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rett11 · 03-12-2004, 01:38 PM

I've got 2 brothers-in-law that are identical twins...raised in the same house, never molested. One is and has always been clearly gay, the other is and has always been clearly straight. No choosing going on.

Centurion · 03-12-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by BloodFart

If your playing with a cock, your a flamer, just cuz the cock isnt 18, doesnt mean it's not officially a cock, your still a puffer.

The fag preists alone tapping alter boy ass makes this shit unwinnable for you.. what was it.. 1 in 25 preists.. oh wait, those boys wernt 18, technically they cant have cocks till 18.. the preists are hetrosexual.

Sorry if you can't deal with the established CLINICAL definition of what categories child molestors fit into. This is the same SCIENCE that so many are claiming prove gays are more likely to abuse children than hets. (Think about priests for a sec..yes, some of them ARE homosexual..and SOME of them are STRAIGHT. I don't know the breakdown of the sexual orientation of priests..but you can't say that every act of pedophila committed by a priest was done by a HOMOSEXUAL priest. The fact is that boys unfortunately are more "aviailable" and easily manipulated by priests in that environment than girls are. And when you are so highly sexually frustrated as a priest..they're supposed to be celibate..remember..they WILL act upon their sexual impulse with the most "handy" person/child available..and unfortunately that is mostly boys.)

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 01:42 PM

the argument with Bloodfart is unwinnable, because he thinks that being gay is wrong and unnatural, and we aren't gonna change his mind.

Centurion · 03-12-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by BloodFart

So then that argument can be replaced with pedophiles, they're born that way.. i guess it's ok for them to run around fucking underage kids then.

Better not say no, just cause they're different from you.

Oh come on..that's so lame. I'm not saying, and I don't think ANYONE in this thread is saying it's ok for pedophiles to abuse kids! Ridiculous!

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by rett11
I've got 2 brothers-in-law that are identical twins...raised in the same house, never molested. One is and has always been clearly gay, the other is and has always been clearly straight. No choosing going on.

Ahh ha, that proves it, and it is beyond the realm of possibility that the gay one was molested and hid the fact. Most people will never admit to being molested because they see it as something they did wrong so they try to hide it.

If you asked how big my dick was, i could say 14 inches, doesnt mean it's the truth.

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 01:49 PM

that's the best you can do? come on...

Basic_man · 03-12-2004, 01:50 PM

No! They are gay !

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

Oh come on..that's so lame. I'm not saying, and I don't think ANYONE in this thread is saying it's ok for pedophiles to abuse kids! Ridiculous!

Well why the fuck not? They were born that way.. it's natural to them, it's inhumane to discriminate against them, they're people too, lets see.. what else... studys show monkys have sex with other underage monkeys too, that means it's genetic.. not learned.. blah blah blah.. monkeys also fling shit at each other for entertainment.

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by rett11
that's the best you can do? come on...

Ok, i'll leave your imaginary brothers out of it, get back to your defending pedo's, convince me why it's ok.

alexg · 03-12-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
Yes. It's straight people that shouldn't have the right to get married. Straight people have ruined the world.

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 01:57 PM

I never defended pedos, idiot. My brothers-in-law are real.l And the fact that you are comparing being gay to being a pedo is making me sick. It's ok to be born gay...you're hurting no one...that's just the fucking way you are. If you are born a pedo, as you say, it is not ok... Your fear is amazing.

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by rett11
I never defended pedos, idiot. My brothers-in-law are real.l And the fact that you are comparing being gay to being a pedo is making me sick. It's ok to be born gay...you're hurting no one...that's just the fucking way you are. If you are born a pedo, as you say, it is not ok... Your fear is amazing.

If

it's "ok" to be gay, it's ok to be pedo then.. it's genetic after all.

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 02:01 PM

no one's making that argument. being gay hurts no one...except for you and your fragile sense of your own sexuality.

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 02:02 PM

the main thing that pisses me off is that I'm wasting time arguing with pissant named Bloodfart who probably lives with his mommy. out.

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 02:08 PM

Yeah, like this is my brightest moment, arguing with a fucker defending pedophiles.

bling_machine · 03-12-2004, 02:08 PM

I'm OK with gay marriage. It used to be illegal for mixed races to marry. Same old shit.

