Does Verotel suck? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lifer · 03-01-2004, 04:47 AM

Okay... I'm new and all.. but it seems to me that many affiliates are worried about getting ripped off. I mean I spent the better part of the last two months promoting sponsors.

I just don't think I want to support any sponsor that wants to use an accounting company like Verotel if the do it to hid from the affiliates.

I'd rather drop the affiliate and find another good or better site to promote. I have contacted some of the sponsors that I have who use Verotel. They all say it is because of the credit card thingy.

I don't trust them. Do you?

And CCBill may have had problems... but they are on the right track.

So... if you want to

me then that's cool

hoe_vender · 03-01-2004, 04:50 AM

dont know much about them

InsaneMidget · 03-01-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by hoe_vender
dont know much about them

then why did you post?

Anna_O · 03-01-2004, 04:55 AM

No. Verotel doesn't suck.

Lifer · 03-01-2004, 04:57 AM

But you can only see the sales transactions and not clicks.

The point of the clicks is to monitor traffic and analysis of your come on. Right?

So how can you do that with Verotel?

rowan · 03-01-2004, 06:05 AM

Verotel's affiliate system seems to be stuck somewhere around 1998. They track "banner clicks" which you can see in My Sales -> Graphical Stats.

Program webmasters can see a click-buy ratio for each affiliate, but it looks like the affiliate themselves can't see this important statistic. Useful!

Hentaikid · 03-01-2004, 06:11 AM

sales/graphical stats/

That's where your clicks are

Divide clicks by sales to get the ratio - there's a built in calculator in windows

skillfull · 03-01-2004, 06:29 AM

Verotel still so 1998
:P

polish_aristocrat · 03-01-2004, 07:56 AM

Poeple here don't like Verotel becasue it is an European processor.
The sole fact that they are located in another time zone, makes them less trustworthy for US webmasters

Project-Shadow · 03-01-2004, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Poeple here don't like Verotel becasue it is an European processor.
The sole fact that they are located in another time zone, makes them less trustworthy for US webmasters

That and they process kiddie shite...

SoundMan · 03-01-2004, 08:18 AM

could be a RISKY one to use.

BigPinPin · 03-01-2004, 08:21 AM

I trust absolute NO US Sponsor and NO Us Billing. I tried to use the same traffic and the same pages BUT another Biller......after an US Biller i used an european Biller. Result? almost more than double $$$ (SignUps)

seven · 03-01-2004, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
after an US Biller i used an european Biller. Result? almost more than double $$$ (SignUps)

That is just so not true.. you don't think that you are the only one on mother earth that tried that kinda shit now do you?

johnbosh · 03-01-2004, 08:41 AM

jimboc · 03-01-2004, 08:45 AM

I personally get great results with verotel. I get payments on time and good sales / conversions, no downtime and good customer service.

spacex · 03-01-2004, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Project-Shadow

That and they process kiddie shite...

show the proof ... or

03-01-2004, 08:56 AM

No problems with Verotel so far

Hentaikid · 03-01-2004, 11:47 AM

I don't know if verotel is going to be around forever. Personally I hope so, as a dutch company inspires more confidence, in me, than one based in Malta like CCbill EU. That's speaking as a European.

Speaking as an affiliate, 1 verotel site I promote converts better than the other 10 ccbill sites I do put together.

My 2c.

Lifer · 03-01-2004, 12:06 PM

That makes me feel some better

Well... I am US but live in Germany... so I understand the worry (for a lack of a better term).

I just wish more people gave straight answers to real questions.

That is the point of this board... right.

Thanks to everyone that gave me a little insight and let me see where I was worrying for nothing.

Now... there is just my outstanding question as to the trustworthyness of Sweet18Girls...

Project-Shadow · 03-01-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by spacex

show the proof ... or

www.christinamodel.com
www.stephimodel.com
www.missymodel.com
www.shannonmodel.com

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stocktrader23 · 03-01-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by seven

That is just so not true.. you don't think that you are the only one on mother earth that tried that kinda shit now do you?

Of course other people tried it but obviously not you. For if you had you'd know that verotel converts a fuckload better than the others.

