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Old 02-23-2004, 10:52 AM   #51
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A few questions...

- Do you got ID's and model release from Paris Hilton?
- Where is Xpays located?
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Old 02-23-2004, 10:53 AM   #52
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Very true. And if she wants to keep being the conniving slut she cant offer the tape. Its time for them to toss around some legal muscle to keep things "taboo". Paris as an attention whore as well will need this to keep this from fizzling out.
So why cant everybody just sell the tape and start a affilate program? Its obvious she isnt going to do anything.. What else if there to stop it? Please enlighten me.
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Old 02-23-2004, 10:54 AM   #53
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that's awesome, but it's gonna get saturated in about 2 weeks
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Old 02-23-2004, 10:55 AM   #54
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So why cant everybody just sell the tape and start a affilate program? Its obvious she isnt going to do anything.. What else if there to stop it? Please enlighten me.
I know a few guys doing that already...
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Old 02-23-2004, 10:56 AM   #55
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Go to trustfundgirls.com and try to find the words "paris hilton"

Welcome to the wonderful world of legal loopholes..
So can I take the tape and make a site called "Dumb rich bitch girls" lol
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So can I take the tape and make a site called "Dumb rich bitch girls" lol
Theres's 2 people in the video. Make it "Dumb rich girl and dumber lucky guy" and you'll be just fine
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:01 AM   #57
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Theres's 2 people in the video. Make it "Dumb rich girl and dumber lucky guy" and you'll be just fine
I forgot about him.. So what can happen if you compete agaisnt his site he can go after YOU because he is on there..
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:14 AM   #58
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If you have it, you're not showing it. Some webmasters may believe your crap, but the ones that have PH since Nov. will just laugh and keep doing what makes them money.

If having a clue is promoting adstats... lol, cant stop... laughing...

Sure, ok - then I'm clueless because YOU say so ... whatever.

I've got NO vested interest in THIS deal ... just happy some people I've made a TON of $$$ with over the last 5 years do!


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Old 02-23-2004, 11:20 AM   #59
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Sure, ok - then I'm clueless because YOU say so ... whatever.

I've got NO vested interest in THIS deal ... just happy some people I've made a TON of $$$ with over the last 5 years do!


No, you're clueless because you said this:

"This shit hasn't been able to be promoted in over a month because Adstats disappeared!"

And that is fucking clueless!
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:24 AM   #60
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A few questions...

- Do you got ID's and model release from Paris Hilton?
- Where is Xpays located?
XPAYS is located in Northern California

Regarding releses - The best answer I have for you is that ... I think this AVN article sums it up best:



When asked whether he was concerned that Paris Hilton might come after XPays as she had another Website that was preparing to offer the tape for sale, and after Rick Salomon himself, he responded, ?XPays is quite confident that we are not putting our heads on the chopping block.? When asked whether XPays would be complying with, and require its affiliates to comply with, U.S.C. 2257 Federal labeling requirements, he replied,?Of course XPays will comply with U.S.C. 2257 requirements.?
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:28 AM   #62
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No, you're clueless because you said this:

"This shit hasn't been able to be promoted in over a month because Adstats disappeared!"

And that is fucking clueless!
Oy Vey ... so you're arrogance and gloating is based on semantics?

Great ... so the VAST MAJORITY OF LEGITIMATE WEBMASTERS that don't have the "hook up" with "YOUR PEOPLE" have not been able to promote it for over a month!

Better?

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XPAYS is located in Northern California

Regarding releses - The best answer I have for you is that ... I think this AVN article sums it up best:



When asked whether he was concerned that Paris Hilton might come after XPays as she had another Website that was preparing to offer the tape for sale, and after Rick Salomon himself, he responded, ?XPays is quite confident that we are not putting our heads on the chopping block.? When asked whether XPays would be complying with, and require its affiliates to comply with, U.S.C. 2257 Federal labeling requirements, he replied,?Of course XPays will comply with U.S.C. 2257 requirements.?
To comply with 2257 you need a id and model release on Paris, do you have that its a yes or no type of question not a read some paragraph and guess the answer type of question.
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:33 AM   #64
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To comply with 2257 you need a id and model release on Paris, do you have that its a yes or no type of question not a read some paragraph and guess the answer type of question.
Lighten up, ok?

I answered to the best of my knowledge

As I mentioned a few posts back I've got NO vested interest in THIS deal ... just happy some people I've made a TON of $$$ with over the last 5 years do!


