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gregtx · 03-02-2004, 04:51 PM

anyway.. this is not my fight.. so i'll bow out...

but bashing a company without even attempting to talk to the person in charge.. is a sad way to do business as well..

boneprone · 03-02-2004, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Down_Under

are you trying to be funny?

No Im serious...

The Jews did it.

When there is a Conspiracy at hand, its always a safe bet to blame the Jews..

They did it.

CumSensei · 03-02-2004, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
anyway.. this is not my fight.. so i'll bow out...

but bashing a company without even attempting to talk to the person in charge.. is a sad way to do business as well..

Ohh ok so it´s my fault they send out people asking me if I wanna promote them and have the new people they hire showing some gallery all full of COHF content?

Now I see.

boneprone · 03-02-2004, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

No Im serious...

The Jews did it.

When there is a Conspiracy at hand, its always a safe bet to blame the Jews..

They did it.

Unless theft really did take place..

In that case, its always best to blame the Negros..

Perhaps this is a case of a Jewish Negro..

A Hebro of sorts..

swedguy · 03-02-2004, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

Perhaps this is a case of a Jewish Negro..

Those are the worst case. So I've heard.

slackologist · 03-02-2004, 05:03 PM

dont know if this is related but an ex facial cash guy hit me up on icq a while back asking me if i wanted to buy cheap content.. ( dont know if this was legit or not) and i dont mean to insinuate that this guy was doing anything wrong.

slackologist · 03-02-2004, 05:04 PM

when i say a while back.. = 2-3 yrs

scoreman · 03-02-2004, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dustman
[B]Dirty D here - I run http://www.TampaBukkake.com

GuerillaTraffic was using some of my images on the main tour of BukkakeBarn.com (this included the main large image)

I got the same story of the "rogue" designer
It doesn't fly with me... I hire designers every day...
They are only allowed to use my content.
I would never publish anything from a designer that I did not recognize as mine.

After a few days my images were replaced and I was assured that everything was taken care of and they signed up to my program.

The fucked up thing is, my images were replaced with what appears to be COHF images. Sort of blows the rogue designer excuse, eh?

The prosecutions star witness has the jury gasping in shock.....

Dirty D · 03-02-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
anyway.. this is not my fight.. so i'll bow out...

but bashing a company without even attempting to talk to the person in charge..

This is untrue. George and I had several conversations.

It was George that re-assured me everything was taken care of.

That is when the COHF pics showed up....

eurothumb · 03-02-2004, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

No Im serious...

The Jews did it.

When there is a Conspiracy at hand, its always a safe bet to blame the Jews..

They did it.

VirtuMike · 03-02-2004, 07:12 PM

Just thought this might be appropriate:

Porn Profit/Guerilla Traffic are currently and have been using our feeds since shortly after we launched them. They have an excellent history with my organization and I plan to do quite a great deal of business with them in the future. I know that they buy our content as well as a lot of content from other providers, and they make their own content as well. They are good people, regardless of what this thread argues.

The Other Steve · 03-02-2004, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
Just thought this might be appropriate:

Porn Profit/Guerilla Traffic are currently and have been using our feeds since shortly after we launched them. They have an excellent history with my organization and I plan to do quite a great deal of business with them in the future. I know that they buy our content as well as a lot of content from other providers, and they make their own content as well. They are good people, regardless of what this thread argues.

Interesting - so Mike you're saying that they are good people despite other content providers coming into this thread and saying that GT has taken their content and used it without first buying it?

Actually I was surprised at just how few friends and how many detractors GT seemed to have.

rounders · 03-02-2004, 07:23 PM

assed out now!

VirtuMike · 03-02-2004, 07:37 PM

Look, I'm usually the first guy to get livid when I see someone stealing my content. But I usually am pretty civil about it if the parties involved have a good reputation.

The problem is that this company is MASSIVE - it's probably one of the biggest 10 in the industry. They have content they own that they have never seen and they have at least one full time guy that does nothing but manage their members areas. I don't know exactly how many they employ but it's easily over 50 full time. When they say they have spent over one million dollars in content, they're serious.

When you get to be that size, things happen. You get designers who think they're artists and get things that they don't own. And you are controlling a couple million clicks a day with a couple hundred paysites and 30,000 traffic sources, it's almost impossible to manage. I'm not making excuses for them, I'm just saying that they are good people and I don't think they intended to rip anyone's content. They have enough of their own.

