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Major (Tom) 03-08-2005 11:50 PM

I have a bridge in brooklyn for sale too :)
DUke

Major (Tom) 03-08-2005 11:51 PM

Duke hit it 301 times :)

beemk 03-09-2005 12:00 AM

and one year later ccbill is still running strong

Rebecca Love 03-09-2005 12:04 AM

Question???
 
After CCBill what would you say the most reliable processor is? I only use CCBill so if they go out of business I will be in a tight spot. So can anyone recommend another RELIABLE processor so that maybe I can cascade and have backup?

Thank you in advance!

smack 03-09-2005 12:09 AM

i don't know about that... it's something to keep an eye on, but i really don't see CCBill going anywhere. only time will tel though.

corvette 03-09-2005 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
Bryan, I think Corvet hates you today.


I have no problem with bryan, i have known him for years and we are very tight

JulianSosa 03-09-2005 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvett
I have no problem with bryan, i have known him for years and we are very tight

How ever tight you guys are he is a moron for bumping this thread.

adultguus 03-09-2005 02:17 AM

I think CCBill is one of the most reliable processors around. I hate people starting these kind of threads trying to spread some drama around the boards.

toddler 03-09-2005 02:39 AM

And where is Hooper now?

andrej_NDC 03-09-2005 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianSosa
How ever tight you guys are he is a moron for bumping this thread.

How is bumping this thread bad for ccbill? Everybody can see, all those claims were wrong. CCbill is rock solid!

vicki 03-09-2005 06:00 AM

old thread bumps like this are plain silly .. somebody must have been bored

tolik 03-09-2005 06:52 AM

ccbill sucks at EU traffic processing.

it are fact.

Corleone 03-09-2005 06:58 AM

I year old thread and ccbill is still processing :)

Raven 03-09-2005 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0
I feel dumb for responding to the first post in a year old thread

At first, I felt kind of dumb...and I attributed that to being tired; but, in reality, I'm not so sure it's a bad thing...since CCBill is still here!

hydro 03-09-2005 12:00 PM

when you scrub as hard as ccbill you don't go anywhere. Thumbsup for ccbill and an old bumped thread :Graucho

whatif_3 03-09-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianSosa
How ever tight you guys are he is a moron for bumping this thread.

dude, will you chill out? it is obvious to everyone why he bumped it, look at the date of the thread and if you a calculation, it is just over a year of hoopers prediction

duh

Webby 03-09-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyL
We have been with CCBILL for 4 years and I have nothing but good to say about them. I have billed through ALL of the other major companies over the last 8 years and they have given me nothing but problems. CCBILL will be the last processor standing. I'll put money on that.

-Tony

Agree Tony! :thumbsup

As a third party processor CCBill have done exactly what they offer and have never failed yet.

The underlying problem, if any, may not be to do with CCBill specifically, but apply to all TTP's in that there is no security of funds.

I hate to even mention em now - but some proposal via iBill and, in their instance, alledgedly using a "third party escrow agent" and segpay.com does have some validity and is a step towards providing security of funds.

Manowar 03-09-2005 12:11 PM

someone got owned in this thread, lol.

Bansheelinks 03-09-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro
when you scrub as hard as ccbill you don't go anywhere. Thumbsup for ccbill and an old bumped thread :Graucho

their motto sometimes must be: "scrub til they bleed!"

Kimmykim 03-09-2005 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddler
And where is Hooper now?

He's been banned for months.

And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.

Rui 03-09-2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
Hooper said we'd all see in a year.

Well, here it is a year later. iBill=gone. CCBill = strong.

Fuck you Hooper. :)

What this man i'm quoting said... :thumbsup

12clicks 03-09-2005 09:48 PM

as with all things, my statements stand the test of time.

pxxx 03-09-2005 10:00 PM

I don't understand the bumping of this thread.

Maybe to prove that Hooper was wrong?

Serious-Partner 03-09-2005 11:54 PM

this is definitely a thread to watch... :))))

inthestars 03-10-2005 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca Love
After CCBill what would you say the most reliable processor is? I only use CCBill so if they go out of business I will be in a tight spot. So can anyone recommend another RELIABLE processor so that maybe I can cascade and have backup?

Thank you in advance!

Rebecca :)

If you want your own merchant account, you can use Netbilling. It costs alot however for adult accounts. http://www.netbilling.com

The other option is Verotel Pro (they are a third party billing company like CCBill, but based in the Netherlands). It costs $1500 for setup and I think the proccessing fee is 14% per transaction plus 10% hold back (in case of charge backs or fraud) - you get the 10% back 6 months later. Their site is http://www.verotel.com

SeniorX 03-10-2005 09:26 AM

Hooper's got a point actually, because more and more sponsors are switching to their own merchant accounts so declining sales will make it hard for Epoch and CCBill to maintain required CB percentages.