EZRhino · 03-12-2004, 02:09 PM

Getting a Marriage License is not a right it?s a privilege. I rather see legislation go through congress to extend the privilege before laws are broken.

jas1552 · 03-12-2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

The religous right spin continues: Gay men & Lesbian women are NOT born that way, they either are FORCED to become that way or CHOOSE to become gay.

So, if we follow your logic, then STRAIGHT men and women are produced the same way.

You just do not want to believe that gay men and women (who come from NON molested homes..the great majority) are born that way and do not CHOOSE to be that way do you? You just cannot handle anyone being "different" from you or the way you view life and must search desperately to find some sort of "evidence" that these people can change their orientation if they want to. Sad..so sad you have such a closed mind.

I'm not religious at all. I said I wonder about percentages. I don't claim to know. You seem to think you know all gays are born that way and won't consider any other posibility. That's closed minded.

jas1552 · 03-12-2004, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
I think it is closer to 12% or more. (that includes BI-SEXUALS as well)

That's just ridiculous.

jas1552 · 03-12-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
So, if we follow your logic, then STRAIGHT men and women are produced the same way.

Heterosexuality is the natural condition of humanity. Homosexuality is an abnormality. I was simply wondering how this abnormality occurs. Maybe some or all are born that way or maybe most become that way for some unknown reason. I don't claim to know.

jas1552 · 03-12-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by rett11
I've got 2 brothers-in-law that are identical twins...raised in the same house, never molested. One is and has always been clearly gay, the other is and has always been clearly straight. No choosing going on.

So they are genetically identical yet one is gay and the other is not? This is anecdotal evidence of course but leads me to the opposite conclusion you're drawing. Obviously, in this case at least, the cause is not genetic. Lessening the chance that he was born that way. Then again there could be some difference in their development in the womb. Interesting.

REßEL · 03-12-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

So you will not believe studies by the New York Times or statistics cited by organizations or estimated by experts in the field?

Poor me, what to do?

I know, if the US government tells you that you are owned, you would believe it, right? I have a feeling your defense might be, "a government lead by Bush is a good source. NOT. Huh-huh." but let's give it a try any way.

U.S. Dpt of Health & Human Services / ACF survey, http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/news/press/1996/nis.htm
Direct quote: "Girls are sexually abused three times more often than boys"

This means that around 33% of all child sexual abuse victims are BOYS. That's consistent with many of the previously posted statistics and estimations.

It is also consistent with information from PCAR (Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape) which can be located here: http://www.pcar.org/about_sa/faqs_sa.html
Direct quote: "25-35% of child sexual abuse victims are males"

DC Rape Crisis Center also says this (http://www.dcrcc.org/male-survivors.htm).

I can go on and on about sources stating that roughly around one third of all pedophile victims are boys, but seeing as you don't believe it unless the source is the government or a gay activist organization, there's no point in wasting more time on that.

So what have we learned thus far? Around 33% of all pedophile victims are BOYS.

And you know what else? Practically ALL pedophiles are male. That goes without saying.

Now let's decide what percentage of the population at large is gay. The serious studies and statistics I have seen shows anywhere from 1 to 5%, but gay activist organizations sometimes claim figures all the way up to 8, 9, and even 10%. Let's compromise and say that the average gay population at large lies around 6%.

So...

- Homosexuality, found in around 6% of the population, is "responsible" for around 33% of the pedophile victims.
- Heterosexuality, found in around 94% of the population, is "responsible" for around 66% of the pedophile victims.

That's vastly disproportionate by GOOD margins. It must suck to have gay pride over this issue, and I pity you for it.

Also, if you for some mysterious reason still haven't had enough, explain why there are Man-Boy love associations such as NAMBLA, and no Man-Girl love associations. The many pro-pedophilia statements by gay activist organizations and leaders are also interesting in this regard. I'm not saying that all gays are anything, but you wanted evidence of homosexuality being more receptive to pedophilia, so I give it to you.

Actually you're more wrong than you know. Paedophiles by definition are attracted to CHILDREN, not attracted to men, not attracted to women, they are in fact paedosexuals, not homosexuals or hetrosexuals. And if you'd read any real studies you would also know that most paeds don't care about the sex of the child, the fact that it's a child is enough.

But I guess you'll class them as bi now?

REßEL · 03-12-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by BloodFart
monkeys also fling shit at each other for entertainment.

