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Old 02-23-2004, 09:21 PM   #1
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Bye Bye ARS

Wow ARS has just gone from having one of the larges selections of sites to promote to one of the smallest. They dumped every single site they had and now only have a handfull of reality sites and a pay per click "For Mature Audiences" site.
Time to say goodbye!!!
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:25 PM   #2
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Good things might come out of this, but right now it feels like... Well, nothing really.
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:26 PM   #3
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interesting for sure

big shake up!
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:30 PM   #5
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they might be slow to change, but they've got loads of traffic and money.

and i'm not happy the direction they are going (because they are finally moving into a (our) space that doesn't have much competition).

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they had only 5 back ends and hundreds of front ends
I can't understand how they ever kept the %1 c/b...or did they?

Times changed...

They got some nice reality sites.... if they give some nice content, good prices for the surfers they can turn to be the best affiliate program...
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yea, i'm really disapointed in the VERY small areas to promote, basicly reality sites only.
Also it appears that if you want to refer webmasters you have to submit every url you will be sending traffic from, I thought that went out years ago.
And they even screwed up the BYOT, now you have to create a members area and update it yourself.
AANNNNDDDD they are forwarding all the hits from their old sites to the new "For Mature Audinces Only" site, so far on 1000 clicks I've made almost a whole dollar!!!
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Sad to see this happen. I convert 1:60 with one of their sites.

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I can't understand how they ever kept the %1 c/b...or did they?

Times changed...

They got some nice reality sites.... if they give some nice content, good prices for the surfers they can turn to be the best affiliate program...
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Sad to see this happen. I convert 1:60 with one of their sites.

well it doesn't really work like that anymore.....
no one can pay you $35 per signup and not retain....

their strategy is like blind links that cost money... if someone promised me X in the tour and I got Y in the members area I would be pissed as fuck.

I never thought it was a good idea to have 1,000,000 tours....
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I'm only doing 500-600 dollars a month with them now, But 2 years ago I was doing over 4,000 dollars a month and if they had pulled this then I'd have lost my mind!!
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:40 PM   #14
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The only good thing in the new ARS is better websites.

But they lowered payouts by $10

I think those new sites would convert better than the old ones, but not better enough to compensate for so much lower payouts.
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I think it is time to cover this "dinosaur" with dirt. It is dead, and it is really starting to smell BAD.
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I'm only doing 500-600 dollars a month with them now, But 2 years ago I was doing over 4,000 dollars a month and if they had pulled this then I'd have lost my mind!!
Dude, like I said times have changed.
Last june I was making $150 - $300 per 1k tgp traffic....
If I make $100 now I'm a happy camper.
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where are you getting your information from?

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The only good thing in the new ARS is better websites.

But they lowered payouts by $10

I think those new sites would convert better than the old ones, but not better enough to compensate for so much lower payouts.
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I think it is time to cover this "dinosaur" with dirt. It is dead, and it is really starting to smell BAD.
Hey there Matt.... I may have to agree with you, they sure have taken a HUGE step backwards and took alot of our money with them. Thankfully I learned along time ago not to keep all me eggs in one basket.
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Hey there Matt.... I may have to agree with you, they sure have taken a HUGE step backwards and took alot of our money with them. Thankfully I learned along time ago not to keep all me eggs in one basket.
I think they might have backed right off the edge with this step back though.
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http://www.ars4real.com

Earn a flat rate on each signup. The Pay Per Signup program pays $25-$30 for any type of signup made to any of the approved reality paysites in our portfolio.
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mmm, they had 1000's of webmasters right? maybe they noticed that there were millions of advertisements created by their webmasters and uploaded on free hosts here and there spidered on search engines and etc, getting tons of sign ups when combined. $ that coulda been avoided to be sent out, so they decided to, "reset" the business and keep the $?

I dont know, i am just guessing.

i havent used them in a lonnnggg time.
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One would think that instead of bashing ARS for taking what are very logical steps to get to this point, you would all stop and think about what other sponsors may do to deal with their situations.

This is not a Visa thing either, I'll bet.
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One would think that instead of bashing ARS for taking what are very logical steps to get to this point, you would all stop and think about what other sponsors may do to deal with their situations.

This is not a Visa thing either, I'll bet.
if its not the visa thing its the money they made PER SURFER.
They wouldn't reset their whole biz strategy just because they have too much time on their hands.
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if its not the visa thing its the money they made PER SURFER.
They wouldn't reset their whole biz strategy just because they have too much time on their hands.
So if it is the money they made per surfer then do you think they are alone?
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One would think that instead of bashing ARS for taking what are very logical steps to get to this point, you would all stop and think about what other sponsors may do to deal with their situations.

