Question for the UK Wembasters... - GoFuckYourself.com

TheJimmy · 02-28-2004, 10:34 PM

do most UK surfers pay for stuff online via CC's or dialers?

I'm curious as to the most common form of payment...

thanks in advance for the info...

=^..^= · 02-28-2004, 10:36 PM

they dont
quote:
"no sex please, we're Brittish"

TheJimmy · 02-28-2004, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=
they dont
quote:
"no sex please, we're Brittish"

lol, sure sure...

djhits · 02-28-2004, 11:02 PM

if you really want to target UK surfers
try

http://www.nochex.com

almost every adult in the UK has a debit card and nochex is like a paypal for UK debit cards (except the user doesnt have to register)

but i would say most UK surfers have credit cards, because most have credit cards in the UK

TheJimmy · 02-28-2004, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djhits
if you really want to target UK surfers
try

http://www.nochex.com

almost every adult in the UK has a debit card and nochex is like a paypal for UK debit cards (except the user doesnt have to register)

but i would say most UK surfers have credit cards, because most have credit cards in the UK

awesome, thanks man...I'll check that out, and thanks for the info...it's been a while since I've been to that side of the world...

DialerMaster · 03-03-2004, 03:36 AM

DIalers works the best for UK users we have a speical dialer for UK convert real good

dlone · 03-03-2004, 05:39 AM

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but i would say most UK surfers have credit cards, because most have credit cards in the UK

Agreed credit cards work best.

kelly · 03-03-2004, 05:43 AM

credit/debit cards

mattyboy · 03-03-2004, 07:11 AM

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credit/debit cards

txtbill · 03-03-2004, 07:32 AM

I would recomend nochex email [email protected] he will sort you out.

Appart from, that wait for txtBILL SMS Billing to come online, SMS converts like mad with good UK traffic.

Hit me up icq in my sig.

DVTimes · 03-03-2004, 07:34 AM

Just my thoughts.

I personally do not like diallers. Ok they may work short term, but I am not sure how many surfers will want to pay dialler rates each month when they can join other sites for much less - and stay with them. I prefer to look at long term, and keep members happy for a long time.

People in the UK are getting far more happier paying on line. I think in the past people were wary, but to be honest, how often do you turn on TV and hear about problems paying online with people stealing cash. Not often, its probably these days the least credit card crime done.

Debit cards are very popular in the UK. I suspect Debit cards are not used as much in the USA. As such most sites seem only to offer credit card payments. In the UK Switch cards are owned by many people, so if you can take payments this way then its great. The problem with debit cards is that people under 18 can own them, and so unlike credit cards which means only those 18 and over can access your site. With a switch card, a 14 year old can access your site, and so there is a chance that you could be providing porn to under 18 year olds. Switch after all is an electric version of Checks, and so anyone with a bank account can have a Switch card (just about).

Another major problem is that most sites only quote USA dollars. $10 sounds a lot but its only about £5. Many UK surfers will not be able to know the difference, and so may be put of from joining thinking the site cost more than it does. I also wonder how many of those in the UK who read there credit card stament may think they are being cheated, as the amount taken from the card each month will change. I.e., $30 may be £15 one month and £16 the next. I wonder how many cancel thinking they are being cheated.

I am surprised how little USA payment systems seem to cater for those in the UK considering that there must be millions of UK pounds spent on the net.

ListYourPorn · 03-03-2004, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=
they dont
quote:
"no sex please, we're Brittish"

I think you will find its NOCHEX PLEASE WE ARE BRITISH ;-)

Mate if you are in the UK we offer Debit Card Processing for 1% no set up or monthly fees,

Also you will never have a charge back, we have about 1700 sites to date in the UK using Nochex for Membership payments.

You also get instant access to your money which in the current climate is a must.

[email protected] - ICQ 219458592 - drop me a line

LasseKongos · 03-03-2004, 07:38 AM

You earn cash at dialers with UK traffic

DVTimes · 03-03-2004, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ListYourPorn

I think you will find its NOCHEX PLEASE WE ARE BRITISH ;-)

Mate if you are in the UK we offer Debit Card Processing for 1% no set up or monthly fees,

Also you will never have a charge back, we have about 1700 sites to date in the UK using Nochex for Membership payments.

You also get instant access to your money which in the current climate is a must.

[email protected] - ICQ 219458592 - drop me a line

Out of interest how would you deal with the problem of those under 18 joining up with a Switch card?

I know many children who have them. I too had one at 16.

With credit card by law you have to be 18, but not with debit cards.

Thus if a 16 year old went on, and parents found out. I just wonder what the legal position is.

I.e., unless you put in place some protection to prevent under 18's joining, then I am sure people would have a case to sue.

chemicaleyes · 03-03-2004, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=
they dont
quote:
"no sex please, we're Brittish"

I needed a laugh, TY.

acuk · 03-03-2004, 07:51 AM

Hi Jimmy,
If you're looking to promote UK Dialer programs then check out adultcashuk.com .
Payouts monthly by free wire transfer in pounds and with the exchange rate being nearly $1.90 to £1.00 there's never been a better time to get payouts in pounds......

SGS · 03-03-2004, 08:02 AM

If Nochex could be integrated into an affiliate program it would be great but without that capability its no use to serious programs.

ListYourPorn · 03-06-2004, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by allanuk

Out of interest how would you deal with the problem of those under 18 joining up with a Switch card?

I know many children who have them. I too had one at 16.

