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Old 03-07-2004, 06:13 AM   #1
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:stoned Ok Mr. honest guy, what about that: Shave detector v1.0

1. I said they will gladly show you their "now modified" admin

2. I said shaving still continues under the hood, even the live admin section proves nothing

3. I said if you want to be sure you need to look under the hood. Of course I know any screen caps or logs don't prove anything.

Dear "HONEST" and "TRANSPARENT" sponsors,

I've put considerable amount of money where my mouth is and get that programmed,
Official MPA2 Shave detector v1.0

mpa2 sponsor can place that to their server and edit the config.php to point their mpa MySQL database server. After that any affiliate can check his sales by using their mpa2 username and password.

Main file is protected to prevent cheats. And no, there is no Trojan or something to fuck your server in that, if you wish you can safely test that on any dummy server and It's easy to verify that with any packet capture software, so don't try to hide behind that. Also, I wouldn't attempt to fake the program, because it has a validate option. You may enter any string to get a hash of it and that hash should be same everywhere, if the script is original of course.

That's enough, I've lost too much time and money for that s..t

Oh btw, validate hash of "honest sponsor" is 88693a259ec7e5fe01c8f6fd3c04f227

I'm not some one they know; I'm just a really pissed affiliate

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Old 03-07-2004, 06:17 AM   #2
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This should be interesting. Who is gonna be the first sponsor to
put themselves up to scrutiny?

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Old 03-07-2004, 06:19 AM   #3
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none will agree to use it
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:20 AM   #4
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i love to see some reactions from sponsors
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:23 AM   #5
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:28 AM   #6
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I agree with JayJay, they already offer stats for affiliates that they promote as accurate
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:29 AM   #7
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what makes your program "official"

id like to see some results anyway. id prefer to be honestly paid $20 per sign up than to be paid $35 and get shaved
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:54 AM   #8
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i dont think any sponsor will want to use it

as for MPA2 - are sponsors still uising it or are they all fleeing from it now after all the "shave feature" screen shots??
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:03 AM   #9
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:04 AM   #10
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someone more established should have posted that.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:10 AM   #11
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Interesesting idea but the risks of the sponsor actually submitting to the test would be to great.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:19 AM   #12
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I will gladly submit to any 'shave' test that someone wants to give. Test away!
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:23 AM   #13
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And here I thought they were going to discuss ways to tell if a pussy needed shaving.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:50 AM   #14
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what sort of tests have you run in a live environment to see it won't fuck things up? I've had enough time and trouble just getting the frikkin program to work without adding another link in the chain..
will it be able to recognise mpa2's bugs or an incomplete install vs actual shave?
how do I know it's not also stealing program figures and and details as well as good affiliates?

you need trusted third party assessment of your software from someone we all know and trust here. Once someone I trust has gone over it (maybe i'll get one of the inhouse guys to look at it here) I'll give it a whirl - thats the benefit of being honest.. I don't give a fuck about being "caught out" cause it 'aint going to happen, I just don't want someone stealing info or an incomplete intstall or mpa2 bug (eg. we didn't know cheque signups weren't working for about a month after we launched because we were told the install had been finished but it wasn't) looking like something it isn't.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:55 AM   #15
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what sort of tests have you run in a live environment to see it won't fuck things up? I've had enough time and trouble just getting the frikkin program to work without adding another link in the chain..
will it be able to recognise mpa2's bugs or an incomplete install vs actual shave?
how do I know it's not also stealing program figures and and details as well as good affiliates?

you need trusted third party assessment of your software from someone we all know and trust here. Once someone I trust has gone over it (maybe i'll get one of the inhouse guys to look at it here) I'll give it a whirl - thats the benefit of being honest.. I don't give a fuck about being "caught out" cause it 'aint going to happen, I just don't want someone stealing info or an incomplete intstall or mpa2 bug (eg. we didn't know cheque signups weren't working for about a month after we launched because we were told the install had been finished but it wasn't) looking like something it isn't.
Gotta admit, he's got a good point.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:58 AM   #16
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Someone on AWI said they installed it on a test server and it didn't seem to work.
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Old 03-07-2004, 08:30 AM   #17
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Someone on AWI said they installed it on a test server and it didn't seem to work.
meh well it's interesting.. someone get it to work and have a look at it.. or i will tomorrow or something... would be a cool tool if it worked and was benign to the program.
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Someone on AWI said they installed it on a test server and it didn't seem to work.
What seemed to be the problem?
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Old 03-07-2004, 12:02 PM   #19
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Nice idea, bubt I will be shocked if any MPA2 sponsor agrees to run this live and release data.
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Old 03-07-2004, 12:24 PM   #20
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Very nice idea! Wish you all the luck in the world. Hope some honest sponsors will at least check it out!

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Old 03-07-2004, 12:40 PM   #21
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Honestly. 2 posts? The questions sprints to mind instantly "who the fuck are you?"
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Old 03-07-2004, 12:42 PM   #22
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Honestly. 2 posts? The questions sprints to mind instantly "who the fuck are you?"
Hide... You hide?
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English... You speak English?
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Old 03-07-2004, 01:00 PM   #24
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I will gladly submit to any 'shave' test that someone wants to give. Test away!
Doc.ypur stats are about the most fucked up I have had to deal with.
I am not saying they are dishonest cos I actually believe you are honest but your along with your lack of support in answeirng emails you'd be the last sponsor I recommend to anyone.
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Old 03-07-2004, 02:27 PM   #26
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If the source of the script is visible, then what's stopping the sponsor from modifying it to show "shaved" stats?

If the source is encrypted on the other hand, no one will install it, especially since it came from some anonymous character.
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Old 03-07-2004, 02:37 PM   #28
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Old 03-07-2004, 02:39 PM   #29
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Doc.ypur stats are about the most fucked up I have had to deal with.
I am not saying they are dishonest cos I actually believe you are honest but your along with your lack of support in answeirng emails you'd be the last sponsor I recommend to anyone.
Our stats were totally fucked, but we don't use MPA now and our stats are working 100%, and have been for the last 2 weeks after the change.

As for emails, I have answered every e-mail every webmaster has sent me. Not much more I can say when you ask about problems that we had and I had already responded back to with the same answer, multiple times.

We notified our webmasters of the problems, about the change of software, and now everything is working top notch.
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Sounds like a good step forward, of course all you haters can bitch at it all you want, but it's an improvement.

It'd be good to have it come from a trusted 3rd party for sure, maybe get it tested and encrypted and then have sponsors using MPA2 submit to it.

I'd bet my ratios would be better
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Sounds like a good step forward, of course all you haters can bitch at it all you want, but it's an improvement.

It'd be good to have it come from a trusted 3rd party for sure, maybe get it tested and encrypted and then have sponsors using MPA2 submit to it.

I'd bet my ratios would be better

Sounds like a plan, who's first?
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Yea ... If lensman would have done it most would have tried it . But it's a no-name so it can be anything
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Bump for all the sponsors who ignored this yesterday
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No it won't be, sponsors who are using MPA2 are avoiding this like it's got the clap.
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I think it's baldy, the guy who created freetgpsubmitter.com and then sold it. The script can probably be trusted if it's him.
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I think it's baldy, the guy who created freetgpsubmitter.com and then sold it. The script can probably be trusted if it's him.
Yup, he spelled his name "baldy" on AWI
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Come on MPA2 users

Use it
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Funny how you fuckin crooks are avoinding this thread like the plague, don't worry i'll keep on bumping it
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ignoring it doesn't make it go away

Spam me with sponsors using MPA2
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Anyone gonna step up to the plate and dare try it?
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