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Old 02-16-2004, 05:32 AM   #1
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Chechen terrorists are moving to Iraq

According to TIMES, Al Quaeda has appealed 1500..2000 Chechen terrorists to leave Russia and join Iraqi opposition.

As far as I remember, some naive guy here has suggested conducting "free elections" especially for radical Islamic terrorists in Chechnya... Seems now it's time to move these elections to Iraq...

Don't want to offend somebody here, but some people are too stupid and naive when they think that Chechen terror is just a rebellian war for "freedom" which is not related to terrorism and Al Quaeda.
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yeah, for sure terrorist ;)..
Nazis in WW2 also had called polish guerilla 'terrorist' and 'bandits' ,so on...
Chechens are fighting for fredom of their country, and history shows that this fight is running from XVIII Century or even earlier .
so, pls don't act like president Putin here ;)
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yeah, for sure terrorist ;)..
Nazis in WW2 also had called polish guerilla 'terrorist' and 'bandits' ,so on...
Chechens are fighting for fredom of their country, and history shows that this fight is running from XVIII Century or even earlier .
so, pls don't act like president Putin here ;)
Now they will fight for their "freedom" in Iraq.
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Now they will fight for their "freedom" in Iraq.
How could you say that? They are fighting for the freedom of us ALL...
Terrorists have noble goals and even more noble means to achieve them!

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Pfffft.... Only 2000?
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Pfffft.... Only 2000?
You think 2000 of radical Islamic extremists who are high-skilled in murder and terrorism are not enough to blow up the current situation in Iraq?
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Nope the US army will take care of them
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Nope the US army will take care of them
Not sure... The US soldiers were trained to shoot inanimate wooden targets and march singing a song... That's not the same thing as the real war in partisan conditions. The USA has already lost 500+ people in Iraq but guerrilla warfare is just beginning there... On other hand, Chechen terrorists are professionals in such a war. Did't you ever see a Chechen bastard who is cutting off a head of alive captive with just a knife?.. He is laughting, joking and praises Allah doing that I sincerely hope you'll never see that on US TV.
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Oh I'm sure that Iraqis must be glad to loose even more of there independance. First the US comes to occupy them and then some groups come to screw things up even more. Seems like Iraq is not for Iraqis anymore.
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Now they will fight for their "freedom" in Iraq.
well, jihad is important thing for many of them
actually in these days many nations and countries want to liberate Iraq ..

dunno what Iraqis think about all that shit ;)
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Not sure... The US soldiers were trained to shoot inanimate wooden targets and march singing a song... That's not the same thing as the real war in partisan conditions. The USA has already lost 500+ people in Iraq but guerrilla warfare is just beginning there... On other hand, Chechen terrorists are professionals in such a war. Did't you ever see a Chechen bastard who is cutting off a head of alive captive with just a knife?.. He is laughting, joking and praises Allah doing that I sincerely hope you'll never see that on US TV.
We will see...... If the Russians can control the Chechens I am sure US army can. There can be no war without casualties.
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We will see...... If the Russians can control the Chechens I am sure US army can. There can be no war without casualties.
So why the US army even now can't control just a small part of Baghdad? The skirmishes and explosions in Iraq are happen almost every day? Note that Iraqi people is much less skilled in war in comparison with Chechen ones. Actually Iraqi people has no such a skill at all...
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So why the US army even now can't control just a small part of Baghdad? The skirmishes and explosions in Iraq are happen almost every day? Note that Iraqi people is much less skilled in war in comparison with Chechen ones. Actually Iraqi people has no such a skill at all...
Yeah but Iraqi people are desperate and fighting for there own country, unlike the Chechens.
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it would be great to debate with the left, if you guys would embrace something called truth and facts.
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You mean Bush's interpretation of the truth and Rush Limbaugh's version of the facts.

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Frankly, I hope every crazy suicidal motherfucking "terrorist" goes to Iraq and turns this war into Vietnam Part 2.

It'd make me giggle like a teenage schoolgirl!

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Yeah but Iraqi people are desperate and fighting for there own country, unlike the Chechens.
Reasonable. However please don't forget that Chechen hirelings are most trained and skilled killers in the world... probaby excepting the Palestinian ones who act in Israel.
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well, there are huge differences between the russian army and the american army.

russian army is run by a bunch of fat generals driving mercedes 600's cause they steal so much from the russian people.

russian soldiers are mostly young kids that have no choice being in the army to begin with.

russian army is so poor that their equipment constantly breaks down, thus hindering their tactics (if the fat vodka-drinking generals ever put any thought into the war besides carpet bombing).

there are so many differences, I could go on and on....

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yeah, for sure terrorist ;)..
Nazis in WW2 also had called polish guerilla 'terrorist' and 'bandits' ,so on...
Chechens are fighting for fredom of their country, and history shows that this fight is running from XVIII Century or even earlier .
so, pls don't act like president Putin here ;)
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What did Putin say 5 years ago??

