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AMN 03-09-2004 10:57 PM

haha LOSER

Paul Markham 03-09-2004 10:59 PM

One of the things I've learnt in business is not to trust people I do not know. Even a check can be cancelled after you have handed over the goods. This actually happened to me.

So now the rules of doing business is simple, unless I KNOW you are good for the money I'm not lending you money. You pay for the good when you take them or tyou do not take them at all.

The problem with situations like this is so many people on the Adult Internet are willing to trust people they have never met, never likely to meet and have no way of making sure they are straight. It's a conn mans' heaven.

Big Lou, I do not know you but I have this advise for you. Rodneys reputation is doubtful at best, so make sure you get the money when you hand over the goods or keep a copy of everything you shoot and include in the contract that the content remaisn your property until it's paid for. Then if it's not at least you can resell it and get your money back.

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:00 PM

What's this? Another ICQ about big lou....Let's see what this person has to say. :glugglug

Tam 03-09-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Thanks man...But let's not forget the signiture Hot XXX Mail crap at the bottom. If we are gonna post it, we might as well post it all. :thumbsup


http://ampcontent.com/BoardPix/Maskedtv.jpg

BOYYYYYYYY, does that look all too damn familiar, I know because I created that damn thing and had to put it on every damn one of those sites........... good grief. lol

StuartD 03-09-2004 11:03 PM

I'm quite shocked personally.

I thought for sure that www.shavebucks.com would be the name of their new program.

Doctor Dre 03-09-2004 11:07 PM

I hope everybody calls him and give him shit ! I'l do !

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
One of the things I've learnt in business is not to trust people I do not know. Even a check can be cancelled after you have handed over the goods. This actually happened to me.

So now the rules of doing business is simple, unless I KNOW you are good for the money I'm not lending you money. You pay for the good when you take them or tyou do not take them at all.

The problem with situations like this is so many people on the Adult Internet are willing to trust people they have never met, never likely to meet and have no way of making sure they are straight. It's a conn mans' heaven.

Big Lou, I do not know you but I have this advise for you. Rodneys reputation is doubtful at best, so make sure you get the money when you hand over the goods or keep a copy of everything you shoot and include in the contract that the content remaisn your property until it's paid for. Then if it's not at least you can resell it and get your money back.

Good advice. Here's the thing though.....

I had met Rodney Connor. He had been a good client of mine. Once he had established my trust, we entered into our venture. I did cover my ass with a contract...Rodney never signed and returned it, even though I sent it to him 3 seperate times. If he had, we would be in a very different position today.

Oops. Bad move Rodney. But what do I know??? I'm just an idiot right?

An idiot that knows your next move btw......

Since you lied about having J.D. Obenberger under retainer and since J.D. and I have spoken about this case....Me thinks that you are scrambling...ah nevermind......I can't be showing you my full hand at this stage in the game...now can I? :winkwink:

AMN 03-09-2004 11:12 PM

1st off I had a 1 time experience shooting with Big Lou with the idea of spilitting model expenses and shoot time with the models and I must say he was a total wanna be photographer and complete nerd... Hell he couldn?t even shoot with his own camera in a timely manner, I even helped him shoot becuase he couldnt.

But that wasn't even close to the worst part of the whole experience shooting at his apartment, I was horrified to shoot there and having models think I was associated with him. The place was an utter dump. Models that showed up didn't want to shoot with him and wanted to shoot with me because I was professional and not creepy as hell, I mean shit I felt obligated to explained to them upfront this was a shock to myself as well and was a 1 time shared shoot, and did not know the conditions would be like this and I apologized to them and asked that they didn?t hold this experience against me.

I will say I will never work with this guy ever again. I mean fuck, he was fucking so proud of his mr. brain stints on some nickelodeon TV show as being a know it all about cartoons.... WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if PIBCash is going to use this guy for content production man they are scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Paul Markham 03-09-2004 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Good advice. Here's the thing though.....

