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Old 03-02-2004, 11:01 PM   #251
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:11 PM   #252
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I don't know enough to make an informed judgement call. If they meant to actually steal content, then they did wrong and I hope they pay, but in a large organization mistakes do happen. I see content theft each and every day of my life, there are more thieves then honest people in the business, and someone with a content budget like they have don't quite fit the profile of your typical thief.

I'll be keeping my eye on this as it unfolds and I hope all can be worked out to the satisfcation of all parties involved.

Good post Jact. I agree with every bit of what you said, although I'm not sure if more than 50% of the ppl in this biz are dishonest. I guess it depends on how you define dishonesty.
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:44 PM   #253
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:07 AM   #255
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Rich J. Did you disappear?
Nope... I was busy working on my own projects and actually forgot about this issue. Now I'm glad I checked back. To answer your question regarding my role at Xpics, I was a designer in their special projects group where I basically designed and submitted 5-15 galleries and free sites a day. I'm not at liberty to discuss the details of the operations at Xpics because I honestly don't know what went on at management meetings etc. I can assure you I had absolutely no decision making power in my position there. Either way, that is all beside the point really. I just find it ironic that so many could blindly point the finger at Guerilla Traffic when they obviously made a simple mistake when there are so many other's who are more deserving of such criticism. In the end, the only people who should really be concerned here are the content producers whose property was mistakenly allowed to end up on GT's galleries and I am sure one way or another the folks over at Guerilla Traffic will do everything in their power to make it right. Really what more could you ask?
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:47 AM   #256
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I make assloads of money with GT and they pay on time.

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Old 03-03-2004, 12:51 AM   #257
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Old 03-03-2004, 01:55 AM   #260
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Nope... I was busy working on my own projects and actually forgot about this issue. Now I'm glad I checked back. To answer your question regarding my role at Xpics, I was a designer in their special projects group where I basically designed and submitted 5-15 galleries and free sites a day. I'm not at liberty to discuss the details of the operations at Xpics because I honestly don't know what went on at management meetings etc. I can assure you I had absolutely no decision making power in my position there. Either way, that is all beside the point really. I just find it ironic that so many could blindly point the finger at Guerilla Traffic when they obviously made a simple mistake when there are so many other's who are more deserving of such criticism. In the end, the only people who should really be concerned here are the content producers whose property was mistakenly allowed to end up on GT's galleries and I am sure one way or another the folks over at Guerilla Traffic will do everything in their power to make it right. Really what more could you ask?
I asked to determine what weight your opinion holds in this discussion. Had you been involved with management, your opinion wouldn't mean 2 shits to anyone here.

Do you really believe this is a simple mistake? Even if it was unintentional or the work of a rogue designer, it still points out obvious flaws in the way the company is managed and their content is maintained.

They should have someone supervising their designers' work. They should have someone reviewing galleries before they're made public. If their designers feel the need to go elsewhere for content because they don't want to look through the content server, perhaps the content server needs to be better managed?
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:23 AM   #263
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I can buy the excuse that the designer used stolen pics on galleries. Just to make it easier for him. I can buy that explanation.

BUT, I can not use the same excuse when they were caught using stolen pics on the tour and replaced the tour pics with other stolen pics.

If you were caught using stolen pics on a tour, wouldn't you be 100% sure that you replaced the pics with your own licensed content? Isn't it in the interest of the company to do that? Instead of just leaving the responsibility on the designer, which obviously proved that he was not to trust?
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:30 AM   #264
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And still no reply from the GT crew?

Guess they are really busy making sure they remove every damn picture they dont own the right to use...

But would be nice to hear what they say...

This thread will not go away untill they answer thats one thing for sure!
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:38 AM   #265
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Actually we are dealing with this directly with the providers and handling everything. Everything will be worked out. We will not be posting in here anymore.
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:43 AM   #266
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Ok mind telling me when you are done?

Because then I can let my guard down.

And take it for granted that you erased all the content you did not have license to.

Ofcourse I will browse your stuff and get back on ya ass if you still have stolen stuff.

