CVI Countersues Acacia - Seeks Class Action - GoFuckYourself.com

JackStroke · 02-18-2004, 10:09 AM

Just saw this on www.allofem.com:

Cybernet Ventures, parent company of Adult Check, has filed a countersuit and class action suit against Acacia. The suit in part responds to Acacia's claim by detailing instance by instance that they "deny each and every allegation contained in the Complaint". In the counterclaim Cybernet "seeks a declaratory judgement of invalidity, noninfringement and unenforaciblity" on Acacia's streaming media patents. The full text of the document is supplied by All Of 'Em and can be read here in Adobe Acrobat format: http://www.allofem.com/CybernetAcacia1.pdf

doober · 02-18-2004, 10:14 AM

pdf wont open!
but this has to be good news...bumP

KRL · 02-18-2004, 10:15 AM

Acacia is going to end up in the shitter by the time its all over.

They messed with the wrong people when they figured adult would be a bunch of lay downs.

unitedpimps jrock · 02-18-2004, 10:28 AM

go ac!

$5 submissions · 02-18-2004, 10:36 AM

Good!!!!

Acacia

JFK · 02-18-2004, 10:42 AM

I hope its True, GO A/C

ytcracker · 02-18-2004, 10:43 AM

who is acacia

HAHAHHA j/K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

J.R. · 02-18-2004, 10:46 AM

I hope the knock them on their ass for good!

JFK · 02-18-2004, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.R.
I hope the knock them on their ass for good!

YUP !!

dicknixon · 02-18-2004, 01:00 PM

Fucking A . . go AC tear those fucks a new asshole!

MasterBlogger · 02-18-2004, 01:06 PM

mega ...
Way to go AdultCheck.com...
going to have to read up on this.

jimmyf · 02-18-2004, 01:11 PM

Acacia within 6 months bankruptcy

crockett · 02-18-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
Acacia within 6 months bankruptcy

we could only hope, but don't forget they have lasted on the whole V-chip deal.. that's been going on about 10 years hasn't it?

SetTheWorldonFire · 02-18-2004, 01:14 PM

Good to know someone is trying

Veterans Day · 02-18-2004, 01:15 PM

Furious_Male · 02-18-2004, 01:16 PM

Good news. Will have to watch and see how this develops.

hottoddy · 02-18-2004, 01:18 PM

Here's the link from a post earlier today.

http://www.allofem.com/CybernetAcacia1.pdf

I believe the "class action" part just pertains the group of defendants sharing the same liabilities. Cybernet does demand a jury trial, denies all liability for infringments and sets forth 15 affirmative defenses. The counterclaims are pretty much pro-forma. You have to assert any counterclaims in your Answer, or else waive them. These can be amended later. Basically, Cybernet is asking for equitable relief from further harrassment, attorneys fees, and any other equitable remedies deemed fit by a judge or jury. However, attorney's fees and costs could run quite high in a case like this

MetaformX · 02-18-2004, 01:20 PM

Way to go CVI

JFK · 02-18-2004, 01:22 PM

Like any lawsuit this will take time as well, but more shit that gets thrown against a wall the better , some of it will stick

jimmyf · 02-18-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Like any lawsuit this will take time as well, but more shit that gets thrown against a wall the better , some of it will stick

And cost'em lawyer are not cheap.

Theo · 02-18-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Like any lawsuit this will take time as well, but more shit that gets thrown against a wall the better , some of it will stick

true

BRISK · 02-18-2004, 01:49 PM

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 02:30 PM

Did anyone read the PDF?

the Fifth Affirmative Defense says that Acacia had their claims of one of their main patents (the '902 one) checked by a research company. The company made a report that basically said that the patent is _NOT_ novel. They had 28 references to stuff that talked about the same ideas. Most of them dated BEFORE the date on the 902 patent! They did not include that report when submitting it to the PTO...

very interesting.. (hope I didn't misunderstand)

SykkBoy · 02-18-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Acacia is going to end up in the shitter by the time its all over.

They messed with the wrong people when they figured adult would be a bunch of lay downs.

Actually, there were quite a few laydowns already....

fuelcell · 02-18-2004, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Acacia is going to end up in the shitter by the time its all over.

They messed with the wrong people when they figured adult would be a bunch of lay downs.

You're forgetting how many adult companies have laid down.

Groove · 02-18-2004, 03:33 PM

Nice one

Paul -C- · 02-18-2004, 03:39 PM

Awesome!

Go AC!

JackStroke · 02-18-2004, 05:08 PM

Here's an XBiz article with some analysis:
http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=1115

Volantt · 02-18-2004, 05:41 PM

Did you see where Acacia was doing a $50m shelf offering to raise cash. What happened to the $40m+ cash on hand they had last quarter? Can't wait to see the quarterly report.

V

Brujah · 02-18-2004, 05:49 PM

who is working at xbiz on these articles ? They're on top of things quick and doing a nice job of covering issues.

Mr.Fiction · 02-18-2004, 06:01 PM

Adult Check

Acacia stock is dropping today and earnings come out tomorrow.

02-18-2004, 10:09 AM	#1
JackStroke Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 51	CVI Countersues Acacia - Seeks Class Action Just saw this on www.allofem.com: Cybernet Ventures, parent company of Adult Check, has filed a countersuit and class action suit against Acacia. The suit in part responds to Acacia's claim by detailing instance by instance that they "deny each and every allegation contained in the Complaint". In the counterclaim Cybernet "seeks a declaratory judgement of invalidity, noninfringement and unenforaciblity" on Acacia's streaming media patents. The full text of the document is supplied by All Of 'Em and can be read here in Adobe Acrobat format: http://www.allofem.com/CybernetAcacia1.pdf

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hottoddy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PacNorWest Posts: 3,048	Here's the link from a post earlier today. http://www.allofem.com/CybernetAcacia1.pdf I believe the "class action" part just pertains the group of defendants sharing the same liabilities. Cybernet does demand a jury trial, denies all liability for infringments and sets forth 15 affirmative defenses. The counterclaims are pretty much pro-forma. You have to assert any counterclaims in your Answer, or else waive them. These can be amended later. Basically, Cybernet is asking for equitable relief from further harrassment, attorneys fees, and any other equitable remedies deemed fit by a judge or jury. However, attorney's fees and costs could run quite high in a case like this __________________ - *** - Last edited by hottoddy; 02-18-2004 at 01:20 PM..

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