I had met Rodney Connor. He had been a good client of mine. Once he had established my trust, we entered into our venture. I did cover my ass with a contract...Rodney never signed and returned it, even though I sent it to him 3 seperate times. If he had, we would be in a very different position today.

Oops. Bad move Rodney. But what do I know??? I'm just an idiot right?

An idiot that knows your next move btw......

Since you lied about having J.D. Obenberger under retainer and since J.D. and I have spoken about this case....Me thinks that you are scrambling...ah nevermind......I can't be showing you my full hand at this stage in the game...now can I? :winkwink:

Well if he never signed the contract that would of been warning bells the first time, by the third time it would have been all over.

But it is hard when an existing client goes bad. Do you have a copy of the content?

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by primo DM
another firmly applied bitch slap from the AaronM pimp hand.

amen brutha!

http://ampcontent.com/BoardPix/PimpHand.jpg

stocktrader23 03-09-2004 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMN
1st off I had a 1 time experience shooting with Big Lou with the idea of spilitting model expenses and shoot time with the models and I must say he was a total wanna be photographer and complete nerd... Hell he couldn?t even shoot with his own camera in a timely manner, I even helped him shoot becuase he couldnt.

But that wasn't even close to the worst part of the whole experience shooting at his apartment, I was horrified to shoot there and having models think I was associated with him. The place was an utter dump. Models that showed up didn't want to shoot with him and wanted to shoot with me because I was professional and not creepy as hell, I mean shit I felt obligated to explained to them upfront this was a shock to myself as well and was a 1 time shared shoot, and did not know the conditions would be like this and I apologized to them and asked that they didn?t hold this experience against me.

I will say I will never work with this guy ever again. I mean fuck, he was fucking so proud of his mr. brain stints on some nickelodeon TV show as being a know it all about cartoons.... WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if PIBCash is going to use this guy for content production man they are scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Shooting porn is how a lot of nerds get laid today. :1orglaugh

AMN 03-09-2004 11:17 PM

Dude, he couldnt afford to get laid by a desperate model

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMN
1st off I had a 1 time experience shooting with Big Lou with the idea of spilitting model expenses and shoot time with the models and I must say he was a total wanna be photographer and complete nerd... Hell he couldn?t even shoot with his own camera in a timely manner, I even helped him shoot becuase he couldnt.

But that wasn't even close to the worst part of the whole experience shooting at his apartment, I was horrified to shoot there and having models think I was associated with him. The place was an utter dump. Models that showed up didn't want to shoot with him and wanted to shoot with me because I was professional and not creepy as hell, I mean shit I felt obligated to explained to them upfront this was a shock to myself as well and was a 1 time shared shoot, and did not know the conditions would be like this and I apologized to them and asked that they didn?t hold this experience against me.

I will say I will never work with this guy ever again. I mean fuck, he was fucking so proud of his mr. brain stints on some nickelodeon TV show as being a know it all about cartoons.... WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if PIBCash is going to use this guy for content production man they are scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Interesting read....And thanks for the ICQ, bro. :thumbsup

swedguy 03-09-2004 11:18 PM

He can at least sing :winkwink:

http://www.ggregsnyder.com/

goBigtime 03-09-2004 11:18 PM

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~mteete1/nixon.gif

AMN 03-09-2004 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
He can at least sing :winkwink:

http://www.ggregsnyder.com/

Sad , so sad!

FilthyRob 03-09-2004 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMN
1st off I had a 1 time experience shooting with Big Lou with the idea of spilitting model expenses and shoot time with the models and I must say he was a total wanna be photographer and complete nerd... Hell he couldn?t even shoot with his own camera in a timely manner, I even helped him shoot becuase he couldnt.

But that wasn't even close to the worst part of the whole experience shooting at his apartment, I was horrified to shoot there and having models think I was associated with him. The place was an utter dump. Models that showed up didn't want to shoot with him and wanted to shoot with me because I was professional and not creepy as hell, I mean shit I felt obligated to explained to them upfront this was a shock to myself as well and was a 1 time shared shoot, and did not know the conditions would be like this and I apologized to them and asked that they didn?t hold this experience against me.