Would be nice to close this.
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:59 AM   #267
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That's great and I don't think anyone questioned the money they have made people. Bells should be ringing though in the case that I know you use sponsor content on your pages and if they have content that they did not licence, then perhaps you now have some of that content and are now in violation. You can also think a step further and wonder what else they perhaps are currently doing or have done in the past that could affect you promoting them? Just expressing general thoughts that any company or individual should think of when a single factor like this comes forward. It pretty much was the fact of replacing the found stolen images, with more stolen images, that causes some negative feelings towards PornProfit/GuerillaTraffic and their business ethics.

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I personally know of a huge lawsuit coming down on quite a few sponsors for using unliscened (sp) content.

It's more common than you think.
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I personally know of a huge lawsuit coming down on quite a few sponsors for using unliscened (sp) content.

It's more common than you think.
Okay.. Does that make it right and should you not be worried about being brought into the situation?

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Actually we are dealing with this directly with the providers and handling everything. Everything will be worked out. We will not be posting in here anymore.


Probably a good idea not to post in a place where you have been exposed... that sounds like the smartest thing I have heard out of this thread from the people with their hand in the cookie jar.....
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So basically, you're just going to ignore the issue and hope it goes away?
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So basically, you're just going to ignore the issue and hope it goes away?
Whatīs the name of that bird who hide itīs head in the sand and think it cant been seen?

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I talked to megatron this morning ( a very busy man ) . He's not hiding or going nowhere. He was up till 4 am at the office going thru all his content and trying to match up licenses. He will talk to everybody but he dosen't want to get caught in some WWF mob scene on the boards.
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So basically, you're just going to ignore the issue and hope it goes away?
I hardly call taking care of the issue ignoring it, but I will not waste my time on this board going back and forth with you guys. All parties involved will be taken care of, thats all that needs to happen. I am sure there will be follow up when it's all said and done.

You guys assuming things and saying we're hiding holds no truth, we have posted in here, talked to anybody that wants to talk on icq, and are handling things.
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I hardly call taking care of the issue ignoring it, but I will not waste my time on this board going back and forth with you guys. All parties involved will be taken care of, thats all that needs to happen. I am sure there will be follow up when it's all said and done.

You guys assuming things and saying we're hiding holds no truth, we have posted in here, talked to anybody that wants to talk on icq, and are handling things.
Hey all I ask from you is that you post here when you are done cleaning up.
Thats all I ask.
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I hardly call taking care of the issue ignoring it, but I will not waste my time on this board going back and forth with you guys. All parties involved will be taken care of, thats all that needs to happen. I am sure there will be follow up when it's all said and done.

You guys assuming things and saying we're hiding holds no truth, we have posted in here, talked to anybody that wants to talk on icq, and are handling things.
So then why not say that in your original post instead of saying "We will not be posting in here anymore"?

Once all this is resolved, will you make the name of the rogue designer public so that the rest of us do not hire him/her for design work and the involved parties can file lawsuits against him?
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I call BULLSHIT!

We will be discussing this situation LIVE today at 1:30 pacific time on CrossHairs with JMM and Tonda.

http://www.tawradio.com

I have been involved with this, helping a friend so I am very familiar with the situation.

I would like ANYONE involved in this, who wants to come on the show to email me at jeff AT sunupmedia DOT com or to ICQ me.
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I call BULLSHIT!

We will be discussing this situation LIVE today at 1:30 pacific time on CrossHairs with JMM and Tonda.

http://www.tawradio.com

I have been involved with this, helping a friend so I am very familiar with the situation.

I would like ANYONE involved in this, who wants to come on the show to email me at jeff AT sunupmedia DOT com or to ICQ me.
Please clairify...

You call bullshit from who?

GT or the rest of us?
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I call BULLSHIT on GT.

Im disappointed that you have backed off since you started this thread.
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Who backed off?
Me?

What more can I do at the moment?

They said they would clean up their act and all I am waiting for is for them to get back to this board telling us all they did and clairify the situation what they done.

Do not think for one second I wont go trough their sites for more stolen stuff.
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:44 PM   #283
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I hardly call taking care of the issue ignoring it, but I will not waste my time on this board going back and forth with you guys. All parties involved will be taken care of, thats all that needs to happen. I am sure there will be follow up when it's all said and done.