Lifer · 03-01-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Project-Shadow

www.christinamodel.com
www.stephimodel.com
www.missymodel.com
www.shannonmodel.com

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BLOW ME DICKWAD

Man are you crazY?

I just looked at those sites.

Those girls are as big as Jerseys ( as in milk cows ).

They would definitely have to have at least 20 years to grow boobs that big.

Get some glasses dude.

bdld · 03-01-2004, 12:39 PM

They have their ups and downs but im relatively pleased

Platano · 03-01-2004, 01:24 PM

How can you do well with Verotel offering trial starting at $3.95 and 7 days?

I mean any other processor offer trial for less money and days!

Are you saying that surfers prefer price more expensive?

smit · 03-01-2004, 01:26 PM

i love verotel, i get fat rebills directly deposited on time, all the time. never had a problem!

Rich · 03-01-2004, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacex

show the proof ... or

You want to see CP? Sick fuck.

Rich · 03-01-2004, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow

www.christinamodel.com
www.stephimodel.com
www.missymodel.com
www.shannonmodel.com

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BLOW ME DICKWAD

You're right, that is proof that they're a billing company. Wait, I thought you were talking about something illegal, those chicks have tits the size of my head.

SENSEX · 03-01-2004, 01:34 PM

Verotel has it's issues, their customer service is terrible, and their servers go down more than I like.
the good about them is being EU, chargeback ratio is 2.5% they have no more CB fee's anymore, scrubbing is low, and they pay like clockwork every Monday morning.
Will they be around long term? Truth is nobody really knows, people only speculate. Fact is they follow the laws of their country. They proccess for underage non nude model sites and that upsets people, but the fact remains that this is not illegal to do. People forget very quickly that CCbill made alot of $$$$ proccessing for the same type of sites, and Ibill use to proccess beast and scat sites. And if Visa USA still let them im sure they still would.
So does Verotel suck? Everybody sucks these days.

Platano · 03-01-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Verotel has it's issues, their customer service is terrible, and their servers go down more than I like.
the good about them is being EU, chargeback ratio is 2.5% they have no more CB fee's anymore, scrubbing is low, and they pay like clockwork every Monday morning.
Will they be around long term? Truth is nobody really knows, people only speculate. Fact is they follow the laws of their country. They proccess for underage non nude model sites and that upsets people, but the fact remains that this is not illegal to do. People forget very quickly that CCbill made alot of $$$$ proccessing for the same type of sites, and Ibill use to proccess beast and scat sites. And if Visa USA still let them im sure they still would.
So does Verotel suck? Everybody sucks these days.

Very good points there

VeriSexy · 03-01-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPinPin
I trust absolute NO US Sponsor and NO Us Billing. I tried to use the same traffic and the same pages BUT another Biller......after an US Biller i used an european Biller. Result? almost more than double $$$ (SignUps)

Wow, that's great news to hear

polish_aristocrat · 03-01-2004, 01:44 PM

How can Ibill process for scat sites, aren't they banned by VISA ?

SENSEX · 03-01-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
How can Ibill process for scat sites, aren't they banned by VISA ?

use to proccess for them.

seven · 03-01-2004, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Of course other people tried it but obviously not you. For if you had you'd know that verotel converts a fuckload better than the others.

No, ofcourse not I must be just talking out of my ass lol. Verotel does NOT convert better than ccbill.. they scrub just as much so please put the ding dong away. But that's not to mean Verotel is bad.. saying just not any better than any U.S. proc conversionwise. In fact, I like their on time direct deposits too.

psyko514 · 03-01-2004, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lifer

Man are you crazY?

I just looked at those sites.

Those girls are as big as Jerseys ( as in milk cows ).

They would definitely have to have at least 20 years to grow boobs that big.

Get some glasses dude.

Most, if not all, of those girls are under 18 years old. A girl under 18 can very well have breasts that large. I know a few that do/did.

