:glugglug

See, I feel better now already. Now I can sleep tight.

Well I did sort of shoot all the video and provide the video cam, but let's not get picky there. All is well and we are solid.

:Graucho

If I am on ignore...Why are you reading and replying to my threads?

Indeed, I do enjoy a good spar...Especially with somebody who is dumb enough to keep comming back for more even after they have been beat down and properly owned.

Lou....Do yourself a favor. Get out now before he Rodney sucks you in any further. Look at the facts man. You are one of 2 or 3 people in the entire adult internet who are supporting the guy. That should speak volumes for his character.

Speaking of which...Rodney always did tell me not to mention his name around Ron Levi. I think it's time for me to find out what he was hiding from.

Did you ever stop and ask yourself why Rodney has the time to talk with you, Gregg, or whoever but does not have the time to personally reply to these accusations? He is using you man. Wake up.

Just a note and not to butt in but really you content guys hold the cards for this business.

Seriously next convention get a shooter only gathering or somthing to get on the same page start sharing info more maybe.

Over the years I have been nothing but on the webmaster side and from that perspective time and time again I have always seen the content producers fair well but not as well as the webmasters.

Its a fucked up position for folks with talents such as yours that produce the bottom line making materials people accross the world want to see.

Try not to draw to many lines in the sand.

:(

Toddy,

As a courtesy to Hottiez, I should mention that I sold that site some time ago. All my work is on biglous.com and the vipers can criticize it as they may, as long as the checks roll in.

ANM is a guy, and as is my policy, I will not discuss his rant, except to say that we were equally unimpressed with each other. It was a rough day for everyone.

So I took the time to call Lou back. He seems like a nice guy who is getting into a situation that he has not been made fully aware of.

We each said what we had to say and at the end of the day...He is gonna do what he needs to do...Without using the ToniFreeland website name again, and I am gonna continue my crusade to ensure that Rodney Connor does not fuck more people over.

Lou and I are cool with each other and I wish him well. Oh and Lou...One more thing...Did I mention that you should GET OUT NOW!

For the rest of you...If you see the lying bastard pictured below at any of the shows....Turn and walk the other way before he suckers you into this mess as well.

His name is Tom A.K.A. "Sixpack" and he is Rodney Connors current scapegoat.

http://fubarwebmasters.com/ninasny03/misc/z00002.jpg

As of 11:53 pm PST, via a transcontinental phone conversation, a peace accord has been reached between Aaron and Big Lou, involving the cessation of open hostilities. Prisoner exchanges shall commence immediately.

Do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person?

biglou, you have taken a few shots at me, and I'm going to tell you something, and if you listen to not one more word I say, please hear me out on this one. Then I'll walk away from you and leave you be on this........ first off, please know that I don't go on the attack of ANYONE....... in my 5 years in this business, I can literally count on one hand the number of people I have made any sort of attack on, so I am not about attacking anyone... not my way, hon. IF you see me attacking someone, I am VERY passionate about that attack and it is usually in someone's best interest other than my own.... and this is the case here. I don't feel I have attacked you, b ut I have been a bit harsh with you on some levels.

Here goes..... while I understand your thinking of "well he hasn't worked me over, so I'll deal with him" because TRUST me, I have been there and done that, when I give my loyalty, I give it pretty deep..... but I also still have my morals, and my FIRST and foremost thought has always been my affiliates, no matter WHAT company I work for or what I do, ask any affiliate that has worked with me, THEY are my #1 priority. And if anything is coming down the pipe that could hurt them, I'll go to the ends of the earth trying to make sure they are aware of what is going on... basically they know things as I know them........

Now you have a little insite on me and how I operate, then maybe you can better understand why I did everything I could do for my affiliates, and I say mine, because I recruited a LARGE majority of them on that program for 18 months...... so they were MY PEOPLE.......... I didn't beg them to come to my program, I didn't abuse that in the least, had I done this, I could see you and others being mad at me, but not ONE of them will tell you I said to come and use my program over his....... MY thing was getting them aware of what was going on and that was my concern.

OK... NOW, when it comes to you, you don't have to believe me about any of this, you have made it clear he has done nothing to YOU, but what I am telling you as a HUMAN and concerned fellow webmaster, is this.......... watch your back and watch it VERY close. If you don't want to believe it from me and Aaron, and I know Aaron can be abrasive, but he isn't trying to steer you wrong, he and I have been trying to make it clear that this is a REALLY bad situation and you can't possibly go into business without knowing this.