This is not a Visa thing either, I'll bet.
Your right I should be thankful that they have removed every site of theirs that I have spent 4 years building sites to promote. Heck I should even jump with joy that the 6 BYOT sites I bought content for and designed are now being removed.
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AANNNNDDDD they are forwarding all the hits from their old sites to the new "For Mature Audinces Only" site, so far on 1000 clicks I've made almost a whole dollar!!!
They havent redirected any traffic already, right? Just on the exit console?
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Your right I should be thankful that they have removed every site of theirs that I have spent 4 years building sites to promote. Heck I should even jump with joy that the 6 BYOT sites I bought content for and designed are now being removed.
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It seems to me most webmasters were getting tired of ARS's random supermarket of front ends to promote. How many programs have blown up in the past two years with that approach? Not many if any at all. Programs with a handful of real quality sites with exclusive (or pseudo-exclusive) content have been taking away their traffic.

Sure, ARS probably has the most webmasters but the clicks couldn't have been coming like they used to. There's just no way. But now, with this new approach featuring better sites and no more prehistoric style tours that definitely kept folks like me away, along with the tons of perks ARS offers I think they are worth another look.

I haven't sent them a click since 2001. I think I might send some more now and see how they are converting.
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The BYOT situation is kinda sad though. People did put a lot of energy into that.
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Got my first 4 REAL sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The BYOT situation is kinda sad though. People did put a lot of energy into that.
Read about their new BYOT, looks even better and I know most people who made BYOT sites will easily be able to convert those old tours into the new system.

At least that is what Marc De is saying.
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Lol, as soon as a mod sees his sig, they'll fix it for him
is it THAT bad???
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So if it is the money they made per surfer then do you think they are alone?
Yes, they had 1000's of boyts promissing pizza and delivering sausage.
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http://stats.adrevservice.com/publis...uct/bcodes.php
The below is said on that page above.
"To achieve these results, we will stop traffic that is going to the current sites in the portfolio and provide three new programs to send that traffic to. "

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My sales have seemed to all of the sudden stop tonight with ars. Did they stop the traffic already?? Anyone seeing sales stop?
Maybe im just having a bad few hours.... hope so.
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Now that is a good example of how fast this change is working out.

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Now that is a good example of how fast this change is working out.

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Read about their new BYOT, looks even better and I know most people who made BYOT sites will easily be able to convert those old tours into the new system.

At least that is what Marc De is saying.
Actually you HAVE to use ARS content, you are not allowed to use you own, which means you have to totally redsign your tour
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It sounds like the new BYOT is actually going to be a pseudo-AVS... built with their content and hosted on their servers. We're just "contractors" hired to build the actual sites.

Make sense?
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Actually you HAVE to use ARS content, you are not allowed to use you own
Not true... you can use your own content providing it is exclusive and you license it to whatever company ARS is using to host the CHAMP sites.
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Well, let me say not surprising.
I was sending traffic to indiaxposed.com 18 months before ARS released indiaexposed.com

I was sending traffic to balloon sites 15 months before ARS got their balloon sites and that is just a small sample.

http://www.hardcoredollars.com seem to come up with niches 1 or 2 years before the major players.

They are now strictly on revshare, but big deal. When my traffic stops, my income doesn't. It's been 7 months since I have sent traffic to some sites and I am still getting my checks, so for long term benefits, nothing beats revshare.

Check out http://www.hardcoredollars.com if anyone has specific traffic they do not want to loose
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Got my first 4 REAL sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Internet Hookups rules!!
Got my 2nd 4 Real sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry I won't post each sale I get from now on!!

This time it was for Fucked For Free < the damn chicks look HOTT on that site! 2 chicks in every scene it looks like.
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One would think that instead of bashing ARS for taking what are very logical steps to get to this point, you would all stop and think about what other sponsors may do to deal with their situations.

This is not a Visa thing either, I'll bet.
As usual, KK speaks wise words.

Definitely interesting to note... ARS' shift may be the Cassandra that people do not wish to heed until the Big One hits.
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I think ARS knows what they're doing. Pl.us the new sites look great!!
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WOW!!!!! Interesting....wonder why? We love coming up with new sites (AND content) and keep up the variety to fit everyones fetish...and to provide a niche for all kinds of traffic...again, wonder why they dropped all those sites? Anyone find out...please post here....
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