With credit card by law you have to be 18, but not with debit cards.

Thus if a 16 year old went on, and parents found out. I just wonder what the legal position is.

I.e., unless you put in place some protection to prevent under 18's joining, then I am sure people would have a case to sue.

Funny I often wonder the same thing regarding credit card sales,dialers etc - what if a minor takes their parents CC and then orders one of your DVD's?

I am sure there is some legal clause I am will indeed check them out though its a parents responsibility to control their children.

ListYourPorn · 03-06-2004, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
If Nochex could be integrated into an affiliate program it would be great but without that capability its no use to serious programs.

Nochex is seeking partners to do this with Adultcashuk - the above post - are in the process of setting up payouts via Nochex. We are also in the process of talking with 4 - 5 others.

This is a very valid point and I obviously is a cheaper way and more reliable way to payout your partners. Hopefully in the next six months we can get more people from the USA and Europe to pay out UK Webmasters within their programe.

Let me know if you wanna do the same or have discuss it - [email protected]

03-06-2004, 04:46 AM

The best way to convert UK traffic dialers. Some our big webmasters do it more 3000 euro per day just send UK traffic to us.

JoeA · 03-06-2004, 05:23 AM

In the UK we have quite a few choices..

With Global Charge/Coulomb I have a 30 minute SMS trial on one of my sites for UK£2. I also use their dialler which can go from US$50 - 250 a month, They also accept Switch and Solo and to be honest.. I didn't think of under 18's using them before I read the post above.. hmmm

And of course good old CCBill now with 900 access for US surfers as well as the usual cc's.

I also bank in the States and have a debit card for my account there and it's a MasterCard which works the same as a credit card, only it's tied to the amount in the bank

I don't know if I have this as I am a non resident account holder or all Americans get this. Do you Americans have/use debit cards ?

solonline · 03-06-2004, 07:34 AM

For UK surfers we are selling more and more through Nochex
real simple to use, secure and super fast payouts n low rates/
Draw back is its very limited on intergration but still good, and a definate alternate to paypal for UK surfers.
Mooneybookers seem another good choice, we just getting set with them for a number of projects.

Only way to go long term is your own merchant account,
3rd party processing is a dying model, or at least will be in a couple of years i reacon

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DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,547	Just my thoughts. I personally do not like diallers. Ok they may work short term, but I am not sure how many surfers will want to pay dialler rates each month when they can join other sites for much less - and stay with them. I prefer to look at long term, and keep members happy for a long time. People in the UK are getting far more happier paying on line. I think in the past people were wary, but to be honest, how often do you turn on TV and hear about problems paying online with people stealing cash. Not often, its probably these days the least credit card crime done. Debit cards are very popular in the UK. I suspect Debit cards are not used as much in the USA. As such most sites seem only to offer credit card payments. In the UK Switch cards are owned by many people, so if you can take payments this way then its great. The problem with debit cards is that people under 18 can own them, and so unlike credit cards which means only those 18 and over can access your site. With a switch card, a 14 year old can access your site, and so there is a chance that you could be providing porn to under 18 year olds. Switch after all is an electric version of Checks, and so anyone with a bank account can have a Switch card (just about). Another major problem is that most sites only quote USA dollars. $10 sounds a lot but its only about £5. Many UK surfers will not be able to know the difference, and so may be put of from joining thinking the site cost more than it does. I also wonder how many of those in the UK who read there credit card stament may think they are being cheated, as the amount taken from the card each month will change. I.e., $30 may be £15 one month and £16 the next. I wonder how many cancel thinking they are being cheated. I am surprised how little USA payment systems seem to cater for those in the UK considering that there must be millions of UK pounds spent on the net. __________________ The Affiliate Program

03-03-2004, 07:38 AM	#13
LasseKongos Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,668	You earn cash at dialers with UK traffic

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acuk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 234	Hi Jimmy, If you're looking to promote UK Dialer programs then check out adultcashuk.com . Payouts monthly by free wire transfer in pounds and with the exchange rate being nearly $1.90 to £1.00 there's never been a better time to get payouts in pounds...... __________________ SIGLESS FOR NOW

03-03-2004, 08:02 AM	#17
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03-06-2004, 04:46 AM	#20
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	The best way to convert UK traffic dialers. Some our big webmasters do it more 3000 euro per day just send UK traffic to us.

03-06-2004, 05:23 AM	#21
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	In the UK we have quite a few choices.. With Global Charge/Coulomb I have a 30 minute SMS trial on one of my sites for UK£2. I also use their dialler which can go from US$50 - 250 a month, They also accept Switch and Solo and to be honest.. I didn't think of under 18's using them before I read the post above.. hmmm And of course good old CCBill now with 900 access for US surfers as well as the usual cc's. I also bank in the States and have a debit card for my account there and it's a MasterCard which works the same as a credit card, only it's tied to the amount in the bank I don't know if I have this as I am a non resident account holder or all Americans get this. Do you Americans have/use debit cards ?

03-06-2004, 07:34 AM	#22
solonline Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: EU- Posts: 718	For UK surfers we are selling more and more through Nochex real simple to use, secure and super fast payouts n low rates/ Draw back is its very limited on intergration but still good, and a definate alternate to paypal for UK surfers. Mooneybookers seem another good choice, we just getting set with them for a number of projects. Only way to go long term is your own merchant account, 3rd party processing is a dying model, or at least will be in a couple of years i reacon