The Other Steve · 03-02-2004, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
Look, I'm usually the first guy to get livid when I see someone stealing my content. But I usually am pretty civil about it if the parties involved have a good reputation.

The problem is that this company is MASSIVE - it's probably one of the biggest 10 in the industry. They have content they own that they have never seen and they have at least one full time guy that does nothing but manage their members areas. I don't know exactly how many they employ but it's easily over 50 full time. When they say they have spent over one million dollars in content, they're serious.

When you get to be that size, things happen. You get designers who think they're artists and get things that they don't own. And you are controlling a couple million clicks a day with a couple hundred paysites and 30,000 traffic sources, it's almost impossible to manage. I'm not making excuses for them, I'm just saying that they are good people and I don't think they intended to rip anyone's content. They have enough of their own.

You still think that after they replaced unpaid for content with even more unpaid for content?

Hmmmm

stevent37 · 03-02-2004, 07:43 PM

Jeez........... Porn Is Bad

natkejs · 03-02-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

Unless theft really did take place..

In that case, its always best to blame the Negros..

Perhaps this is a case of a Jewish Negro..

A Hebro of sorts..

trying to make new friends huh?

greentea · 03-02-2004, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by dustman
[B]Dirty D here - I run http://www.TampaBukkake.com

GuerillaTraffic was using some of my images on the main tour of BukkakeBarn.com (this included the main large image)

I got the same story of the "rogue" designer
It doesn't fly with me... I hire designers every day...
They are only allowed to use my content.
I would never publish anything from a designer that I did not recognize as mine.

After a few days my images were replaced and I was assured that everything was taken care of and they signed up to my program.

The fucked up thing is, my images were replaced with what appears to be COHF images. Sort of blows the rogue designer excuse, eh?

interesting....

darnit · 03-02-2004, 08:03 PM

I really have nothing to contribute and didnt read the whole thread.....but ....

this is their 2257:
http://www.xxxexplicit.com/gooface/index.php?page=2257

Looks to me that they have been buying a shit ton of content from almost all the providers i can think of...

dont know if they stole anything and really dont wanna get in the debate, but thats a pretty impressive list and denotes a pretty big ol content budget...

integrated · 03-02-2004, 08:05 PM

in a situation like this the best way to go is the "we have been hacked option"

the last and i mean last option to fall back on is the rogue designer

geez lets cast our mind back to all the rogue designers around here

makebling was the last instance

RETURN OF THE ROGUE DESIGNER

VirtuMike · 03-02-2004, 08:07 PM

MAN I hate when this happens.

greentea · 03-02-2004, 08:07 PM

If they got rid of sherie that company would be a lot better off..

psyko514 · 03-02-2004, 08:11 PM

what a lame fucking excuse.

why would a designer scour the net for facial content, download, crop out the copyright info and then use it in the site and gallery design? why wouldn't he use the content readily available?

and if your company is so large, why can't you afford to hire at least one person to supervise your designers and their work?

surely you know who the designer is. surely you could make that information public so that others can avoid this happening to them as well. surely there will be lawsuits regarding this. surely you'll at the very least provide the designers information to those whose copyrights were infringed so they can pursue the matter. right?

i smell a lot of bullshit.

integrated · 03-02-2004, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
MAN I hate when this happens.

no offence but your only here because they pad your bank account for feeds

so some how i think you outlook on the matter is biased

Jason · 03-02-2004, 08:12 PM

Cliff notes?

Joesho · 03-02-2004, 08:14 PM

what happened to the guerilla traffic crew? where are they at in order to offer any rebuttal?

integrated · 03-02-2004, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornDollar
Cliff notes?

stole content

then blaimed it on rogue designer

integrated · 03-02-2004, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
what happened to the guerilla traffic crew? where are they at in order to offer any rebuttal?

they are huddled in a bomb shelter now i guess

The Other Steve · 03-02-2004, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated

they are huddled in a bomb shelter now i guess

Sad isn't it - if they had only half a clue they could have stopped this dead on page 1 and maybe even come out of it smelling like roses.