LOL! Err so do we (this board is full of it)

Repetitive Monkey · 03-12-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Straight men prey on boys too! They're NOT homosexual men

I know you aren't intending to humor me, but GOD DAMN. That gave me a laugh.

If you are sexually attracted to the same gender you ARE gay, no matter what age you partner is.

If you are a straight male, you are not attracted to penises and assholes. If you are, you aren't straight. Get it?

pimplink · 03-12-2004, 05:30 PM

If they love each other, why not?

Centurion · 03-12-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by jas1552

Heterosexuality is the natural condition of humanity. Homosexuality is an abnormality. I was simply wondering how this abnormality occurs. Maybe some or all are born that way or maybe most become that way for some unknown reason. I don't claim to know.

And why do you say that is the "natural condition"?
The vast majority of people are right handed..yet we don't call left handed people "abnormal". They were born that way, just as those were born with blue eyes, or brown hair. The same goes for gay men and women.

foreverjason · 03-12-2004, 06:23 PM

Stop worrying about the gays and worry about the American debt. 10 trillion bucks is going to fuck your country up.

Centurion · 03-12-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

I know you aren't intending to humor me, but GOD DAMN. That gave me a laugh.

If you are sexually attracted to the same gender you ARE gay, no matter what age you partner is.

If you are a straight male, you are not attracted to penises and assholes. If you are, you aren't straight. Get it?

Ok clueless..one more time, especially for you and other SLOW on the uptake posters that may agree with you:

Those who molest children are DRAWN to children of either sex!
Men who molest boys are not necessarily "gay" men in that they are also attracted to adult men!

And as Rebel ALSO posted above:

"Paedophiles by definition are attracted to CHILDREN, not attracted to men, not attracted to women, they are in fact paedosexuals, not homosexuals or hetrosexuals. And if you'd read any real studies you would also know that most paeds don't care about the sex of the child, the fact that it's a child is enough."

Take time to study up on the scientific and biological aspects of pedophilia!

bhutocracy · 03-12-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

U.S. Dpt of Health & Human Services / ACF survey, http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/news/press/1996/nis.htm
Direct quote: "Girls are sexually abused three times more often than boys"

This means that around 33% of all child sexual abuse victims are BOYS. That's consistent with many of the previously posted statistics and estimations.

uh oh.. bad math. if girls are abused three times more often it means 25% of victims are boys. 75 = 3x 25

then you have to subtract the amount of sexual abuse that comes from adult females to young boys (not high.. but still significant)

bhutocracy · 03-12-2004, 06:41 PM

I want WAAAAYYYY more gay men int he world.. they should double their numbers...

WAAAAYYYYY more girls for the rest of us

Repetitive Monkey · 03-12-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

Ok clueless..one more time, especially for you and other SLOW on the uptake posters that may agree with you:

Those who molest children are DRAWN to children of either sex!
Men who molest boys are not necessarily "gay" men in that they are also attracted to adult men!

And as Rebel ALSO posted above:

"Paedophiles by definition are attracted to CHILDREN, not attracted to men, not attracted to women, they are in fact paedosexuals, not homosexuals or hetrosexuals. And if you'd read any real studies you would also know that most paeds don't care about the sex of the child, the fact that it's a child is enough."

Take time to study up on the scientific and biological aspects of pedophilia!

So you feel that males who molest boys aren't pedophiles of the homosexual persuasion, but rather just pedophile. How CONVENIENT for homosexuals at this time. Would you still feel the same if you thought heterosexuals were the ones with the absurdly high over-representation though? I have a feeling you wouldn't. Actually, I know you wouldn't. And I am going to prove it with your own statements.

Because may I remind you that you admitted on several occasions to the premise that pedophiles do have sexual preferences just like other people, when you erroneously thought that heterosexuals had higher rates than homosexuals? You even said it in plain words. Look:

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Originally posted by Centurion
Except, that the incidence of pedophila is PRIMARILY heterosexual by a HUGE margin.

So there you have it! Pedophiles are still heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual, and you admitted it when you thought heterosexuals statistically were the worst, you hypocrite!

You are too dumb to realize when you are owned and are in a situation where most people excuse their earlier errors and move on in order to preserve some honor. It's pitiful, but entertaining at the same time.

Also, if you are going to keep this up, try responding to posts in a more accurate fastion instead of lying and worming away from facts and even your own statements.