You guys assuming things and saying we're hiding holds no truth, we have posted in here, talked to anybody that wants to talk on icq, and are handling things.
Wow 6 pages of damage and to think you could have stopped this dead on the first page if you had handled it right.

Instead you came out with what looked like a knee-jerk bullshit excuse.

Very sad.
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I think the most important things to note about this the following:

1) They have not gone away they are not hideing they are dealing with this as quickly as possible.

2) They are willing to talk with and try to find a solution with any and all content producers who come forward.

3) The content in question is nothing special. You can buy it or stuff like it for a dime a dozen. From a business stand point it doesn't make sence becasue they now will have to compensate those content producers more than they would have if they just bought it in the first place.

4) The people who have the most to say about this are webmasters not the content producers.

5) Sherie's explination of a person working for them doing this while somewhat off the wall is possible. (I have nightmares about this kind of thing happening)

6) The (as a paysite network) job of matching all the live content you have everywhere (members area, POD, hosted gallerys, hosted freesites etc...) with there licences after the fact is HUGE and takes alot of time. While the average webmaster may only have a few thousand or tens of thousands of images under there licences. Some paysite networks have hundreds of thousands or millions of images that they have licences on and or that they have live at any given time.

7) It is not reasonable for Guerilla Traffic to shut everything down while they deal with this. There are people who are advertising them and it would be terrable if they had to shut down everything while they checked all the content. So they are dealing with it in the most reasonable way I can think of. Business as usual and trying to deal with each new problem as it happens.

I don't think this will affect me personally in terms of my use/trust of them at all. If they went into hideing that would be a different story.
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Just wanna post it here..


Yup, that is ours...used without permission.

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Please get back to me if so is true..we are having along thread about them here.

Yes I started it

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...pagen umber=1

The picture I think they are using without you knowing it is on this paysite in the tour pages..

http://www.xxxexplicit.com/loadjunkies/images/t4_15.jpg

The paysite url is this...

http://www.xxxexplicit.com/loadjunki... d=50&plid=41

Please get back to me on this issue...

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Out of curiosity I wanted to see if they really got rid of all of Linda Might's big clit pics.

Here we got some pics of Linda's clit just to see the anatomy of it
http://www.lindamight.com/tgp/lm011.jpg
http://www.lindamight.com/preview4.html
http://freex-ratedsex.com/linda-migh...-huge-clit.htm
http://freex-ratedsex.com/linda-migh...it-picture.htm


Here we got a GT gallery:
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../indexaee.html


Doesn't this looks like her clit?
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/5.jpg


Here we even got pics with Linda Might's copyright on the picture
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/10.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/11.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/12.jpg


And here we got two that are copyrighted to BMEzine.com
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/9.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/1.jpg


Nice job Guerilla Traffic!
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Out of curiosity I wanted to see if they really got rid of all of Linda Might's big clit pics.

Here we got some pics of Linda's clit just to see the anatomy of it
http://www.lindamight.com/tgp/lm011.jpg
http://www.lindamight.com/preview4.html
http://freex-ratedsex.com/linda-migh...-huge-clit.htm
http://freex-ratedsex.com/linda-migh...it-picture.htm


Here we got a GT gallery:
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../indexaee.html


Doesn't this looks like her clit?
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/5.jpg


Here we even got pics with Linda Might's copyright on the picture
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/10.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/11.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/12.jpg


And here we got two that are copyrighted to BMEzine.com
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/9.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs...3/images/1.jpg


Nice job Guerilla Traffic!
Good find
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:29 PM   #289
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Another gallery with Linda Might pics, WITH the copyright still on the picture

http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../indexajd.html

http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/11.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/10.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/15.jpg
http://www.big-large-clits.com/overs.../images/13.jpg
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:40 PM   #290
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guerilla traffic got kinda quiet - what's up? where is the canadian designer aka EvilDesigner ?
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:41 PM   #291
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Old 03-03-2004, 05:35 PM   #292
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Great radio show Jeff!

