CA law defines marriage as a union between a man and woman. Federal law does the same. The mayor of SF does not get to arbitarily redefine marriage.

KRL thinks you do.
Laws only apply to liberals when it works to their advantage.

As a good Christian boy Bush believes in 'til death do us part' so he's soon to BAN divorce and no remarriage til your spouse dies.
Go Get 'em Dubya!

Lie? About what? You think the SSA just arbitrarily decides to make a major policy decision without authorization from the White House?

Get a clue and don't call me a fucking liar ever again.

:BangBang:

Dude you're so off base it's not even funny. People hate Bush because Bush is an ignorant jackass with no morals. This goes for Democrats as well as Republicans, as I know many who don't fall for his bullshit either.

You are 100% right on that point. The SSA is bound by law to follow the "Defense of Marriage Act" authorized & signed into law by the Clinton White House.

:1orglaugh , they haven't revotled yet and they won't americans have no backbone...americans are getting assfucked with no lube and taking it..bush can and will do whateva he wants with NO repercussions..he's a dicator face the reality of the situation

If you don't want to be called a liar, I suggest you stop lying.
It's one thing to have an opinion about something, quite another to bolster it with lies.

Oh, and I'm sure in the "liberal hate Bush" mind you believe he micro manages everything that goes on but in reality, government agencies can follow the law without the president telling it to do so.

Bush is a religious nut.

What country do you live in?

Nothing major happens in Washington DC unless its greenlighted by the White House, especially on an issue as significant as this is.

Nothing.

51- Taliban like laws

Your opinion is not fact...but what is fact...the title to the thread is a lie...at least at this point in time. The title to many of your threads are not backed up by fact...but are in fact...misleading...or just plain BS.

I live in America where the rule of law applies and we look down on lying.
If you'd like to *believe* nothing happends without the whitehouse's involvement, that's fine. calling it fact isn't.

And If it did come from Bush, so what? its upholding the law. something I'm for and you obviously aren't.

I love the fact that you won't comment on it being a law Clinton signed.:1orglaugh

That's going to make for a lot of new tension against the gays.

Sort of like in boot camp how if one guy fucks up, everyone pays....
and the guy who fucks up gets hurt.

People are going to be flaming mad over this... on both sides.

Sort of an interesting play by the gov.

bush is a bitch

As if Bush is known to honor laws his predecessors signed :) Give me a break. You know full well that Bush is a religious nut who believes that being gay is a sin and who'll do anything in his power to stop gays from having equal rights. For him, being gay is against nature and God's will.

crazy i live in SF

itsgunna be a hectic here

I truly believe that KRL is one of the most intelligent guys on the board. He is more than intelligent enough to realize that his anti-bush threads get him a lot of sig views from both sides of the political spectrum. :winkwink:

KRL,

What does CA law say on the issue? What does Federal law say on the issue?

Do you think that the SSA should follow the SF mayor's lead and violate both?

Actually its about a bit more than change one's name on a SS card. Marriage is not the only way to effect a name change on your SS card.

What Bush is ACTUALLY doing is preventing anyone from claiming SSA benefits on behalf of their now legal spouse.

In short if you marry in San Francisco and 1 month later your spouse dies you dont get a single penny from the SSA. Dont be fooled, its more than the mere blocking of a name change!

Eh? He's the Republicans dream candidate. A puppet controlled by the conservative religious right who's unable to have a thought on his own.

as is usual for you you have no facts to back up your posts. just beliefs.

hahahahaha, one minute he's micro managing everything (KRLs post) Now he's a puppet.

see how silly your arguments become?:1orglaugh

um, that should read "illegal spouse"

right, its bocking single people from dipping into SSa money that they aren't entitled to.:thumbsup

He's a micro-managing puppet :winkwink:

It's going to be so EMBARRASSING when he beats the democratic gimps again isn't it?

Yea, even more so when he shows up at some republican porn-slinger's (that's the biggest oxymoron ever) door saying thanks for the campaign contribution, now put both hands behind your back.

12 Clicks----

Surely you've heard these words. "By the power invested in me by the State of __________.........." The authority to marry is given to each state. The marriage certificates issued in CA are in fact legal. So try reading it again the way i wrote it. :thumbsup


Lets not forget that his order to the SSA applies to straight people recently married in SF too. Although i reckon that isn't a problem since there are several outlying counties around SF that CAN issue recognized certificates to STRAIGHT couples.

Damn! You just keep scrambling eggs. Fact is a fact, fact is not a fact but if it is to become a fact then the title of the board would become a fact but not a fact at this point of time.. better put huh? :Graucho

That's all you got?

:1orglaugh

Maybe I should vote for one of those porn loving Democrats or Nader....

You haven't read CA law in awhile have you?

They are not legal.

Not based on state law and not based on federal law.

California state law outlaws gay marriage too.
you should stop arguing. its getting embarrassing.


Yes, and the strait couples this effects should sue the City for breaking the law and causing them needless problems.

Yea really no kidding! So how much SSA money they'd be dipping into again? Yeah? That much? Oh fuck! The world is crumbling down! I was really looking forward to SSA to pay my McDonalds bill :1orglaugh

Broke and 12Clicks ---


Do you live in CA? Again its state authority and so far the highest court in the State says they can continue to issue them. Doubt they would do that if they weren't legal.

Enough going back and forth. Obviously you will never understand what i am saying. I thought i expressed myself clearly the first time. Make sure you dont vote. :winkwink:

you and quite a few others I know...


:thumbsup

Hey! You forgot? 12clicks is THE supremest court of CA :winkwink:

Bush just lost the vote of 10 % of the population . I'm happy he does cauz if he's back in the white house he will ass rape every americans so bad during the next 4 years !

No -- does it bother you that I know more about the law in CA than you do when you live in the state?

The state Supreme Court didn't say they could be issued... they said the would not issue an immediate halt to their issue...

Two different things.

I'm happy with every decisions that bush will loose votes with