I will say I will never work with this guy ever again. I mean fuck, he was fucking so proud of his mr. brain stints on some nickelodeon TV show as being a know it all about cartoons.... WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if PIBCash is going to use this guy for content production man they are scraping the bottom of the barrel!


Sounds pretty familiar, in fact, I shot the video for that and it wouldn't have even happened if I didn't get a model to replace the flake model that didn't even show up.

I wouldn't be pissed off at anything or even the conditions if someone, not gonna say who, didn't even say thanks for the save or for shooting, or for paying for time I didn't get a fair share of.

So all I have to say is good luck. I have known Big Lou for several years and all I can say is he is getting a real rough start, even for GFY. I would be really surprised if his reputation gets wrecked over this crap.

Your only as good as your rep BigLou.

:helpme

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Well if he never signed the contract that would of been warning bells the first time, by the third time it would have been all over.

But it is hard when an existing client goes bad. Do you have a copy of the content?


Paul...You know me. Do you really have to ask that?

I have it all. I have the original tapes, the model releases and ID's, the edited full blown AVI's, and the encoded final product.

All Rodney has is the final encoded stuff and a domain name that is useless since I own the copyright to all of the material.

AMN 03-09-2004 11:22 PM

:ak:

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob



Sounds pretty familiar, in fact, I shot the video for that and it wouldn't have even happened if I didn't get a model to replace the flake model that didn't even show up.

I wouldn't be pissed off at anything or even the conditions if someone, not gonna say who, didn't even say thanks for the save or for shooting, or for paying for time I didn't get a fair share of.

So all I have to say is good luck. I have known Big Lou for several years and all I can say is he is getting a real rough start, even for GFY.

:helpme


Well hello there Rob! It's sure a small world we all live in ain't it? :1orglaugh

How you been man?

swedguy 03-09-2004 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
He can at least sing :winkwink:

http://www.ggregsnyder.com/

I just listened to the mp3s and I withdraw that statement :winkwink:

AMN 03-09-2004 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob



Sounds pretty familiar, in fact, I shot the video for that and it wouldn't have even happened if I didn't get a model to replace the flake model that didn't even show up.

I wouldn't be pissed off at anything or even the conditions if someone, not gonna say who, didn't even say thanks for the save or for shooting, or for paying for time I didn't get a fair share of.

So all I have to say is good luck. I have known Big Lou for several years and all I can say is he is getting a real rough start, even for GFY. I would be really surprised if his reputation gets wrecked over this crap.

Your only as good as your rep BigLou.

:helpme


Ur too dam nice.......

Just call it like you see it!

Steve 03-09-2004 11:25 PM

This BigLou that you guys are talking about.....

This isn't the guy who went by the nickname BigLou Mancuso back on the old (and I mean ooooooollld) Adult Check webmaster boards? Is it?

deleteduser 03-09-2004 11:26 PM

http://bloodrose.hektik.org/botd/owned.jpg

FilthyRob 03-09-2004 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM



Well hello there Rob! It's sure a small world we all live in ain't it? :1orglaugh

How you been man?

Been good. Working way too much on my dayjob and falling way the fuck behind on my night job.... lol

Hope that chick Destiny worked out for you, she owes me big time for pimping her ass that night in vegas bro.

:1orglaugh

FilthyRob 03-09-2004 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
This BigLou that you guys are talking about.....

This isn't the guy who went by the nickname BigLou Mancuso back on the old (and I mean ooooooollld) Adult Check webmaster boards? Is it?

We have a bingo

DirtyDanza 03-09-2004 11:32 PM

big lou is a jackoff...

Steve 03-09-2004 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob


We have a bingo

ah damn - that guy was cool as all hell back in the day
talk about a good guy.........

man, what is he doing hooking up with R Connor?

FilthyRob 03-09-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve


ah damn - that guy was cool as all hell back in the day
talk about a good guy.........

man, what is he doing hooking up with R Connor?