VirtuMike · 03-02-2004, 08:40 PM

Yeah either that or supporting friends and clients for six years...

wiZd0m · 03-02-2004, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
what happened to the guerilla traffic crew? where are they at in order to offer any rebuttal?

Unlike many of you who seems quite happy to show your face here, even if it does not concern you, you'll notice that maybe they have 8 to 5 jobs and when they are done working, they go home to spend time with their famillies until the next business day.

Their organisation is not a 1 man show. They have a bunch of different full time staff handling different things for hosting, WM support, designers, etc.

integrated · 03-02-2004, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by wiZd0m

Unlike many of you who seems quite happy to show your face here, even if it does not concern you,

like you huh?

think with a clear head

strength and honour

its all we have, remember that

Rich J. · 03-02-2004, 09:01 PM

I have always known shit gets blown a little out of proportion on this board having worked for the company who owns it for a year but after reading this thread I now realize just how fucking stupid it can get.

I worked for Porn Profit for 3 years and I knew most of the people on staff. This company spends more money just managing their content than most of the companies on this board spend in total for the actual content they use on their sites/galleries. Not sure where the mistake was made but I am willing to put my reputation on the line when I say this HAD to be a mistake. If it was in fact the designer explaination it's a fairly easy concept to understand. Sometimes designers can be over-critical of the content they have to work with and in this situation many times they are simply overwhelmed by the amount of pics they have to sift through to find what they feel is "quality". It makes sense then that a designer might take it upon theirself to just go find a gallery of images already made up, download it, crop the watermarks, and redesign the layout. Would certainly save alot of time over the alternative which is sifting through gig after gig of pictures they don't feel make a good gallery. Not saying that this is the case here but for those insisting they don't understand why a designer would "scour the ineternet for hours" to find pics for a gallery obviously hasn't seen how many liscened pics they would have to scour through on the GT content server. Again, I have no idea what the particular case is here but I can tell you that I just lost respect for alot of people on this board for pointing fingers when they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Why would a company knowingly steal content when they have millions of dollars invested in legal content and then go out of their way to show people galleries of those stolen pics? If people don't see how this was obviously a mistake on the part of Guerilla Traffic then they are seriously lacking basic common sense.

psyko514 · 03-02-2004, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich J.
I have always known shit gets blown a little out of proportion on this board having worked for the company who owns it for a year but after reading this thread I now realize just how fucking stupid it can get.

I worked for Porn Profit for 3 years and I knew most of the people on staff. This company spends more money just managing their content than most of the companies on this board spend in total for the actual content they use on their sites/galleries. Not sure where the mistake was made but I am willing to put my reputation on the line when I say this HAD to be a mistake. If it was in fact the designer explaination it's a fairly easy concept to understand. Sometimes designers can be over-critical of the content they have to work with and in this situation many times they are simply overwhelmed by the amount of pics they have to sift through to find what they feel is "quality". It makes sense then that a designer might take it upon theirself to just go find a gallery of images already made up, download it, crop the watermarks, and redesign the layout. Would certainly save alot of time over the alternative which is sifting through gig after gig of pictures they don't feel make a good gallery. Not saying that this is the case here but for those insisting they don't understand why a designer would "scour the ineternet for hours" to find pics for a gallery obviously hasn't seen how many liscened pics they would have to scour through on the GT content server. Again, I have no idea what the particular case is here but I can tell you that I just lost respect for alot of people on this board for pointing fingers when they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Why would a company knowingly steal content when they have millions of dollars invested in legal content and then go out of their way to show people galleries of those stolen pics? If people don't see how this was obviously a mistake on the part of Guerilla Traffic then they are seriously lacking basic common sense.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you worked for XPics, right?
What role, if any, did you have in asssfucking the surfers and webmasters?

integrated · 03-02-2004, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you worked for XPics, right?
What role, if any, did you have in asssfucking the surfers and webmasters?

the plot thickens

natkejs · 03-02-2004, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you worked for XPics, right?
What role, if any, did you have in asssfucking the surfers and webmasters?

AOUCH! that's gotta hurt

jact · 03-02-2004, 09:28 PM

I don't know enough to make an informed judgement call. If they meant to actually steal content, then they did wrong and I hope they pay, but in a large organization mistakes do happen. I see content theft each and every day of my life, there are more thieves then honest people in the business, and someone with a content budget like they have don't quite fit the profile of your typical thief.