NETbilling 03-10-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthestars
Rebecca :)

If you want your own merchant account, you can use Netbilling. It costs alot however for adult accounts. http://www.netbilling.com

The other option is Verotel Pro (they are a third party billing company like CCBill, but based in the Netherlands). It costs $1500 for setup and I think the proccessing fee is 14% per transaction plus 10% hold back (in case of charge backs or fraud) - you get the 10% back 6 months later. Their site is http://www.verotel.com

Inthestars,

Thanks for the props. CCbill is a great company and I'm sure they are not going anywhere.

Rebecca - Netbilling is also exrtremely strong as well and are setting up new merchant accounts for merchants daily. We will be glad to help with anyone looking for reliable processing. Please contact our sales department for a walkthrough of our incredible system and to have all of your questions answered.

888-357-8166 or 661-252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber

andrej_NDC 03-10-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeniorX
Hooper's got a point actually, because more and more sponsors are switching to their own merchant accounts so declining sales will make it hard for Epoch and CCBill to maintain required CB percentages.

Oh dear, they decline some sales to maintain the required CB percentages. Would there be any logic in the opposite?

esteve 03-10-2005 08:13 PM

I hope not

tony286 03-10-2005 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim
He's been banned for months.

And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.

Not needed your fucking kidding right ? lol I know you make money from these people and i respect you but please dont be so transparent. If you want to open a casino you have to so much money in escrow to cover loses, why is it bullshit for a third party processor? Someone we trust with our money that could be here today gone tomorrow not to have funds in escrow?

High Quality 10-23-2005 01:59 PM

1.5 years later CCBill is still running. Hahaha :thumbsup

Matt 26z 10-23-2005 02:04 PM

Technically he still has a chance to be right since nobody has gone under since that was posted.

MaDalton 10-23-2005 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Technically he still has a chance to be right since nobody has gone under since that was posted.

where have you been when IBill stopped paying? :error

ok, they are still there - but they just die a slow, painfull dead instead of just disappearing

potter 10-23-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Quality
1.5 years later CCBill is still running. Hahaha :thumbsup

nice bump!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

$5 submissions 10-23-2005 03:50 PM

CCBill still running strong!

Webby 10-23-2005 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.
Where does a business decision to use a TTP rely on trust?? Is that they way your business is run? On trust??? If so, it would be wise to not tell your Banker this.

Clients of any third party processor don't "know" them, nevermind have any basis on which to trust them. Do you trust banks because they run friendly ads on TV?

Even banks are covered by indemnities to a degree, yet you expect webmasters to just sign on a website page and, in effect, pass ownership of billing/rebilling to a TTP and just live hope of the TTP company paying them??

We have watched a number of TTP's hit the grave owing webmasters money. How long do you expect this track record to continue and be tolerated?

It takes little logic to see know that *any* third party processing company can come and go tomorrow - they may be on the top of the pack one day, - the only direction after that is downwards and just a matter of when.

Of course there is a need for security of funds within the TTP model. Whether this is an escrow solution, insurance or some other mechanism. A few TTP's, mainly within the EU have now already implemented measures to ensure client funds in the event of their demise.

It would be nice to see this issue addressed, and not avoided, by the majority of processors. This particularly applies to processors within the US where laws are clearly non-existant to protect clients of TPP's and similar companies acting in a financial capacity, (almost as bank agents) and having no security in place - it's too absurd.

After a number of "dead parrotts" in the third party processing biz, it becomes boring chasing them, writing off their debts and burying the carcasses.

Trust is not even on the table as a topic for discussion.

DaddyHalbucks 10-23-2005 04:05 PM

Accusations without supporting facts is also known as.. BS.

Who cares if someone had some coke or pepsi or got drunk or got laid? Isn't that a little hypocritical to be saying such things, especially in this industry?

CCbill seems pretty reliable to me.

Webby 10-23-2005 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Accusations without supporting facts is also known as.. BS.

Who cares if someone had some coke or pepsi or got drunk or got laid? Isn't that a little hypocritical to be saying such things, especially in this industry?

CCbill seems pretty reliable to me.

Not sure what your post is referring to DH, but if is in response to above - I'm not making accusations - just responding to kk on the lack of security of funds.

And yea... agree CCBill seems pretty reliable, tho that topics applies to them as well.

SteveLightspeed 10-23-2005 04:15 PM

CCbill :thumbsup

Morgan 10-23-2005 04:35 PM

jesus.........

Lace 10-23-2005 04:37 PM

way over a year now. lol

jaYMan 10-23-2005 06:40 PM

I never got any cookies.

Interesting to see some of the names in this thread.

Blizzard 02-04-2006 06:43 AM

Oh really.

Manowar 02-04-2006 07:19 AM

This thread is funny

Deej 02-04-2006 07:20 AM

dude, this looks like a prime sig spot

KingK7 02-04-2006 07:29 AM

Hahahaha, a golden oldie

Stallion 02-04-2006 07:35 AM

Boy guess Hooper was wrong.. lol

SomeCreep 02-04-2006 07:36 AM

This thread is old like mold turned to gold and sold

V_RocKs 06-13-2007 06:26 PM

I guess Hooper was wrong.

Snake Doctor 06-13-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12595923)
I guess Hooper was wrong.

Either that or very very early


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