Regardless, those sites are not illegal.

psyko514 · 03-01-2004, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

No, ofcourse not I must be just talking out of my ass lol. Verotel does NOT convert better than ccbill.. they scrub just as much so please put the ding dong away. But that's not to mean Verotel is bad.. saying just not any better than any U.S. proc conversionwise. In fact, I like their on time direct deposits too.

You must be the first person ever to say Verotel scrubs harder than CCBill.

seven · 03-01-2004, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
You must be the first person ever to say Verotel scrubs harder than CCBill.

You must not be browsing this board hard enough despite your impressive post count # lol otherwise, this is the board where I first heard long before I even used Verotel that they scrubbed just as much as Globill did and we all heard webmasters whining about Globill scrubbing hard too didn't we?.. well that whining certainly didn't stop with Globill but that's besides the point

V_RocKs · 03-01-2004, 11:19 PM

Verotel - Why it works. They make the users passwords and so cracking a password is 99% a waste of time so no one tries. This meens less bandwidth being spend on bruteforcers. So the websites all have insanely low monthy fees. $9-$19 and therefor they are easy as hell to sell. And again, since Verotel makes the passwords, you have to buy the website or you're shit out of luck.

It would be a good idea to use a backup processor. Epoch makes a good one. Secure servers and they take make a big effort in making sure you are secure too.

As for selling Verotel websites. One of their gay sites has made me more money than any other sponsor combined and that is at a $4.50 commission rate. I can make a TGP or mailer or what ever and it sells like mad.

pimplink · 03-02-2004, 12:26 AM

Nah, Verotel didn't suck. I guess so.

spooky181 · 03-02-2004, 01:20 AM

Been using them for over a year now and they have been great..

Verotel · 03-03-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimboc
I personally get great results with verotel. I get payments on time and good sales / conversions, no downtime and good customer service.

Thanks jimboc. See another happy customer.

Verotel · 03-03-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Platano

Very good points there

Here here! Thanks to all of you guys and gals out there that continue to support us and throw in a good word.

We're working on the merchant support issue...just hired two new peeps.

However, anyone reading this board has AT LEAST my e-mail addy and should feel free to use it if you're not getting any response.

Dirty F · 03-03-2004, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow

www.christinamodel.com
www.stephimodel.com
www.missymodel.com
www.shannonmodel.com

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BLOW ME DICKWAD

Wtf? This is the 2nd time someone posted that this week. Those girls are over 18 and non nude. That are not kiddie sites, get a fucking clue.

03-01-2004, 04:47 AM	#1
Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	Does Verotel suck? Okay... I'm new and all.. but it seems to me that many affiliates are worried about getting ripped off. I mean I spent the better part of the last two months promoting sponsors. I just don't think I want to support any sponsor that wants to use an accounting company like Verotel if the do it to hid from the affiliates. I'd rather drop the affiliate and find another good or better site to promote. I have contacted some of the sponsors that I have who use Verotel. They all say it is because of the credit card thingy. I don't trust them. Do you? And CCBill may have had problems... but they are on the right track. So... if you want to me then that's cool __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

03-01-2004, 04:50 AM	#2
hoe_vender Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 2,018	dont know much about them __________________ ICQ #286508534

03-01-2004, 04:55 AM	#4
Anna_O Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,773	No. Verotel doesn't suck. __________________ Fetish by Anna Paysite - Nylons Bondage Latex Lesbians Glamour Annas Dungeon - 70k / day Fetish TGP ICQ 246797915

03-01-2004, 04:57 AM	#5
Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	But you can only see the sales transactions and not clicks. The point of the clicks is to monitor traffic and analysis of your come on. Right? So how can you do that with Verotel? __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

03-01-2004, 06:29 AM	#8
skillfull Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quebec Calisse Posts: 4,716	Verotel still so 1998 :P __________________ mind at underdark dot cc SEO Analyst Thunder-Ball.net - Member

03-01-2004, 06:05 AM	#6
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Verotel's affiliate system seems to be stuck somewhere around 1998. They track "banner clicks" which you can see in My Sales -> Graphical Stats. Program webmasters can see a click-buy ratio for each affiliate, but it looks like the affiliate themselves can't see this important statistic. Useful!

