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404 · 02-18-2004, 09:42 PM

while cleaning and resaving a few 192k bit-rate mp3s with nero, i noticed the file size drops considerably, as it saves (by default?) in 80k bit-rate. i can't tell the difference in quality so why do some mp3s have such high bit-rates (and presumably unnecessarily big file sizes) to start with?

KobyBoy · 02-18-2004, 10:56 PM

The higher the bit-rate the more clearer sounding file you have. The more bitrates mean you can pack more data into the file. CD's are encoded with 128k which is suitable for most equipment. I prefer to encode my files at 192k because disk space is cheap and I like to get high-end stero equipment. I think anything above 192k requires you to be an audiophile. You're right, there is only a subtle difference between 128k and 192k but it is still hearable on my equipment. I'm sure all the audiophiles on the board could give you a better explanation. Mind you this only applies to files that are compressed at a constant bitrate. If you are worried about disk space and still want to maintain a descent quality I would suggest you encode your files at a variable bit rate (VBR). The encoding algorithm will look at your audio file and determine how much information to get rid of and how much information to keep to still maintain a good sounding audio file. The downside of VBR is that older MP3 players can't play them. 80k is a little bit too low for my taste but it it works for you, it works for you. If in doubt use a VBR encoding scheme and you'll get the best of both worlds.
Don't know which version of Nero you are using but with Nero 6 you have the option to save an audio file as an MP4. It produces significantly smaller file sizes but you can't play it back on your MP3 player only on a software player. Check to make sure how you are saving the file. Maybe you are getting significantly smaller file sizes because you are saving them as MP4s.

hyper · 02-18-2004, 10:59 PM

just encode them at 128

404 · 02-19-2004, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by KobyBoy

Check to make sure how you are saving the file. Maybe you are getting significantly smaller file sizes because you are saving them as MP4s.

thanks for the info . i have 5.5 which only gives an option to save in wav or mp3, and doesn't allow the saved bit-rate to be changed from the 80k it defaults to. might track down version 6 anyway.

SYNIKAL · 02-19-2004, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by hyper
just encode them at 128

beemk · 02-19-2004, 02:03 AM

you need 192 if you want to play on a good stereo like if you were going to burn it. cd quality is like 170-180. if its less than cd quality you can tell on a good stereo.

marttali · 02-19-2004, 05:26 AM

192 is a must, there's a big difference between 128 and 192.

Why · 02-19-2004, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by beemk
you need 192 if you want to play on a good stereo like if you were going to burn it. cd quality is like 170-180. if its less than cd quality you can tell on a good stereo.

cd is 128

02-18-2004, 09:42 PM	#1
404 Confirmed abUser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Posts: 1,154	high mp3 bit-rates while cleaning and resaving a few 192k bit-rate mp3s with nero, i noticed the file size drops considerably, as it saves (by default?) in 80k bit-rate. i can't tell the difference in quality so why do some mp3s have such high bit-rates (and presumably unnecessarily big file sizes) to start with? __________________ (b] cheap hmtl programer for hire (/b)

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hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	just encode them at 128 __________________

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beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	you need 192 if you want to play on a good stereo like if you were going to burn it. cd quality is like 170-180. if its less than cd quality you can tell on a good stereo. __________________ I host with Vacares

02-18-2004, 10:56 PM	#2
KobyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Purgatory Posts: 201	The higher the bit-rate the more clearer sounding file you have. The more bitrates mean you can pack more data into the file. CD's are encoded with 128k which is suitable for most equipment. I prefer to encode my files at 192k because disk space is cheap and I like to get high-end stero equipment. I think anything above 192k requires you to be an audiophile. You're right, there is only a subtle difference between 128k and 192k but it is still hearable on my equipment. I'm sure all the audiophiles on the board could give you a better explanation. Mind you this only applies to files that are compressed at a constant bitrate. If you are worried about disk space and still want to maintain a descent quality I would suggest you encode your files at a variable bit rate (VBR). The encoding algorithm will look at your audio file and determine how much information to get rid of and how much information to keep to still maintain a good sounding audio file. The downside of VBR is that older MP3 players can't play them. 80k is a little bit too low for my taste but it it works for you, it works for you. If in doubt use a VBR encoding scheme and you'll get the best of both worlds. Don't know which version of Nero you are using but with Nero 6 you have the option to save an audio file as an MP4. It produces significantly smaller file sizes but you can't play it back on your MP3 player only on a software player. Check to make sure how you are saving the file. Maybe you are getting significantly smaller file sizes because you are saving them as MP4s.

02-19-2004, 05:26 AM	#7
marttali Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 265	192 is a must, there's a big difference between 128 and 192.