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Old 02-23-2004, 11:34 AM   #65
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:35 AM   #66
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:39 AM   #67
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Great ... so the VAST MAJORITY OF LEGITIMATE WEBMASTERS that don't have the "hook up" with "YOUR PEOPLE" have not been able to promote it for over a month!

Better?

My people are in my sig if you have paris traffic, click it and make $40 instead of $10. Noone needs the flashy adstats site to convert this shit.

And another tip. Adstats was by invite only. I was invited and sent some traffic until someone exposed them on GFY. That was the program that required you to "hook up" with "some people", and it was worthless. So the vast majority of legitimate webmasters never used adstats! If you need more clues, just ask.
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My people are in my sig if you have paris traffic, click it and make $40 instead of $10. Noone needs the flashy adstats site to convert this shit.

And another tip. Adstats was by invite only. I was invited and sent some traffic until someone exposed them on GFY. That was the program that required you to "hook up" with "some people", and it was worthless. So the vast majority of legitimate webmasters never used adstats! If you need more clues, just ask.
Wow you really schooled me, Tuga

LOL

I'll call JB and let him know what a great affiliate you are, I'm sure he'll be happy!

BTW - Thanks for clue-ing me in!

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if you have paris traffic, click it and make $40 instead of $10. Noone needs the flashy adstats site to convert this shit.

Actually, IF YOU HAVE ANY PARIS TRAFFIC you'd be an ass for believing that WITHOUT testing ... but it's your business!

... and just to reiterate ... this is not adstats or invite only either!

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Old 02-23-2004, 12:20 PM   #70
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with $10 payout it excludes the majority (if not all) of paid traffic purchases. There's no profit margin at ten bucks. Tell this Rick guy, the only way to get it all over is by having $25-30 payouts.
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Only time will tell, I see my referrals going up every hour since I made this post, and that's a GREAT indicator to me that SOME webmasters are SMART enough to ACTUALLY TEST!

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... been quite an interesting day to say the least!

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Only time will tell, I see my referrals going up every hour since I made this post, and that's a GREAT indicator to me that SOME webmasters are SMART enough to ACTUALLY TEST!

Are you getting $0.1 per sale from your referals?
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Actually, IF YOU HAVE ANY PARIS TRAFFIC you'd be an ass for believing that WITHOUT testing ... but it's your business!

... and just to reiterate ... this is not adstats or invite only either!

I was talking about the adstats site, it was very explicit and probably converting better than anything else. And I tested it.


And your friends site... when it's ready, I'll look at it, and I'll probably send some traffic there. If it converts more than 4 times better than what I'm doing now... I may use it. But I doubt a $50 sale will do that.
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Congrats J$tyle$ and Evan Xpays....at least your getting the webmasters to talk about this event whether positive or negative, in these times thats pretty remarkable in itself.

You have given them a great business opportunity, and I am certain they are grateful.....

Make a million on the girls babee.
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Are you getting $0.1 per sale from your referals?
Yeah, buddy!

I'm hoping to make enough for a cup of coffe from Starbucks by mid March

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So fucking pathetic how many hatters post on this board...

Congrats Evan and Michael! I do hope this works out as planned for you boys~














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What I havent seen in the mainstream press is anything about Paris Hilton herself being in on this Trustfundgirls site. Xpays getting involved in this tells me alot. They are getting national scrutiny and would be fools to go forward without model releases. If Paris didnt sign on, all it would take is some gentle prodding to the FBI by the Hilton family and that would be the end of this show for Xpays. This tells me that Paris is getting a piece of the action.

I remember when this trustfundgirls site launched and my wife said to me, "Paris must be so embarrassed". Riiiiight. No, she is in on this I told her. The way to tell is to watch and see if the lawsuits fly, as well as pressure from the Feds over documentation. No lawsuits/ no Feds means she is in on this. Her spin doctors are doing a good job keeping her away from this project while all the while she is collecting.
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So fucking pathetic how many hatters post on this board...

Congrats Evan and Michael! I do hope this works out as planned for you boys~

Taking D$'s lead ~ Bump for J$tyle$ referrals!

I love it when you talk dirty, sweetheart!

... and that you always got my back!

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What I havent seen in the mainstream press is anything about Paris Hilton herself being in on this Trustfundgirls site. Xpays getting involved in this tells me alot. They are getting national scrutiny and would be fools to go forward without model releases. If Paris didnt sign on, all it would take is some gentle prodding to the FBI by the Hilton family and that would be the end of this show for Xpays. This tells me that Paris is getting a piece of the action.