I bet there are a shit load of Old School AVS'ers that just lost their fucking minds loosing Adult Check Gold sites huh??

I never had a single Gold site, but I had almost 400 active regular sites. I know 400 isn't shit compared, but I made better then the standard template traffic portal sites too. I mean, I make TGP galleries these days that could pass for regular AVS sites anytime.

:2 cents:

Steve 03-09-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS
big lou is a jackoff...
dude, what the fuck?
I dont remember you being around back then. All I see you do is act like a fucking jack off.

Dont you need to push some content nobody wants?

I remember BigLou as one of the guys going out of his way to show people the ropes - that guy put a LOT of cash in my pocket when I was totally fucking green. There were no newbie help boards - newbies were meat for the grinder.

biglou 03-09-2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob

So all I have to say is good luck. I have known Big Lou for several years and all I can say is he is getting a real rough start, even for GFY. I would be really surprised if his reputation gets wrecked over this crap.

Your only as good as your rep BigLou.

:helpme

What you fail to mention is that we have been friends for a long time and I really expected better from you. I don't know keev as well, so I can't say if I'm surprised or not by his comments. Perchance the viperous atmosphere has gotten the best of the both of you. Regardless, I will not air my dirty laundry in this forum. That's between us. Personally, I think you just want your dildos back.

arial 03-09-2004 11:40 PM

http://www.uqg2k.com/images/owned.jpg

Steve 03-09-2004 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob


I bet there are a shit load of Old School AVS'ers that just lost their fucking minds loosing Adult Check Gold sites huh??

I never had a single Gold site, but I had almost 400 active regular sites. I know 400 isn't shit compared, but I made better then the standard template traffic portal sites too. I mean, I make TGP galleries these days that could pass for regular AVS sites anytime.

:2 cents:

From what I hear, some of the guys still with Adult Check aren't all that happy, either.

Yeah, changing business models and all - but there is still good money to be made in AVS. It is not the same as the old days, but you can still cash in.

Thing that's weirding me out was I always though BigLou retired, moved on to other interests. So hearing that he's doing shoots is a surprise.

DirtyDanza 03-09-2004 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve


dude, what the fuck?
I dont remember you being around back then. All I see you do is act like a fucking jack off.

Dont you need to push some content nobody wants?

I remember BigLou as one of the guys going out of his way to show people the ropes - that guy put a LOT of cash in my pocket when I was totally fucking green. There were no newbie help boards - newbies were meat for the grinder.


no one wants my content huh? well someone did... in fact alot of people did cause they know good content... look at big lou's content... it's got "he's a jackoff all over it" I mean really have you ever seen his stuff... paying girls like tripple the rate for a fucking girl girl scene.... you've got o be joking me.... BTW what do you shoot? have you ever even held a camera?

Brujah 03-09-2004 11:45 PM

I remember BigLou from way way back and like Steve said, he was a straight-up guy with a solid reputation. Helped set many people up with making decent income, and good advice on making more cash. Sounds like he might be partnering up with a shady mofo, but since when did that matter to anyone at GFY ?

baddog 03-09-2004 11:48 PM

guess I picked the wrong time to go out to the Kings game . . . . missed my op at a first page sig spot

hottoddy 03-09-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve


dude, what the fuck?
I dont remember you being around back then. All I see you do is act like a fucking jack off.

Dont you need to push some content nobody wants?

I remember BigLou as one of the guys going out of his way to show people the ropes - that guy put a LOT of cash in my pocket when I was totally fucking green. There were no newbie help boards - newbies were meat for the grinder.

I don't give a shit about today's drama one way or the other, but I also remember BigLou from the old days. He was always posting helpful stuff on the boards. Several years ago I met him at Internext, and he seemed like a very decent guy.

AaronM 03-09-2004 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
I remember BigLou from way way back and like Steve said, he was a straight-up guy with a solid reputation. Helped set many people up with making decent income, and good advice on making more cash. Sounds like he might be partnering up with a shady mofo, but since when did that matter to anyone at GFY ?
It's Lou's problem if he chooses to do business with Rodney Connor after everything that has come out in the last 2 years.