I'll be keeping my eye on this as it unfolds and I hope all can be worked out to the satisfcation of all parties involved.

SoundMan · 03-02-2004, 09:30 PM

think this thread needs A BIG pic of a gorilla!

greentea · 03-02-2004, 09:32 PM

Ill say it again get rid of sherie and that company would be a lot better off..

natkejs · 03-02-2004, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I don't know enough to make an informed judgement call. If they meant to actually steal content, then they did wrong and I hope they pay, but in a large organization mistakes do happen. I see content theft each and every day of my life, there are more thieves then honest people in the business, and someone with a content budget like they have don't quite fit the profile of your typical thief.

I'll be keeping my eye on this as it unfolds and I hope all can be worked out to the satisfcation of all parties involved.

I also seriously doubt their management planned this. To build such a large company they gotta have some brains... investing tooooons of cash in content for the members but stealing content for the affiliates, well, it just doesn't seem very likely.

However I do think they have a bunch of unmonitored shitty employees and I think their excuses are stupid as fuck.

Even if they got fucked by some designer it's their responsibility to make sure his work is legit. There is serveral instances here with stolen content being used in their tours. Obviously they have no clue what certain parts of their team is up to... even if it's a big misstake it's still a shitty operation if these things can happend over and over and over again.

integrated · 03-02-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Ill say it again get rid of sherie and that company would be a lot better off..

you should be sued for posts like this

i dont know why you are trying to get ppl fired but you should watch out for the legal actions that can result from such comments

greentea · 03-02-2004, 09:42 PM

You really ARE A CLUE LESS MORON!

integrated · 03-02-2004, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
You really ARE A CLUE LESS MORON!

i take offence to those words

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
I'm sure its a missunderstanding...

GT/PP paid us $30K for content 2 years ago.. and they pay thousands a month for leased feeds currently... so I highly doubt this was intentional..

why not just contact them personally and get the problem resolved in an amicable manner.. vs bashing them over a mistake on a public forum...

I know who I'm dealing with right now and I'm sorry about what I said earlier . They have got plenty of money to spend on content and I really don't understand how that can happen

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
Wow. Dustman's post pretty much made my mind up about this situation.

It's sad to see that PornProfit / GuerillaTraffic allowed this stuff to slip by.

Hopefully their ship doesn't sink but it's definitely flooded with water right now.

And CumSensei - Good job noticing that, I'm sure the content providers and owners of the pictures really appreciate it.

Oh, and you asked why they are keeping quiet? I didn't see one reply from PIBCash people when they were 'outted' ... though I know that the PornProfit / GuerillaTraffic crew are quite widespread on all of the boards. Maybe they thought they could cover it up.

I'm not taking any sides here either, just looking where the evidence points regarding the posts from people who say they own the content and such and posted what they saw going on. Perhaps they lying and have something against you guys but the benefit of the doubt is that they aren't.

Cheers,
Matt

Every god damn sponsor should let everybody know what<S going on when the boat take flood . When I had problem with my cards I let everybody know what was going on the whole fucking time.

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CumSensei

Where I work at we usally don´t put a person to work untill they know what they are doing.

Good point :P

CumSensei · 03-02-2004, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiZd0m

Unlike many of you who seems quite happy to show your face here, even if it does not concern you, you'll notice that maybe they have 8 to 5 jobs and when they are done working, they go home to spend time with their famillies until the next business day.

Their organisation is not a 1 man show. They have a bunch of different full time staff handling different things for hosting, WM support, designers, etc.

Well Wizdom if this would happen to my company I would not rest and I would sure as hell not go home before I knew this was solved.

And if it´s not a 1 man show I would leave a man behind (the boss maby) to clean this up.

You do not leave a stunt like this just working it out by itself.

And I cant belive we still have not gotten any replies from GT about this matter and I still have not seen any proof they got the rights to use the private.com and sweetmember pics they use in their affiliate galleries.

psyko514 · 03-02-2004, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you worked for XPics, right?
What role, if any, did you have in asssfucking the surfers and webmasters?

Rich J. Did you disappear?

scoreman · 03-02-2004, 10:15 PM

Rich J, your points are well taken, I work for a company that has 60+ staff members in our Miami office alone, I see the possibility in exactly what you are saying.

However....