And thank you all for finding more of my stolen material. I find more and more each day even though they keep tellingme there are NO more images on their site. They want me to find all of them myself.....

uh uh.....no can do. I will be speaking with George tomorrow on the phone.

This matter will be resolved one way or another.

Thanks again...I just made screen captures of the images you all found.


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Old 03-03-2004, 07:02 PM   #293
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Note to Danny:

You are wrong. The people who have the most to say are ME....the CONTENT PROVIDER AND WEBMASTER of my own domain of which NOTHING has ever been licensed to these entities.

And the content in question...you say is nothing special....uh huh...sure. That's why they admit there is hardly any content of big clits anywhere out there....then there is me.....LindaMight.

I am not in any way tooting my own horn....I am just sick and tired of pirates, thieves and people who say "I didn't know it was yours". Enough is enough!

To all those who have been infringed upon......Again, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!


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PS: I won't write any more about these entities until I have something good to say. Slams, terse words, name-calling isn't my bag............. justice is......
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Old 03-03-2004, 07:06 PM   #294
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This keeps getting better and better.....
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LindaMight
Note to Danny:

You are wrong. The people who have the most to say are ME....the CONTENT PROVIDER AND WEBMASTER of my own domain of which NOTHING has ever been licensed to these entities.
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I should have made myself more clear on this subject. What I was meaning by that was most of the people who are posting in this thread and on other boards. Where there are threads poping up saying can you trust them and so on are webmasters who arn't involved in this at all. While there are content producers who have posted as far as I have been told they are being taken care of in whatever way it is one on one in personal talks rather than on the boards. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ON THIS POINT!!!

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And the content in question...you say is nothing special....uh huh...sure. That's why they admit there is hardly any content of big clits anywhere out there....then there is me.....LindaMight.
Once agian I'm sorry about not being more clear on my statement. I was not meaning any offence to you or trying to say that the pictures were not good. Please accept my apoligy.

I have not looked at all of the pictures so I don't know for sure if some are special or not. It was ment more as a blanket statement for adult content. While some images and video are very very special and can make millions just becasue of what it is the paris hilton video is a good example. Most adult content isn't. With as many people in the adult business today producing content as there prices have gone way down. At this point in time with the cost of content it isn't worth the possible legal and PR problems of using unlicenced can and will cause.

So to make the statement crystal clear let me reword it.

3) Adult content is inexpensive to buy. From a business stand point it makes no sence not to buy it. It WILL cost you ALOT more in the long term than buying that licence in the first place would.

That is why for the moment I still think and hope that the statements made by the people over at Guerilla Traffic are true. Becasue if they arn't true then I have to reconsider my opinon of them becasue this whole thing is just bad business practices.


I am not here to say OPPS for them or to cover this stuff up. I hope that the content producers who have been wronged get what they deserve. Personally I was a little worried when I first saw this topic as the night before I had given them a link to our content plugin to evaluate. How they deal with this problem and the content companies that have been wronged will show alot of what type of business they run. I will save my name calling (good or bad) until that time. I hope that this was all a big opps on there part. I hope that this never happens again and that they will put things in place to protect agains't it from ever happening again. I am just trying to look at the subject from an outside point of view and present my thoughts about it calmly rather than flying off the handle and yelling "EVERYONE TAKE THERE LINKS DOWN!!" like some people do.
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Old 03-03-2004, 08:36 PM   #296
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Thank you very much for taking the time to post regarding this site. It just so happens that Ray alerted me of this site, and thanks to your post board, their tour page has changed and so far I have found none of our content there. Great job, Cumsensei! We're gonna kill those suckas!!!

Stay tuned for a listing of other sites that need to be fried!!!Thank you very much for taking the time to post regarding this site. It just so happens that Ray alerted me of this site, and thanks to your post board, their tour page has changed and so far I have found none of our content there. We're gonna kill those suckas!!!
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:57 PM   #298
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hey guerilla girls, why don't you lock your attorney in the basement and take charge. You know that your getting your ass kicked and you are not in charge but must take all the heat.
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anything interesting being said on the show yesterday? I missed it.

peace ;)
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anything interesting being said on the show yesterday? I missed it.

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