and gained dozens.

anyone who leaves epic cash and decides not to make money simply because pimpdogg is talking trash on a message forum is a fool.

I dunno about this guy...

He says its just board shit, mabe I read to much into things maybe its all contrived drama...

The problem with him an AMP is interesting. PimpDogg has said some crazy way over the top crap.
I do hope it is all phony contrived drama shit maybe it is maybe it is not but the posts of utter disparagement, the posts are psychotic at the least of any type descritpion.

I wouldnt do business with em. I thought about I openned communications and set up the ball then changed my mind after reading his "Personality" on the boards.

In my book an aspect of an individual is present no matter what personality they portray publicly. Thats simple. You cant think of shit and just spout off without the mind that puts the hat on err rather "Personality" on the boards. Bottom line it is an aspect of the individual.

Pimpdoggs aspect as an individual is psychotic without relent on individuals that question him. Fuck the questions fuck what ever people have to say or think.. Who gives a shit but when its gets weird disparaging family, friends, and loved ones and attempting to get underskin with flagrant disregard for anyone or anythings feelings...

Thats appaling to say the least.
GOd hope that all he does is just show including the dispute with Amp and others on GFY.

Major character flaw emminating from this individual and what the fuck...

Bottom line...
WHO CARES REALLY, until someone is really hurt by this freak publicly.

god damn dude :1orglaugh

Id say that his program is quite nice and it does convert well. The whole stats thing was kinda weird but besides that good shit man. :thumbsup

pimpernickel is a homo

pimpdog is a idiot :321GFY

LMAO

Pimpdogg is the greatest man in the adult industry. He must have a Master's in Business from Harvard. I am astounded and amazed at his level of maturity, his intellect, his marketing genius....


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


(thought I'd try comedy)

another one that gets it....

the whole amp vs pd thing - barely scanned it. just looked like more of the usual.

i guess my question (being more specific) is whether or not what he is doing, is effective in a positive way (overall) with regard to his current business growth/success. considering all the signs.

not whether you are personally offended or whatever. anyway, i find it quite interesting.

you still upset about the kiddie porn thing with dave stodghill??

man you are a werido

Its simple for me I guess...
I do not care if what ever someone does is successful!
I can make money in many many many places in many different ways.
I do everyday.

In all honesty I get my first ping in business via the boards, I see an individual I like I hit em up and see where I can fit in.

His program is not the end all.
Infact in my opinion is that the prgram is outdated by a year technology wise. Sure thats shit talkin but hey thats the boards...

As for positive influence publicly...
Its a clear no.

What, pray tell, is a werido?

AlienQ just personified the type of person I mentioned in the other thread. He realizes that many other programs offer just as good or better sites with just as good or better payouts.

Here's a repost from the other thread:

Pimpdogg: every site you offer has competitors with just as good or better sites, and just as good or better pay outs.

If you have not yet learned the value of relationships you undoubtedly will in the not too distant future.

You and I both know that your presence on this board is tolerated because you spend $$ to advertise here. If you didn't spend the money, you would be banned permanently.

The affiliates that are attracted to your style are the broke guys living at home with momma that still think the latest TOP 10 music is cool, and still prefer to speak the latest slang instead of English like the rest of us. That crowd is very fickle. They'll turn on you in a second.

The long term webmasters that you can actually count on are a little more difficult to land. It takes good people skills and more maturity.

You'll learn. In time, you'll learn.

taking the time to answer, shows you have at least some interest. i'm always facinated by ways and means to success.

how do you figure? unless you mis-understood me.

Hes doing good:thumbsup

That's the part I want to emphasize most.

I'm off again.

I'll check back in a few hours to see how many people still live at home with momma and push Pimps programs.

it's like a weirdo, but even more weird.

this board is based on drama... the more you bring.. the more popular you are... hell... some people's sigs are suppose to be worth $8000 because of it !!!

100

Most business has some aspect of the 80/20 rule. And the only downside I see to Pimpdog's antics is that the more serious and mature 20% ers are not going to sign up for something they are nervous about.

Sleazy wore his t-shirt and took his money but does he send traffic?
Does Cecash or one of the majors trade traffic?