What is the explanation for replacing unlicensed content with even more unlicensed content? This is a pretty bad smoking gun of a pattern of unethical conduct.

One poster previously suggested that they had clocked out for the night and gone home. I'm sorry but thats what you do when its business as usual, not when your program is having its credibility slammed on the industry's largest webmaster board. I wager that the critical folks from GT are here lurking, they arent watching Tuesday nite tv with the wife and kids.

If the senior management of this company is not part of this affair, they ought to terminate the staff that were involved, compensate those whose content was used improperly, put new projects on hold and instead work on organizing their content and auditing their sites and lastly have some staffing meetings to discuss what has happened, why it was wrong and why it should never happen again.

CumSensei · 03-02-2004, 10:56 PM

Well I guess they did not have the license to use the Wifeysworld picture since it´s now changed to some other pic...

http://www.xxxexplicit.com/loadjunkies/images/t4_15.jpg

Who would have guessed.

03-02-2004, 04:51 PM	#201
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	anyway.. this is not my fight.. so i'll bow out... but bashing a company without even attempting to talk to the person in charge.. is a sad way to do business as well.. __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

03-02-2004, 07:12 PM	#211
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Just thought this might be appropriate: Porn Profit/Guerilla Traffic are currently and have been using our feeds since shortly after we launched them. They have an excellent history with my organization and I plan to do quite a great deal of business with them in the future. I know that they buy our content as well as a lot of content from other providers, and they make their own content as well. They are good people, regardless of what this thread argues. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

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rounders Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: p0rn0stars & h0es Posts: 2,931	assed out now! __________________ ICQ#: 153923840

03-02-2004, 07:37 PM	#214
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Look, I'm usually the first guy to get livid when I see someone stealing my content. But I usually am pretty civil about it if the parties involved have a good reputation. The problem is that this company is MASSIVE - it's probably one of the biggest 10 in the industry. They have content they own that they have never seen and they have at least one full time guy that does nothing but manage their members areas. I don't know exactly how many they employ but it's easily over 50 full time. When they say they have spent over one million dollars in content, they're serious. When you get to be that size, things happen. You get designers who think they're artists and get things that they don't own. And you are controlling a couple million clicks a day with a couple hundred paysites and 30,000 traffic sources, it's almost impossible to manage. I'm not making excuses for them, I'm just saying that they are good people and I don't think they intended to rip anyone's content. They have enough of their own. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

03-02-2004, 08:02 PM	#218
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Originally posted by dustman [B]Dirty D here - I run http://www.TampaBukkake.com GuerillaTraffic was using some of my images on the main tour of BukkakeBarn.com (this included the main large image) I got the same story of the "rogue" designer It doesn't fly with me... I hire designers every day... They are only allowed to use my content. I would never publish anything from a designer that I did not recognize as mine. After a few days my images were replaced and I was assured that everything was taken care of and they signed up to my program. The fucked up thing is, my images were replaced with what appears to be COHF images. Sort of blows the rogue designer excuse, eh? interesting.... __________________ blunts

03-02-2004, 05:03 PM	#206
slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	dont know if this is related but an ex facial cash guy hit me up on icq a while back asking me if i wanted to buy cheap content.. ( dont know if this was legit or not) and i dont mean to insinuate that this guy was doing anything wrong.

03-02-2004, 05:04 PM	#207
slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	when i say a while back.. = 2-3 yrs

03-02-2004, 07:43 PM	#216
stevent37 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 266	Jeez........... Porn Is Bad

03-02-2004, 08:03 PM	#219
darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	I really have nothing to contribute and didnt read the whole thread.....but .... this is their 2257: http://www.xxxexplicit.com/gooface/index.php?page=2257 Looks to me that they have been buying a shit ton of content from almost all the providers i can think of... dont know if they stole anything and really dont wanna get in the debate, but thats a pretty impressive list and denotes a pretty big ol content budget...