My beef with him is that he came at me on the boards first and is using my site to recruit girls. Potential models will look at his ad and assume that he produced the ToniFreeland site. It's misleading at best.

FilthyRob 03-10-2004 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biglou


What you fail to mention is that we have been friends for a long time and I really expected better from you. I don't know keev as well, so I can't say if I'm surprised or not by his comments. Perchance the viperous atmosphere has gotten the best of the both of you. Regardless, I will not air my dirty laundry in this forum. That's between us. Personally, I think you just want your dildos back.

I did mention that I have known you for a long time didn't I? I didn't think it was dirty laundry at all. And you should know from your first time posting here that it's a rough playground. I think my posts in this thread where the least cruel and spoke nothing except to the fact that I never got a thank you that I can recall.

And yes, I do want my dildos back, but if they help you with your shoots and what not, they are yours as a gift. Besides, I have about 200 pounds of sextoys that I lug around already.

I light the piece pipe and pass it to you.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-10-2004 12:03 AM

And yes, I do want my dildos back.

Fucken A man!

hottoddy 03-10-2004 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMN
Dude, he couldnt afford to get laid by a desperate model
Which one are you on here?

AaronM 03-10-2004 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottoddy


Which one are you on here?


None of them. AMN is a guy.


This thread needs to hit page 4 soon. :glugglug

baddog 03-10-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM





This thread needs to hit page 4 soon. :glugglug

can I help?

wdsguy 03-10-2004 12:10 AM

OWNED

biglou 03-10-2004 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


It's Lou's problem if he chooses to do business with Rodney Connor after everything that has come out in the last 2 years.

My beef with him is that he came at me on the boards first and is using my site to recruit girls. Potential models will look at his ad and assume that he produced the ToniFreeland site. It's misleading at best.

If that's your only problem, then maybe we don't have a problem, since 1.) I've never met Rodney Connor. When we do meet, I shall judge for myself without influence from what is said on this board. 2.) I have had only 3 calls from that ad (and for one of them, I had to say, "excuse me, sir, but an actRESS is what I was looking for.") and the reason I careful chose the word "promoter" and not "producer" was precisely to avoid taking credit for the content. I used the word "successful" because it's a much better adjective than "unsuccessful." I am not privy to the financial details of PIBcash. I would also like it known that the ad was placed one day before you placed your anti-PIB rant. Since you took the trouble to call me, you also know that I mentioned you by name as the shooter of the content. It may have been a mistake to mention Toni Freeland, but as I said, it was placed before I knew of the bad blood between you and PIB.

As far as my "coming at you" on the boards, I'm kind of surprised at the comment. I got the impression you enjoyed a good spar. I backed off and placed you on ignore because I don't appreciate the level at which you operate.

FilthyRob 03-10-2004 12:11 AM

Why did I bother posting in this thread? I have a server down and need to get that shit up and running before I go out of the biz.

:helpme

StuartD 03-10-2004 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

None of them. AMN is a guy.

This thread needs to hit page 4 soon. :glugglug

This thread needs more boobs.

Sure, biglou and Rodney are two big ones, but I need more.

biglou 03-10-2004 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob

I think my posts in this thread where the least cruel and spoke nothing except to the fact that I never got a thank you that I can recall.

Then let me publicly say thank you for procuring the model Alexis Duval for the photo shoot on that day in November. And let us make a note never to book a model from World without meeting her first to do a flake check.

hottoddy 03-10-2004 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

None of them. AMN is a guy.

:1orglaugh I totally read his post wrong. I thought he was a one-time model doing a revshare thing, not a one-time photog sharing expenses.

StuartD 03-10-2004 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biglou
... I don't appreciate the level at which you operate.
That's funny, no one appreciates the way pibcash operates either... I guess that's why everyone put you guys on ignore too :glugglug


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