Something like, "We will shoot them while they're on the toilet"


I bet Putin listens to "straight out of Grozny" while he is on the toilet.
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well, there are huge differences between the russian army and the american army.

russian army is run by a bunch of fat generals driving mercedes 600's cause they steal so much from the russian people.

russian soldiers are mostly young kids that have no choice being in the army to begin with.

russian army is so poor that their equipment constantly breaks down, thus hindering their tactics (if the fat vodka-drinking generals ever put any thought into the war besides carpet bombing).

there are so many differences, I could go on and on....

Mostly agree. 99.9% of Russian generals are fat degenerates who don't care about soldiers. Actually they care about their pockets and paunches only. But usually the poor, sore and unpretentious army can fight much better than well-equipped and satisfied one... Do you remember Vietnam? The same with Iraq. Do you know how many US soldiers shoot themselves just because they are used to live in more comfortable places, eat better food and just because they were not ready to fight and possibly be killed... The people who have nothing to lose usually fight much better, and course they do not to commit suicide... So not everything is so obvious as you may think...
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your username is very appropriate

Bill Clinton is da men ).
and about russian army- there are rumors that Russian soldiers sell they weapons and ammo to the Chechens ...
thta is the paradox.
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What did Putin say 5 years ago??

Something like, "We will shoot them while they're on the toilet"

I bet Putin listens to "straight out of Grozny" while he is on the toilet.
It's silly to think that he is able to extirpate Islamic terrorism and save Russia just as it is silly to think that Bush is able to bury all the USA ;) These guys are just presidents but nothing more...

BTW, one of most bloody Chechen terrorist leader named Salman Raduiev was captured right in the toilet. That's not a joke ;)
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and about russian army- there are rumors that Russian soldiers sell they weapons and ammo to the Chechens ...
thta is the paradox.
Not soldiers, but generals for sure.
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war is the same shit, regardless it is in CheChenya or Iraq...
however Americans don't rape Iraqis women, I think...or kill too much civils.
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Not sure... The US soldiers were trained to shoot inanimate wooden targets and march singing a song... That's not the same thing as the real war in partisan conditions.
I would have to agree with this.... US military fight by the numbers... add an element of surprise and they fall to pieces... just look at Veiatnam (spelling please)....

One thing the US has to remember... HISTORY, it always repeats itself. And just like every other Empire int he past... the US will fall with the same force as the ones in the past.

There are reasons for Rules.... and when one country (the US) goes and does what they want and disregards the rules... then they need to be held responsible for their actions.

The sad thing is... people like you and me are pawns in the whole scheme of things... We are the ones that lose our children in war..., we are the ones who suffer the economic hardship that wars bring... not the politicians.

So, Bush telling you that you are in danger is total bullshit... 8 years since the last attact on US soild by forgin agents... All these Warning alerts are there and are raised to keep you scared so that this NEW agency (homeland security) can stay in business.

Wake up America... Your FREEDOM's that we hold so dear are being taken away from us in the name of safety.

STOP BEING SO FUCKING STUPID AND OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK FOR YOURSELF AND DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT THE TAINTED MEDIA TELLS YOU!!!

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So, Bush telling you that you are in danger is total bullshit... 8 years since the last attact on US soild by forgin agents... All these Warning alerts are there and are raised to keep you scared so that this NEW agency (homeland security) can stay in business.

Wake up America... Your FREEDOM's that we hold so dear are being taken away from us in the name of safety.

STOP BEING SO FUCKING STUPID AND OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK FOR YOURSELF AND DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT THE TAINTED MEDIA TELLS YOU!!!

great words, exactly
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well, there are huge differences between the russian army and the american army.

russian army is run by a bunch of fat generals driving mercedes 600's cause they steal so much from the russian people.

russian soldiers are mostly young kids that have no choice being in the army to begin with.

russian army is so poor that their equipment constantly breaks down, thus hindering their tactics (if the fat vodka-drinking generals ever put any thought into the war besides carpet bombing).

there are so many differences, I could go on and on....

And yet thanks to them you don't speak German
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war is the same shit, regardless it is in CheChenya or Iraq...
however Americans don't rape Iraqis women, I think...or kill too much civils.
Sad but untrue... American soldiers are RAPE Iraqi women (there are more than 400 cases registered), and they kill civils (shooting demonstrations). Those are facts. We just getting the news from different sources...
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Sad but untrue... American soldiers are RAPE Iraqi women (there are more than 400 cases registered), and they kill civils (shooting demonstrations). Those are facts. We just getting the news from different sources...
huh, I thought that press of public opinion would make American commanders to absolutely not let such things happen ...shit, 400 cases, damn...
fuck them and their law.
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i second that, men

he has whole square dedicated to him, in downtown of free Kosovo's capital

it's easy to find, it's right in between al quida regional hq, burned 12th century church and heroine factory

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and about russian army- there are rumors that Russian soldiers sell they weapons and ammo to the Chechens ...
thta is the paradox.
as you said - rumors

i'll believe that only when i see it on cnn
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I thank Churchill for that.
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I thank Churchill for that.
Churchill won the WWII??? Hmm... interesting... New history is creating right in my sight... Please continue. Tell us the details. I think everyone here would be interesting to know on how exactly Churchill won the war!!!
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American, British and Canadian Lend-Lease made a significant difference in the progress of the Soviet armies against Hitler's armies. However, the USSR tried to keep this information limited and the role of Lend-Lease is generally not well known although it constituted about 15 per cent of the total equipment used by the USSR, particularly almost one-half million American trucks. It was said that the only thing that moved through the mud towards Germany were the Ukrainian T-34 tanks with their wide tracks and the American Studebaker trucks.