Repetitive Monkey · 03-12-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

uh oh.. bad math. if girls are abused three times more often it means 25% of victims are boys. 75 = 3x 25

then you have to subtract the amount of sexual abuse that comes from adult females to young boys (not high.. but still significant)

I stand corrected, but that was just one figure out of all the ones stating around 30%.

And I want to add that even if the real figure were as low as 25%, it would still be drastically disproportionate because of the relatively low gay population.

vegas2003 · 03-12-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jimbo#1
Personally I don't see a problem with it. I see it as none of my business if they do or don't!

of course they should-if they want to be as miserable as straight people, it's their right to do so

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
I want WAAAAYYYY more gay men int he world.. they should double their numbers...

WAAAAYYYYY more girls for the rest of us

Should speed up the aids cycle too. good idea.

bhutocracy · 03-12-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

No, it is you who are using bad math.

"Girls are sexually abused three times more often than boys"
This means that for EVERY BOY, there is THREE GIRLS.

BOY
GIRL GIRL GIRL

Therefore: 33,333...... percent out of the 100%.

9 is also THREE TIMES as big as 3. Get the idea?

nope you still don't understand.. BOYS make up 33% of the GIRLS total not the TOTAL SUM of abuses lol. Yes 9 is 3 times as big as 3.. 3 is also STILL ONLY 25% of 12

Repetitive Monkey · 03-12-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

nope you still don't understand.. BOYS make up 33% of the GIRLS total not the TOTAL SUM of abuses lol. Yes 9 is 3 times as big as 3.. 3 is also STILL ONLY 25% of 12

I replied too quickly, and edited it to "I stand corrected" right after posting it. What can I say, I am tired.

bhutocracy · 03-12-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

I replied too quickly, and edited it to "I stand corrected" right after posting it. What can I say, I am tired.

hehe

it's np.. 25% is still disproportionate to the 5% it would be interesting to know why that is, doesn't detract from your argument.. i just like stats. I'd also like to know how many of those abuses were from women.. although it seems rare it's probably more common than we think.

jas1552 · 03-12-2004, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

And why do you say that is the "natural condition"?
The vast majority of people are right handed..yet we don't call left handed people "abnormal". They were born that way, just as those were born with blue eyes, or brown hair. The same goes for gay men and women.

Heterosexuality is necessary for the survival of the human species, while homosexuality serves no purpose that I'm aware of. Right handedness also isn't necessary. In a way left handed people are abnormal as they are not the norm.
How do you know gays are born gay? Do you think 100% are born that way? If so, how do you know?

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by jas1552

Heterosexuality is necessary for the survival of the human species, while homosexuality serves no purpose that I'm aware of.

Homosexuals can be used for medical testing and crash test dummys. They're not completely useless.

Centurion · 03-12-2004, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

You are too dumb to realize when you are owned and are in a situation where most people excuse their earlier errors and move on in order to preserve some honor. It's pitiful, but entertaining at the same time.

Also, if you are going to keep this up, try responding to posts in a more accurate fastion instead of lying and worming away from facts and even your own statements.

Congrats..I think you are now the DUMBEST guy I've "met" on gfy in regards to sexuality.

It is not my opinion, it is the opinion of the medical & scientific community about the nature of pedophilia. I'm sooo sorry you can not understand that!

So dood *YOU* have ALREADY been owned by the VAST majority of the scientific community!

jasonir · 03-12-2004, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

Really? I have yet to meet someone who is afraid of gays. Just where do these chickenshits of all chickenshits live? Because as you are perfectly well aware of, disapproval and not understanding how burying a part of your body in feces possibly can be sexually arousing is not fear/phobia.

That term is thrown around all the time, and I have to say that you think too highly of yourselves.

Also, since you encourage unpleasantries, let me ask you why a disproportionate amount of pedophiles also are bi/homosexual? Try to deny it or even imply that it isn't true and I will happily waste five minutes of my life digging up statistics to own you with.

HINT: All gay guys don't do anal.

Many gay guys douche.

I don't think you have the right to post your opinions on something you haven't exhaustively investigated.

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rett11 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 397	I never defended pedos, idiot. My brothers-in-law are real.l And the fact that you are comparing being gay to being a pedo is making me sick. It's ok to be born gay...you're hurting no one...that's just the fucking way you are. If you are born a pedo, as you say, it is not ok... Your fear is amazing. __________________ PussyCash pays $100 for every ImLive signup

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