I have done as I have always given my word I would do, I have protected my affiliates at any and all costs to myself and anyone else....... no I am not perfect, hell I believed his game for 18 months, but we're trying to make sure that no one else is bitten here. You may THINK Rodney is the victim here, but he isn't, HE made the decisions he's made all on his own AS AN ADULT........ and I can't see allowing people to do business with this snake without at LEAST warning them........ and not ONE time have you or will you ever see me say that they should come with me........... they should just get away from HIM....... HE DID THIS!!!!

Let me repeat..... this is NOT something made up and WE didn't do this.... HE DID IT ALL....... we wouldn't have to resort to such tactics if HE had not made decisions HE made. I have WAYYYYY more info that anyone will EVER EVER see on these boards and I'd be happy to share this with you if you are still not convinced.

Prisioners???????????

Hmm... me thinks that this may have something to do with you radically changing your stance on pibcash from the first thread to this one.

Has Rodney delivered some kind of ultimatum to you since your previous statements that made you fear for your partnership?

Abrasive? WTF are you talking about, bitch? :glugglug


Tam...I'm not sure how much Lou wants me to post but there is a contributing factor that you ARE NOT aware of.

Hit me up on ICQ.

so no chance of this hitting 5 pages?

Sure there is. There is always the info about Rodney's new program that can be discussed.

Also..Tom....Sixpack...Sack of shit...Whatever you want to address him as...He is also posting on some boards under the screen name of ezarizona.

Yeah you can..... but I love that about you and you know it..... long as it ain't aimed at ME>..... LMAO

as for the big post there, I was typing while the two of you were I do believe...... :1orglaugh

I am a little more aware NOW, and I still stand by..... don't do it!! It isn't worth it. :(

This shit just cracks me up... If your an employee Rodney slips hundreds in your front pocket and while at the time you think its easy money that pussy-ass thief is getting a hell of a return on that money.... who defends Rodney? ONLY the people getting sucked in to his bullshit and through there wallet. And where is he? Sitting safely behind his desk running the numbers for the day and talking shit on the phone like "I wont stoop to there level and discuss it on the boards".... WRONG!!! he cant RISE to this level because he is a spineless Lensman want to be!!

And the same game applies to the webmasters as well.... hundreds in your front pocket and in return he steals thousands EVERY DAY out of your back pocket..... NONE of you people that still promote PIB have a CLUE what your traffic makes.... you only get 30 to 40% of what it brings... at the very best HALF! Now you imagine that spread out over a few hundred webmasters and you MIGHT get a clue on how much he steals EVERY DAY!!!
And if your cool with a small portion of what you actually make then by all means stick with it!!!

And NOW that Tam is gone he can surround himself with low life fucks like TOM and the fuckers who STAYED once they found out what Rodney was up to...... Fuck em ALL!!! and all who run with him..... I am glad Aarons finally out so I could say that!!!

I can't believe I read this whole thread. Seems there's more under the surface that's still waiting to come to light. We'll see I suppose.

you seem like a good guy, but you are 100% dead fucking wrong. it is traffic and money that hold the cards in this business.

and this is coming from someone who produces nothing but ultra high quality exclusive video with regard to adult paysites.

Since Rodney is the owner of that domains, that is very possible :)


Domain: wildpornbloopers.com

Registrant
Rodney Connor

yeah, I recognize the name . . . just not sure from where

Last time I saw inside that Porn Blooper site, there was one video on it? The rest was filler photo content that was totally unrelated to bloopers. I'd be hella proud of THAT partnership.

(Admittedly, the site was still rather new, only a month old or something, but still, wtf?)

Ya got both hands then:)
I do think that alot of content guys get taken advantage of though, you know that this is not the first time this has happened with content folks going to blows.

Sure it happens, its bound to happen but none the less more pulling together would never hurt.

hehe, cheers to that.

:glugglug

Sixpack turned into a keg.

Stocktrader I owe ya an apology:(

Sorry bout gettin in a bitch with ya over the weekend:(

That made my morning :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Seriously, I don't mind a good argument. 99.9% of what I say on here is fucking around even when I disagree with someone. Apologies if you took anything the wrong way as well. I have no probs with you no matter how much we disagree.

Cheers :glugglug

Unfuckingbelievable.