03-02-2004, 08:05 PM	#220
integrated Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: west end Posts: 3,826	in a situation like this the best way to go is the "we have been hacked option" the last and i mean last option to fall back on is the rogue designer geez lets cast our mind back to all the rogue designers around here makebling was the last instance RETURN OF THE ROGUE DESIGNER __________________ Pioneer of .TV domains Grandfather of .TV development Respected among industry LEADERS

03-02-2004, 08:07 PM	#221
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	MAN I hate when this happens. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

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greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	If they got rid of sherie that company would be a lot better off.. __________________ blunts

03-02-2004, 08:11 PM	#223
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	what a lame fucking excuse. why would a designer scour the net for facial content, download, crop out the copyright info and then use it in the site and gallery design? why wouldn't he use the content readily available? and if your company is so large, why can't you afford to hire at least one person to supervise your designers and their work? surely you know who the designer is. surely you could make that information public so that others can avoid this happening to them as well. surely there will be lawsuits regarding this. surely you'll at the very least provide the designers information to those whose copyrights were infringed so they can pursue the matter. right? i smell a lot of bullshit. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

03-02-2004, 08:12 PM	#225
Jason Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,287	Cliff notes? __________________ I stay busy.

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VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Yeah either that or supporting friends and clients for six years... __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

03-02-2004, 09:01 PM	#233
Rich J. Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 589	I have always known shit gets blown a little out of proportion on this board having worked for the company who owns it for a year but after reading this thread I now realize just how fucking stupid it can get. I worked for Porn Profit for 3 years and I knew most of the people on staff. This company spends more money just managing their content than most of the companies on this board spend in total for the actual content they use on their sites/galleries. Not sure where the mistake was made but I am willing to put my reputation on the line when I say this HAD to be a mistake. If it was in fact the designer explaination it's a fairly easy concept to understand. Sometimes designers can be over-critical of the content they have to work with and in this situation many times they are simply overwhelmed by the amount of pics they have to sift through to find what they feel is "quality". It makes sense then that a designer might take it upon theirself to just go find a gallery of images already made up, download it, crop the watermarks, and redesign the layout. Would certainly save alot of time over the alternative which is sifting through gig after gig of pictures they don't feel make a good gallery. Not saying that this is the case here but for those insisting they don't understand why a designer would "scour the ineternet for hours" to find pics for a gallery obviously hasn't seen how many liscened pics they would have to scour through on the GT content server. Again, I have no idea what the particular case is here but I can tell you that I just lost respect for alot of people on this board for pointing fingers when they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Why would a company knowingly steal content when they have millions of dollars invested in legal content and then go out of their way to show people galleries of those stolen pics? If people don't see how this was obviously a mistake on the part of Guerilla Traffic then they are seriously lacking basic common sense.

03-02-2004, 09:28 PM	#237
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I don't know enough to make an informed judgement call. If they meant to actually steal content, then they did wrong and I hope they pay, but in a large organization mistakes do happen. I see content theft each and every day of my life, there are more thieves then honest people in the business, and someone with a content budget like they have don't quite fit the profile of your typical thief. I'll be keeping my eye on this as it unfolds and I hope all can be worked out to the satisfcation of all parties involved. __________________ Free agent

03-02-2004, 09:30 PM	#238
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	think this thread needs A BIG pic of a gorilla!

03-02-2004, 09:32 PM	#239
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Ill say it again get rid of sherie and that company would be a lot better off.. __________________ blunts

03-02-2004, 09:42 PM	#242
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	You really ARE A CLUE LESS MORON! __________________ blunts

03-02-2004, 10:15 PM	#249
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	Rich J, your points are well taken, I work for a company that has 60+ staff members in our Miami office alone, I see the possibility in exactly what you are saying. However.... What is the explanation for replacing unlicensed content with even more unlicensed content? This is a pretty bad smoking gun of a pattern of unethical conduct. One poster previously suggested that they had clocked out for the night and gone home. I'm sorry but thats what you do when its business as usual, not when your program is having its credibility slammed on the industry's largest webmaster board. I wager that the critical folks from GT are here lurking, they arent watching Tuesday nite tv with the wife and kids. If the senior management of this company is not part of this affair, they ought to terminate the staff that were involved, compensate those whose content was used improperly, put new projects on hold and instead work on organizing their content and auditing their sites and lastly have some staffing meetings to discuss what has happened, why it was wrong and why it should never happen again. __________________

03-02-2004, 10:56 PM	#250
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Well I guess they did not have the license to use the Wifeysworld picture since it´s now changed to some other pic... http://www.xxxexplicit.com/loadjunkies/images/t4_15.jpg Who would have guessed. __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.