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Old 02-21-2004, 05:53 PM   #1
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Yahoo Directory - Is it worth it ?

Lately Ive been on a Search Engine kick. I want their traffic (who doesnt). Anyway, Ive been thinking of things to try to get more, and eventually got to directories. My first 2 targets are dmoz and yahoo.

Dmoz is free if you can get listed so why not take a shot at it.

Yahoo, on the other hand, has that $600/yr price tag for adult sites. The $600 price tag doesnt even guarantee inclusion ! Then you read the agreement and its like, if we say no, you lost your $600. WTF.

So the questions are, has anyone paid up and been rejected ? If you have been included, did you see any significant changes to Search Engine Traffic, or Google PR ? Is it worth the chance of throwing away $600 ?

Anyone, know of any other good directories to get into ?
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:55 PM   #2
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Good luck on dmoz, 3 years and counting.
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:55 PM   #3
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:58 PM   #4
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Good luck on dmoz, 3 years and counting.
there is a way around that ya know. Volunteer to be an editor of your category, approve your site, then quit


http://dmoz.org/Adult/Image_Galleries/
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:59 PM   #5
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Yeah it's worth it only 600$
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:01 PM   #6
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Judging from your questions and your sig.


Is it a sin to tell Jesus to Fuck Off ?
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:02 PM   #7
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Is it a sin to tell Jesus to Fuck Off ?
No, but its a sin for thousands of you litttle critters running around stealling a few hits there... a few hits there out of MY TRAFFIC.


GET OFF MY INTERNET ASSHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:03 PM   #8
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there is a way around that ya know. Volunteer to be an editor of your category, approve your site, then quit


http://dmoz.org/Adult/Image_Galleries/
been there, tried to be an editor for categories I wasnt even submitting to, rejected many times, gave up.
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:06 PM   #9
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No, but its a sin for thousands of you litttle critters running around stealling a few hits there... a few hits there out of MY TRAFFIC.


GET OFF MY INTERNET ASSHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
When we steal all of your traffic we would be willing to sell it back to you for a discounted price


Anyway, I really wanna know if anyone has been rejected by yahoo ? Im a cheap bastard and only spend money to make money, not to throw it away.
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ajpiii, it's been discussed before, I would do a search.

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Anyway, I really wanna know if anyone has been rejected by yahoo ? Im a cheap bastard and only spend money to make money, not to throw it away.
You can appeal if your site is rejected the first time.
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:12 PM   #11
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When we steal all of your traffic we would be willing to sell it back to you for a discounted price


Anyway, I really wanna know if anyone has been rejected by yahoo ? Im a cheap bastard and only spend money to make money, not to throw it away.
If ya made money you would know its a tax deduction right?
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:12 PM   #12
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been there, tried to be an editor for categories I wasnt even submitting to, rejected many times, gave up.
Hmmm then I guess it doesnt look good for my application I do know an editor their, maybe I can talk him into doing my category for a couple of months
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Old 02-21-2004, 07:16 PM   #13
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The Yahoo paid inclusion is a rip-off.
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Old 02-21-2004, 07:23 PM   #14
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Paid inclusion is indeed a rip off. Why pay?

In a short time they are going to realize that they can not compete with google using such methods.

Remember what happened to the last Yahoo paid inclusion program?
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Old 02-21-2004, 08:22 PM   #15
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I was thinking the yahoo directory listing would carry some weight with the googlebot, and get me a little boost in pr, resulting in increased traffic from both google and yahoo (and everyone else that uses google).

It does seem a little fucked up that they charge double for adult sites ! Guess they figure adult webmasters can swing.

Free is for me, Yahoo can go itself
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:27 AM   #16
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Before I'd do paid inclusion, I'd start a yahoo group. Have you ever looked for porn on the yahoo network?

All the porn + all the crappy sites = surely these people aren't paying for inclusion?!

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Old 02-23-2004, 07:40 AM   #17
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No, but its a sin for thousands of you litttle critters running around stealling a few hits there... a few hits there out of MY TRAFFIC.


GET OFF MY INTERNET ASSHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so sorry, do you want your traffic back?
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:46 AM   #18
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I can sell you 200+ sites listed, for cheeeeep. Right now they are not worth the hosting even. There is a small chance they might go back to the directory being favoured, but I doubt it.
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Old 02-23-2004, 08:16 AM   #19
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Before I'd do paid inclusion, I'd start a yahoo group. Have you ever looked for porn on the yahoo network?

All the porn + all the crappy sites = surely these people aren't paying for inclusion?!

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Yahoo groups these days are worse than TGPs for giving porn away. Since Yahoo quit listing the adult groups, the people who find your group tend to be savvy porn surfers and are only there for the handouts. Since many Yahoo groups owners are hobbiests not in it for the $$$ who share tons of other people's content, people tend to migrate toward them rather than ones that are working in sponsors. If you have something unique at a website you might get a bit a traffic to it but in my experience conversions are worse than most any other traffic.

One plus, you'll likely have a captive audience. I have only approved 1 message from someone other than me for a couple of months now at either of the groups I moderate. It's not because I'm being a hardass, it's just those that have hit my group for free advertising couldn't a follow simple and most fair rule; every post to advertise a website must contain a pic or a link to a gallery. Some people could save a LOT of time checking to see which moderators are actually posting their messages. I'd say 98% of the (spam) posts to a gay group I moderate are for straight porn or straight dating sites.

As far as Yahoo, they aren't going to let themselves get behind Google for relevant search results or it would be their death knoll. Therefore, make sure all new pages you create are linked with pages already in either search engine and you'll eventually be listed in both. I generally don't bother submitting directly to DMOZ, unless you know someone you'll be waiting a lot longer than catching the spider.
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