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Old 02-23-2004, 11:38 PM   #51
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:43 PM   #52
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Yes, they had 1000's of boyts promissing pizza and delivering sausage.
Just like every other program out there I'll bet, at least the big ones.
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:29 AM   #53
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This is gonna piss alot of people off for sure, guess some of those sites just werent working on their end
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:31 AM   #54
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Well I may be able to shed some light for those who like the byot system. We have just launched up one of the highest paying byot systems over at professorcash!
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:40 AM   #55
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:31 AM   #56
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ive always fucking said it
ARS was really bad for this industry since they started
i realized that the first time i entered their members area

me - thinking and a members - would have felt fucked hard by second 1


it was time for them to close their traditional doors
they should have done that a week after they started

now the "redirecting part" is the worst shit ive seen
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:40 AM   #57
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I'm only doing 500-600 dollars a month with them now, But 2 years ago I was doing over 4,000 dollars a month and if they had pulled this then I'd have lost my mind!!
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:44 AM   #58
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ive always fucking said it
ARS was really bad for this industry since they started
i realized that the first time i entered their members area

me - thinking and a members - would have felt fucked hard by second 1


it was time for them to close their traditional doors
they should have done that a week after they started

now the "redirecting part" is the worst shit ive seen
Interesting comments Trax.
Which "big programs" do you think are doing things the right way and have good, solid members' areas?

I'm just curious of your opinion is all.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:29 AM   #59
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Interesting comments Trax.
Which "big programs" do you think are doing things the right way and have good, solid members' areas?

I'm just curious of your opinion is all.
nasty dollars.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:05 AM   #60
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mmm, they had 1000's of webmasters right? maybe they noticed that there were millions of advertisements created by their webmasters and uploaded on free hosts here and there spidered on search engines and etc, getting tons of sign ups when combined. $ that coulda been avoided to be sent out, so they decided to, "reset" the business and keep the $?

I dont know, i am just guessing.

i havent used them in a lonnnggg time.
Methinks a wise man has spoken in this post above.

Do the math people - that is an awful lot of bling if you calculate even 50 sites over 2000 webmasters at 10-20 clicks per day...

Funny no-one from ARS is here to give us the PR spin..

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Old 02-24-2004, 05:17 AM   #61
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Looks sort of like what Topbucks did. They kept their old sites but just moved to all the new ones being reality. The rest of the structure is similar to as far as trial price etc.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:59 AM   #62
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:41 AM   #63
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Interesting comments Trax.
Which "big programs" do you think are doing things the right way and have good, solid members' areas?

I'm just curious of your opinion is all.
Braincash
Our member area are quite good and we got now 35$ per signup and direct join page link is available on request... just in case someone would be interested
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:07 PM   #64
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Seems to be pretty mixed feeling on this. I guess thats normal with such a large change as this. Now that everyone has had a chance to let it settle in what is your opinion, Good or Bad ?
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:16 PM   #65
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ive always fucking said it
ARS was really bad for this industry since they started
i realized that the first time i entered their members area

me - thinking and a members - would have felt fucked hard by second 1


it was time for them to close their traditional doors
they should have done that a week after they started

now the "redirecting part" is the worst shit ive seen
9 out of 10 members areas from the from the pps programs suck balls.
Alot of plugin crap.... poor quality streams... and hardly any downloadable movies.
The only reason most programs have recurring members is because those members forgot to cancel.
It seems like this is a good move from ARS.
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:24 PM   #66
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:10 PM   #67
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Here a nice calculation someone made concerning the champ program:

"I believe we get 1 rewards point and 5 content points for every sale that another webmaster makes to our tours. Then we get 10 content points for each rebill. We'd have to get 100 sales to get enough rewards points to buy one scene. And we'd have to get 20 sales to get enough content points to buy one scene. If we wanted to pay cash, one content point is 50 cents, which means $50 for one scene. I can't see many webmasters shelling out $50 per month for each CHAMP tour for updates if their tour isn't even making 20 sales a month to net them 100 content points for the update."

I have 8 byots in all, and with this content price rate, they will be used/moved somewhere else. I find this atrocious, and it spelled profits on our back from the content provider or ARS (I am not sure i care who is doing what here). I will cope with the reality sites, although i don't find it to be a reinvention, far from there...it will last a couple of years. But the champ program is made for some rich elite webmasters, obviously. I am not exactely poor, but not exactely foolish or stupid enouph to risk everything on content providing.

Someone was talking about Topbucks, well...at least they kept their niches sites. The PPC situation isn't something i love either. ARS was my number 2 sponsors, and all i have to say is that, in the present state they will see the bottom of that list.

Revshare was great idea to start with.

But the replacement of BYOT doesn't look so great after close examinations. I hope they proove me wrong in that department, but i doubt they will let go because there will be webmasters willing to pay those insane prices.
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:10 PM   #68
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:14 PM   #69
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Old 02-24-2004, 11:40 PM   #70
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they might be slow to change, but they've got loads of traffic and money.

and i'm not happy the direction they are going (because they are finally moving into a (our) space that doesn't have much competition).

keep posting those stats....
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:22 AM   #71
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Don't worry I won't post each sale I get from now on!!

This time it was for Fucked For Free < the damn chicks look HOTT on that site! 2 chicks in every scene it looks like.
what the fuck does that have to do with this thread??
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:23 AM   #72
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That's why the renewed focus on CONTENT by Marc De and the folks at ARS.

2004: The Year of Content.

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9 out of 10 members areas from the from the pps programs suck balls.
Alot of plugin crap.... poor quality streams... and hardly any downloadable movies.
The only reason most programs have recurring members is because those members forgot to cancel.
It seems like this is a good move from ARS.
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:29 AM   #73
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9 out of 10 members areas from the from the pps programs suck balls.
Alot of plugin crap.... poor quality streams... and hardly any downloadable movies.
The only reason most programs have recurring members is because those members forgot to cancel.
It seems like this is a good move from ARS.
indeed
a wise boy told me once: "The biggest income of this industry comes from people forgetting"

you know who you are

thats what this industry is about
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:30 AM   #74
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:56 AM   #75
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they should done that years before. their members area are one of the worst and tours are pretty much all the same. BYOT has helped for a while, but that couldn't last forever.
maybe we'll see good real content from ARS???
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