03-01-2004, 06:11 AM	#7
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	sales/graphical stats/ That's where your clicks are Divide clicks by sales to get the ratio - there's a built in calculator in windows

03-01-2004, 07:56 AM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Poeple here don't like Verotel becasue it is an European processor. The sole fact that they are located in another time zone, makes them less trustworthy for US webmasters __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-01-2004, 08:18 AM	#11
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	could be a RISKY one to use.

03-01-2004, 08:21 AM	#12
BigPinPin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 894	I trust absolute NO US Sponsor and NO Us Billing. I tried to use the same traffic and the same pages BUT another Biller......after an US Biller i used an european Biller. Result? almost more than double $$$ (SignUps)

03-01-2004, 08:41 AM	#14
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	cool

03-01-2004, 08:45 AM	#15
jimboc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Internet of course Posts: 1,614	I personally get great results with verotel. I get payments on time and good sales / conversions, no downtime and good customer service. __________________

03-01-2004, 08:56 AM	#17
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	No problems with Verotel so far

03-01-2004, 11:47 AM	#18
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	I don't know if verotel is going to be around forever. Personally I hope so, as a dutch company inspires more confidence, in me, than one based in Malta like CCbill EU. That's speaking as a European. Speaking as an affiliate, 1 verotel site I promote converts better than the other 10 ccbill sites I do put together. My 2c.

03-01-2004, 12:06 PM	#19
Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	That makes me feel some better Well... I am US but live in Germany... so I understand the worry (for a lack of a better term). I just wish more people gave straight answers to real questions. That is the point of this board... right. Thanks to everyone that gave me a little insight and let me see where I was worrying for nothing. Now... there is just my outstanding question as to the trustworthyness of Sweet18Girls... __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

03-01-2004, 12:39 PM	#23
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	They have their ups and downs but im relatively pleased

03-01-2004, 01:24 PM	#24
Platano Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: San Fransisco Posts: 87	How can you do well with Verotel offering trial starting at $3.95 and 7 days? I mean any other processor offer trial for less money and days! Are you saying that surfers prefer price more expensive?

03-01-2004, 01:26 PM	#25
smit Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 387	i love verotel, i get fat rebills directly deposited on time, all the time. never had a problem! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-01-2004, 01:34 PM	#28
SENSEX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Someplace Special Posts: 1,159	Verotel has it's issues, their customer service is terrible, and their servers go down more than I like. the good about them is being EU, chargeback ratio is 2.5% they have no more CB fee's anymore, scrubbing is low, and they pay like clockwork every Monday morning. Will they be around long term? Truth is nobody really knows, people only speculate. Fact is they follow the laws of their country. They proccess for underage non nude model sites and that upsets people, but the fact remains that this is not illegal to do. People forget very quickly that CCbill made alot of $$$$ proccessing for the same type of sites, and Ibill use to proccess beast and scat sites. And if Visa USA still let them im sure they still would. So does Verotel suck? Everybody sucks these days.

03-01-2004, 01:44 PM	#31
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	How can Ibill process for scat sites, aren't they banned by VISA ? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-01-2004, 11:19 PM	#37
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Verotel - Why it works. They make the users passwords and so cracking a password is 99% a waste of time so no one tries. This meens less bandwidth being spend on bruteforcers. So the websites all have insanely low monthy fees. $9-$19 and therefor they are easy as hell to sell. And again, since Verotel makes the passwords, you have to buy the website or you're shit out of luck. It would be a good idea to use a backup processor. Epoch makes a good one. Secure servers and they take make a big effort in making sure you are secure too. As for selling Verotel websites. One of their gay sites has made me more money than any other sponsor combined and that is at a $4.50 commission rate. I can make a TGP or mailer or what ever and it sells like mad.

03-02-2004, 12:26 AM	#38
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	Nah, Verotel didn't suck. I guess so. __________________ Need Mainstream Content and SEO? SEO * Website Copy * Blogs Blogging - PR Work - Forum Marketing - Social Marketing - Link building - Articles 100% Guaranteed Content!

03-02-2004, 01:20 AM	#39
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Been using them for over a year now and they have been great..