Those are the questions I think that would let us know if he is being hurt by this stuff.

If they are then more power to ya.

definitely gets in your face, but does draw attention.

Everybody reads his posts! Lots of people don't like him but i noticed the less popular the more rich! :2 cents:

Well we all agree that the publicity is of value but good and bad publicity... There is a difference. A marked difference.

You can have a personality of say Rob Black or Jenna Jameson. Both are personalities, both are products that sell there personalities well but in all honesty I would rather make a buck with Jenna however there are those that will pass a buck with Black.

People like Howard Stern, people love to hate em also thats where the term any publicity is good publicity holds true however just a note Stern has lost advertisers. He has had his problems, he has said outrageous things and done outrageous things but truth is it all has hit his bottom line in some parts during the course of his path.

:2 cents:

yep

i am not going to sit here and name names.... thats not my place.. but you would be suprised

i love this part..

he lost advertisers as i have.. and where there is 1 that wont promote you there are 10 more that will. you dont get it.

Well there you go.

Paysite world is pretty much about those traffic trades from what I hear.

:thumbsup

to me, his methods obviously work well for him and his program, but i think the real question is how many people can pull it off. :)

That is what I have wondered... 62 webmaster sign ups a day means nothing if they're all like Oracle Porn... if I had an affiliate program then I'd want to surround myself with a handful of loyal heavy hitters rather than hundreds of 2-sales-a-day types.

i suppose what i'm getting at is not good or bad publicity. i'm simply trying to look at things from a purely profit-driven perspective.

aggressive (to say the least) posting on gfy - costs to advertising to keep unbanned = growth of business. if it wasn't working, he wouldn't continue to keep paying.

this is obviously not my (nor most others) style (hell, i have absolutely nothing to promote here, regardless).

yet i still find it interesting how many haters one can have, and still appear to be moving in a forward/growth direction. like has been said before, brad shaw did something similar years earlier.

just interesting to watch :)

i guess you will never know..

you didnt even read my post with the screen cap.

mr philips is only assuming these things. he has no facts, he doesnt see my stats or pay my bills.

until he does, then he is just another lamer on gfy running his mouth.

200 2 sale a day webmasters is 400 signups. If he only nets $5 per sign up that is 730k a year.

Where can I find 200 2 sale a day types???? hmmmm

I think the p1mpdog is revealed right there.

Well, I've said my p1mpdogg piece before, so I guess everyone who matters knows. But to reiterate: although very effective, I think that his marketing technique is a short-term thing. Protracted over too long a period of time, it will backfire: over-saturation, over-exposure, over-p1mped, whatever you call it, it's too much.

On the other hand, Trey is sharp. He knows what he's doing, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's added the above to his calculations, in which case he's just riding this horse until it drops under him.

Personally, I despise this type of tactic. On the other hand, the exposure works, and I did finally sign up to check out whether Epic Cash is all that it's cracked up to be, or just hype. It's too soon to tell, as I haven't really sent anything major in the line of traffic. What I can say is that Epic Mail is consistantly converting at 1:7 for me so far, which is pretty damned exceptional.

I'm on the verge of sending a shitload of traffic to Epic's PPS program. I'm hopeful.

i love this part..

Well its simple dude...
Ya lost advertisers...

What can you do...

Well for starters ya could have came off and lost none!:1orglaugh

The difference is your not accounting for the money you lost.
You can't, and you will never know the difference.

Howard Stern could have got a great sponsor like Microsoft or ORACLE but instead advertised Trojan condoms and cheap car washes...

But why didnt those companies do business with em?
The minute agenda of Howard Stern overlooked what could have been...
And lost money.

The public profile of acceptance is wider for Microsoft or Oracle than Trojan condoms. Getting it yet?

There's no such thing as bad publicity :)

If you really, TRUELY, believe that, we won't see too many more posts from you

You might want to pick a different parallel Howard Stern is the most successful DJ in history. Love him or hate him he made tons of $$$.

it's converting at 1:2 for me and has been since it opened. nobody can say that isn't phenomenal.

hehe, well there you go :)