I remember when this trustfundgirls site launched and my wife said to me, "Paris must be so embarrassed". Riiiiight. No, she is in on this I told her. The way to tell is to watch and see if the lawsuits fly, as well as pressure from the Feds over documentation. No lawsuits/ no Feds means she is in on this. Her spin doctors are doing a good job keeping her away from this project while all the while she is collecting.
Lot's of speculation going on!



Certainly interesting!
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Yeah, buddy!

I'm hoping to make enough for a cup of coffe from Starbucks by mid March

Hey J, when do you close escrow on your LA mountainside estate?...housewarming party, etc...can I call dibs on the guest house this summer? LMK.
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Wow to think that ppl are questioning your knowledge of the industry ?! Or your knowledge of traffic trends....

Interesting read... to say the least.

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$10 per sale, that's not much....
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Hey J, when do you close escrow on your LA mountainside estate?...housewarming party, etc...can I call dibs on the guest house this summer? LMK.
We can sign docs tomorrow, but I can't go up to LA until Wed. - so it's final on Wed.!

Nice house on a mountainside, hell yea!

Estate ... well - not really

Gary has an estate, Patrick!

ahahaha

... but we do have a HELLUVA view ... SICK sunsets from here!!!

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Wow to think that ppl are questioning your knowledge of the industry ?! Or your knowledge of traffic trends....

Interesting read... to say the least.

Whitney
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Some people, huh?

... and the funny thing is that it's not even my deal, but - out of loyalty I feel like I have to speak up!

Those that get it, will be hopefully be very happy they did ... that's the bottom line!

I'd love to see this be wildly successful for the XPAYS boys!!!

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Oh baby...I am so excited to see those sunsets every night!

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$10 per sale, that's not much....
Surfers still want this shit BAD ... and will for a long time!

Think about ALL the sites that promised it and didn't show it!

THIS is the REAL THING!!!

It's a FREE download ...

They just have to PAY to play!

and all I have to say is people DO!

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Lane ... there's still a HUGE demand for this!

Why would you think it wouldn't convert?

THOUSANDS of people have already paid ... it's been in the media all week!

Now webmasters have a chance to make $$$ with it?

What's your reasoning?
settle the fuck down
you sound like some desperate mexican trying to make a buck

who the fucks gonna promote your site when they make $10 on a $50 signup?
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:48 AM   #96
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settle the fuck down
you sound like some desperate mexican trying to make a buck

who the fucks gonna promote your site when they make $10 on a $50 signup?

Ummmmmm. People with super converting celeb and Paris Hilton traffic?

Once they launch the affiliate program, people will decide by testing it out. I'm a firm believer that in business, you give the customer what they want.

Simple way to get better conversion ratios, not rocket science.

If they want to see the Paris tape, don't pull a bait and switch, give them the Paris tape.

Anyway, I did like the "desperate mexican trying to make a buck" line, good stuff. J$tyle$ is too light skinned though, but a funny comment I'll bust out on someone in the future.
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settle the fuck down
you sound like some desperate mexican trying to make a buck

who the fucks gonna promote your site when they make $10 on a $50 signup?
Fuck off you ... you ... you ... gringo puto!



me no desperate, I make pretty penny selling oranges by freeway

Americans webmaster be muey bery good to mi

God bless americans webmasters



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Fuck off you ... you ... you ... gringo puto!



me no desperate, I make pretty penny selling oranges by freeway

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Anyway, I did like the "desperate mexican trying to make a buck" line, good stuff. J$tyle$ is too light skinned though, but a funny comment I'll bust out on someone in the future.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:07 AM   #100
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Ummmmmm. People with super converting celeb and Paris Hilton traffic?

Once they launch the affiliate program, people will decide by testing it out. I'm a firm believer that in business, you give the customer what they want.

Simple way to get better conversion ratios, not rocket science.

If they want to see the Paris tape, don't pull a bait and switch, give them the Paris tape.

Anyway, I did like the "desperate mexican trying to make a buck" line, good stuff. J$tyle$ is too light skinned though, but a funny comment I'll bust out on someone in the future.
you do realize hes offering $10 for a $50 signup? you do realize its $50 recurring, but once you grab the vid, why hang around? you do realize that the tape can be grabbed off kazaa?

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