50c a post makes newbies happy.

There are some clear examples on this board that money does not equal happiness.

I can think of one guy who recently has been trumpeting how much money he has but he has to be the most miserable idiot I have seen in a long time.

He sees it too but he can't admit it because it would be an admission of failure.

And to admit failure would be to lose face.

What evil does not have money as its root?

care to elaborate?

:glugglug

yep :thumbsup

Money takes away a lot of the pressures of life and lets you enjoy the little things more.

If you're rich, you don't have to worry about getting up and going to work to earn 7$/h.

You can make plans and have fun with the people you love.

quiet do you have a significant other?

why? the answer is no. but i'm very happy regardless.

I do not have a significant other either...by choice...and I am quite happy with that decision.

quiet
"ownmostness"

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next post is 17K congrats and :glugglug

nice on the 17k.

aside from your financial success, what else do you have that gives you you're happiness? whether it be physical or not.

Man can be evil ... money is an inanimate object

You can say that evil is a byproduct of the pursuit for money BUT that has MORE to do with the man pursuing ... the factors of WHY money is being pursued is the root NOT money itself.

how's that?

LOL

happiness = 1) Love, 2) Health, 3) Money:2 cents:

Makes sense to me.

so true, u need a lot more than money to keep ya happy :thumbsup

True happiness has nothing to do with money. Happiness is peace of mind and loving life.

lol no good.. nice dance around the question though :winkwink:

What evil does not have money as its root?

I'll admit that it probably is not the root of ALL evil 100% of the time. I'd say 99% of the time money can be blamed for evil things. :)

it's not getting what you want, it's wanting what you've got.

Money = Tool

Its an instrument.

LOL

Ok, then your statement proves my original point that "money is not the root of ALL evil!"

:winkwink:

:1orglaugh Damnit. I knew that was coming.


Anyway... for as inanimate as money is, there sure are a lot of bad baaaaaad things that happen in its name :winkwink:

Interesting, I found it to be the opposite. Most people I know with money are very impatient and demanding. The more they have, the more they go in that direction and it tends to ruin relationships.

I guess you need to expand on which level of happiness.

It does make most people happy in the respect of more freedom, fun stuff and choices. But beyond that, its questionable if it makes a big difference or like I said prior, makes your relationships even harder.

But could you imagine how much harder those relationships would be WITHOUT the money?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

i agree to 90% of what has been said
people should always remember that money does not always make everything easier
in fact it makes a lot of stuff way more difficult

no argument there

:thumbsup

Like what?

Awesome. I win.

Now for my victory lap.....



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Honestly, they're a lot easier. Money makes relationshps very complicated, because in the back of your mind you question everyone's sincerity and motives.

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"some" family and friends think you owe them something

or expect you to pay for everything

or expect you to invest in their crazy ideas

or become resentful because they don't have any

Are they easier (in the pennyless fantasy) because those types of relationships wouldn't exist?

If so, then that doesn't really count.

I mean if they weren't sincere or they had ulterior motives based on the fact that you had crazy amounts of money...

err what am I debating about again? I'm tired and I lost my place. :1orglaugh

Yes, that's the best way to put money. To be truely happy you need people you feel special with. You also need health :)

hmm, i'm simply saying that i've found those not rich, tend to say money does not buy happiness. and in particular, i was responding to:

people with less seem to appreciate what they have more than those with more. family, friends, etc. just my biased opinion.

and also plays into exactly what i've been saying in this thread.

Its 5AM and I'm hitting the bed and can't think straight either.

I was about to write something and now I forgot. Goodnight.

:1orglaugh

I disagree.The lack of money might contribute to your unhappiness, but it's not the cause. I've been rich and happy, poor and happy, rich and unhappy, poor and unhappy. In fact some of the unhappiest people I know are pretty damned rich.

Basically it comes down to your personality.

I kind of think of it like a normal distribution curve. If you're a depressive kind of person before the money, the money might shift you a bit closer towards the average, but your core personality isn't going to undergo a wholesale change.

no doubt, and so have i.

Yes that is true money is only a tool how you use it is up to you.

However, you can not discount the point that money = freedom.

If you know the true value of money, you will understand freedom, freedom is its greatest gift.

Alot of people arent happy when they have made tons of money because along the way they have been fucks to people and have made themselves into thinking they are a "somebody"

You want happiness, become a millionaire, be a smart open person, than smoke a joint.

:2 cents: :thumbsup

Only because they have to

Without money, they have shit else to do. :helpme

possibly.

yet like i've said previously in this thread, the best days of my entire life were when i was a broke-as-shit university student.

Good thread Quiet:)

I see money as instrument and the problems that come with it is from the lack of controlling its use or having the wisdom to use it properly.
Proper use of money is highly debatable subject.

Its more of the fact that if your poor but you have enough. You arent having to worry about money. When you have to worry about money it becomes harder to be happy because when you worry you become stressed.

Maybe a personality thing, maybe situational.

Better than the day you purchased or picked up the Porsche or took first step in your house on the slopes?

I'm sure those days meant and represented a lot to you as well.

They are different types of "best days" though I guess.... they should be relabeled as "best days for my income bracket"

Another thing... I'm sure a much higher concentration of your "worst days" happened around the periods of time that you were broke-as-shit too.

When you have everything it can become easy to forget what it is like to struggle. Its like the law of diminishing returns, the more time you have tons of money the more you have no worries in your life the less you have to struggle.

Thats why I stay in school (college), the preceived illusion of struggling (getting good grades) keeps you sharp.

Come on you all should realize you can get lazy when you have millions coming in a year....

Bottom line --

Throughout the years...

I've been flat ass broke,

I've had enough money to get by,

and I've had considerable amounts of surplus money


Guess which brought the most happiness? :winkwink:

Ben Afleck Boiler Room

"Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil doesn't fucking have any. They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby."
http://www.smutstash.com/boilerroom2.021600.jpg

Yo and that wasn't even in the script. That was like Ben improvising right there :glugglug

He should know :)

when i say, "the best days of my life" i'm talking in absolute terms.

the porsche is wonderful, so is the slopeside living. these are things that were goals for most of my life. regardless, university was easily the best period of my life. and of course, i love money - if i didn't i'd never be in this biz. in fact, money is the only reason i'm in adult internet. go figure :)

Sorry - I don't agree with you there.

Six years ago my first wife and I had a house, great pension plans, positions of some importance in the town where we lived and a combined income of in excess of $80k and we each worked less than 40 hours a week

She was never happy - she never had enough - we often argued over money matters.

We subsequently divorced.

I'm married again - since November we have gone through some very rough times due to ill health - our income level dropped significantly - we own very little - we have no pension plans - we are nobodies and we each work at least 70 hours a week

We have never been happier.

Good lasting relationships are not about money.

I guess I would say the year I took off before university was my best.. But then again I only really remember the good times. I think it's human nature to be nostalgic for times gone by.