some interesting points.

i love me

what he said...

That's cool - just keep sending me my money and you think what you like

My take is that on the boards PD is a total asshole. However, whenever someone asks a question about his business, himself or a representative are very cordial even during a flame from the posts I have read.

In regards to the drama threads, it is my decision to read and participate. Half the time, I think the threads are made up for our enjoyment. This place is like an interactive soap opera.

Will his marketing tactics earn everyone?s respect?I doubt it. But, I lose more respect for the females who post their pussies, boobs or blowjob pics to entice a webmaster to send traffic to their program...JMO.

Agreed, also in email and icq they are all very helpful

1 word- SMART

if you dont like his marketing methods who really cares? he doesn't and he doesn't need to as any kind of exposure is usally good and better than none at all :thumbsup

Donovan I don't know you from a hole in the ground but I have feelings that flow the same way. I have a hard time getting around the whole idea. I remember back when I started in this biz the best way to get some affiliates into your program was start a pissing match with serge or brad. It was good to get a bunch of small people into your program and some exposure. Since then my feelings on it have changed. There are alot of people read these boards who are heavy hitters who have never and will never post. Some of these people will read these posts and while the exposure might get a few here and there into a program on the whole they tend to shy away from these kind of tactics... I think the most important thing to remember when useing these tactics is the 90/10 rule... 90% of your affiliates who signup will never send a signup... and out of the remainder of them 90% of your joins will come from 10% of them. But also almost all of your problems will come from the 90% of them who don't send shit. Who are the people who yell and complain on the boards when a check is a couple days late? It's small webmasters. Personally I would rather have a half dozen large affiliates who know what they are doing than 1,000 little ones who bitch and complain. Large affiliates build there own ads, they call you up when there is a problem, they care about the welfare of you and your program cause it directly affects them.

just my 2 cents for the day.

newbies = new blood

new blood = agressive hard working men/women trying to succeed

inturn, some will fail, some wont

out of the ones that dont fail, there are a few that will get a great idea and capitalize on it.

point is, look at the loyal affiliates with ARS.... they have thier ups and down just like anyone, but they keep the loyal affiliates for the most part..

when a newbie comes to the biz, 9 times out of 10, they are told togo to ARS cause they have extensive tools to help anyone make a buck..

that being said, the 1st sponsor you promote(if they converts and are not shady) you will most liley stick with..

and establishing a long term relationship.

im not interested in the vetrans, i want the newbies...

i hope i made my point, and i am also drunk as shit

I can't speak for others, but my second time around jumping into this biz, I started pushing WEGCash. I converted well with them, they had great support and they communicated well with me. I had them in my sig for at least 6 months, and I still send traffic to them.

Very good tips, never give up :thumbsup

I think he mainly attracts noobs with his "childish" actions.

But he got style....
TT-Style.... (Trailer Trash Style) :thumbsup

some good tips u got there