The USA supplied the USSR with 6,430 planes, 3,734 tanks, 104 ships and boats, 210,000 autos, 3,000 anti-aircraft guns, 245,000 field telephones, gasoline, aluminum, copper, zinc, steel and five million tons of food. This was enough to feed an army of 12 million every day of the war. Britain supplied 5,800 planes, 4,292 tanks, and 12 minesweepers. Canada supplied 1,188 tanks, 842 armoured cars, nearly one million shells, and 208,000 tons of wheat and flour. The USSR depended on American trucks for its mobility since 427,000 out of 665,000 motor vehicles (trucks and jeeps) at the end of the war were of western origin.

Churchill had the balls to stand up tp Hitler, while the Russians were only fooling themselves with their little non-aggression treaty with Hitler.
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According to TIMES, Al Quaeda has appealed 1500..2000 Chechen terrorists to leave Russia and join Iraqi opposition.

As far as I remember, some naive guy here has suggested conducting "free elections" especially for radical Islamic terrorists in Chechnya... Seems now it's time to move these elections to Iraq...

Don't want to offend somebody here, but some people are too stupid and naive when they think that Chechen terror is just a rebellian war for "freedom" which is not related to terrorism and Al Quaeda.
And some people have their thoughts and ideas installed into otherwise vacant heads by the nightly news. God I'm so sick of hearing about Al Qeada this and that. News fucking flash! They are not now nor have they ever been the only terrorist organization on this planet. The day after 9/11 the fucking Israelis were hot for America to believe it was --their-- pet terrorist organization that did it. Instead we choose the dreaded, all powerful Al Qeada as boogey man.

Don't make the mistake of thinking what you read is the truth. Ask yourself where did they get the information? CIA? Intelligence sources? Everyone has seen how dead-on reliable those sources are with Bush and cronies pointing their finger daily at bad intelligence as the reason for their WMD claims.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:16 AM   #44
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and i was overwhelmed with your charming dullness
damn ,killed again, ya smartass.
good 4 you and bad 4 me that I don't speak English fluently.
and please, save your irony for yourself this time ;).
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American, British and Canadian Lend-Lease made a significant difference in the progress of the Soviet armies against Hitler's armies. However, the USSR tried to keep this information limited and the role of Lend-Lease is generally not well known although it constituted about 15 per cent of the total equipment used by the USSR, particularly almost one-half million American trucks. It was said that the only thing that moved through the mud towards Germany were the Ukrainian T-34 tanks with their wide tracks and the American Studebaker trucks.
"Ukrainian T-34 tanks" May be you even know the name of that "Ukrainian" engineer who have created the T-34 tank? You are so funny bro... Please keep narrating
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:26 AM   #46
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"Ukrainian T-34 tanks" May be you even know the name of that "Ukrainian" engineer who have created the T-34 tank? You are so funny bro... Please keep narrating
Let me guess, the young and charismatic vladimir putin intented it??

The T(toilet)-34??
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Let me guess, the young and charismatic vladimir putin intented it??

The T(toilet)-34??
Seems you're dreaming only about toilets and vladimir putin (young and charismatic - hehe ) Take a rest bro, you 're working toooo much
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IRAQ = the 51st state of the US.

I just wonder how long we will let the person we put into leadership there stay in power... Lets see... we let Saddam stay in power how long? I mean we put him in office there... you did know that right?
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American, British and Canadian Lend-Lease made a significant difference in the progress of the Soviet armies against Hitler's armies. However, the USSR tried to keep this information limited and the role of Lend-Lease is generally not well known although it constituted about 15 per cent of the total equipment used by the USSR, particularly almost one-half million American trucks. It was said that the only thing that moved through the mud towards Germany were the Ukrainian T-34 tanks with their wide tracks and the American Studebaker trucks.

The USA supplied the USSR with 6,430 planes, 3,734 tanks, 104 ships and boats, 210,000 autos, 3,000 anti-aircraft guns, 245,000 field telephones, gasoline, aluminum, copper, zinc, steel and five million tons of food. This was enough to feed an army of 12 million every day of the war. Britain supplied 5,800 planes, 4,292 tanks, and 12 minesweepers. Canada supplied 1,188 tanks, 842 armoured cars, nearly one million shells, and 208,000 tons of wheat and flour. The USSR depended on American trucks for its mobility since 427,000 out of 665,000 motor vehicles (trucks and jeeps) at the end of the war were of western origin.

Churchill had the balls to stand up tp Hitler, while the Russians were only fooling themselves with their little non-aggression treaty with Hitler.
You do not know a fucking thing about that.
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And yet thanks to them you don't speak German
What is wrong with speaking German? It is a great language.
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