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:158480125): Wed Mar 10 00:06:28 2004
[00:06] 158480125: Hey man do you really think it nessesary to drag me and Fran into all this?
[00:27] AaronM: Your God damn right I do. You lied to me and you are part of this entire mess. Fuck you, burn in hell.
[00:27] *** 158480125 signed on at Wed Mar 10 00:27:06 2004.
Session Close (158480125): Wed Mar 10 00:27:08 2004


Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:SixPack): Wed Mar 10 00:27:45 2004
[00:27] SixPack: I lied to you?
[00:27] AaronM: I agree.
[00:28] SixPack: what are you reffering to please
[00:28] SixPack: about the toni and drm ?
[00:29] AaronM: What the fuck makes you think I have any need to answer your questions?
[00:30] SixPack: hey you know I have never tried to hurt you or your position in any way
[00:30] SixPack: I had alot of crap dumped on me too
[00:32] AaronM: You fucked up with me. You told me one lie while Rodney told me another. Now you BOTH will lose.
[00:33] SixPack: I never did anything that I was not told to do , so if there was a miss understanding that I understand and my bad
[00:33] AaronM: Fine. So be it. So he told you to rob a bank....Have fun explaining that one to a judge.
[00:34] SixPack: how did I ever do something like that man
[00:35] SixPack: If I did something I was asked to and you where told something else about the same thing without my knowlegde
[00:36] SixPack: I have had alot dumped on me man and I just really wanted to cear the air if possible with you
[00:37] SixPack: If you feel I lied to you then I can only say I am sorry and that I didn't know I was not telling you the truth
[00:37] SixPack: I have never bad mouthed you in any way
[00:40] AaronM: I don't trust you. It's that fucking simple. I don't care about your excuses. There is no fucking way for you to clear the air with me. If you want a clear conscience then quit your job, contact my attorney, and spill the beans....Then come back here and beg for forgiveness. Until then, you can suck a fat dick.

Anything else before I ad you to my block list?

[00:40] SixPack: Hey thats cool man have a good life
[00:41] AaronM: Don't worry...We'll be in touch.
[00:42] SixPack: your beef is with rconn not me
[00:42] AaronM: We'll see about that.

Buh bye

I got bored by second page, so thumbs up for this pic :thumbsup

bro, is there anyway you can begin to distance yourself from all of this, and just build from there?

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

You talkin to me?

absolutely.

I think Aaron could distance himself from it if he so chose to do.... but I really don't think he's the type to get screwed over and just let it go.

If he wanted to distance himself from it, he would have. :winkwink:

aaron? ;)

I think MaskedMan spends far too much time trying to get into Aaron's pants. :glugglug

Wouldn't you?

No need to ask you, but it's worth mentioning for the less experienced.

It's a tricky situation. On one hand I want to simply walk away...On the other hand, I want to shut the mother fucker down and bury him for good so that he does not fuck somebody else over.

I know what you are saying, quiet.....And looking at it simply from a business angle, you are 100% right...BUT.....NOBODY fucks me over like this.

I am moving on with my own things but at the same time I feel the need to fight for what I believe in.

Hellllllllllll yes, he's dead sexy.

OMG

:helpme

i completely understand where you're coming from. maybe i've just been worn down to my pragmatic skin, but i try not to waste energy on those who might have scammed me, anymore. something i posted earlier today:

totally feel for you, and it's a shitty situation. really shitty.

If I might be bold enough to say Aarron.

Alot of things ahead bro.

Play good cards man, ya know the cards that make money:)

Crashin got big day tomarrow.

Stocktrader - I know what line not to cross now, I wont go there again bud. I was outah line on that one. :thumbsup

Good philosophy. My urge to tell it like it is has been a constant source of frustration for me my entire life. In 30 years I have not changed my ways about that so I highly doubt I will be changing it any time soon.

Rodney Connor had a favorite thing he liked to say to me. "If what you do or say does not put money in your pocket then why do or say it at all?" Or something more or less along those lines.

My answer to this now?.....I will lose every last dime I have if I am fighting for what I feel is the right cause.

Karma is a bitch Rodney......Reap the wirlwind. :glugglug

I want to see page 5...Looks like I am not going to bed tonight since I leave for Cancun in less than 3 hours.

well, as always, good luck. i will bump any and all threads that need to be bumped :)

karma is DEFINITELY a bitch. it's also quite beautiful.

I think there is another PIBCash thread that I started the other day that could use a bump. :winkwink:

Thanks for the support. :thumbsup

No he's not wrong.

If you do not have the content to convert the traffic and keep it from charging back you are fucked.

The creation of traffic is important, but few traffic creators exist they are merely traffic redirectors. If all the content on the net disappeared then the surfer would disappear over night. If all the traffic directors disappeared the surfer would still be around.

Did the adult Internet exist before TGPs, Webmasters, etc? Of course it did and it will exist after they are gone. But nothing exists without content. Paysite owners have created there own monster out of the fear of losing out.

You may produce great content and that gives you the problem of generating traffic to feed it. Start producing crap content and see how it works with the same traffic.

popcorn is always so tasty

wrong.

with enough traffic, you can use zmaster content from 1997, and make at least some money.

shooting the highest quality content, with no traffic, will make you exactly zero.

money is the other factor. i produce ultra high quality video with several directors. they bend over backwards for me, not the other way around.

next.