GL2? VX2100? Others? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mikey_219Inc · 02-11-2004, 02:45 AM

I love my XM2, but going to get something NTSC and although i got my finger on the buy button on bhphotovideo for the GL2, i figured id sleep on it and maybe get some opinions.

any opinions are appreciated, just want to stick to minidv, stay away from humongous shit like xl1's i prefer the ability to take cam in hand. thanks!

Mikey

Mikey_219Inc · 02-11-2004, 05:34 AM

wake up videographers!

Mikey_219Inc · 02-11-2004, 09:05 AM

ok im getting the gl2 ... on another note, why the fuck can i encode in tmpegenc one file at a time perfectly, but when i use the batcher, it adds black lines either at the top or the sides ...

brizzad · 02-11-2004, 09:08 AM

idk what this thread is about, but ill bump it for ya anyways

KraZ · 02-11-2004, 10:28 AM

Hi Mikey,

I've worked with the XM2 and it SUCKS compared to the Sony. I know I'm probably biased [just a bit] but I liked the Sony much better. The 2100 seems like perfection itself. Unless of course you need some 30 frames of progressive video...

Today I was looking at Panasonic DVX100a - a new & improved model that supports a variety of frame rates but the price is a bit higher (about ~3500 USD).
http://www.panasonic.com/pbds/subcat...g-dvx100a.html

I'll still get the VX2100

Manowar · 02-11-2004, 10:39 AM

the sony VX series is the best IMHO

Keev · 02-11-2004, 10:41 AM

Kraz when you going to get back to me i have sent a email or two, icq'd ya nad no response....

I would liek to talk to you about custom shoots.

KRL · 02-11-2004, 10:41 AM

God that is gorgeous!

AaronM · 02-11-2004, 10:46 AM

Sony VX2100....Hands down.

emmanuelle · 02-11-2004, 10:57 AM

I hear great things about the Sony.

The xl1 is nice, but we find that it intimidates people, which is not good in certain shooting situations.

DWB · 02-11-2004, 11:22 AM

I had a VX1000 for years and toyed with the VX2000 but was sold on the GL2.

necoeds · 02-11-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

God that is gorgeous!

got mine last week... it's simply amazing!

It's low light recording is simply un-fucking-real! I don't even want to touch my vx2000's anymore

I also LOVE the feel of the body..

Halcyon · 02-11-2004, 11:31 AM

I have seen a WIDE variety of prices on the DCR-VX2100. What is a realistic price for one?

Ricky Dynamite · 02-11-2004, 11:33 AM

The Panasonic DVX100 is god for 24p recording.

BV · 02-11-2004, 11:35 AM

Why anyone would want the GL2 with 1/4 " ccds when the vx's have 1/3" ccds is beyond me.

Mikey_219Inc · 02-11-2004, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
Why anyone would want the GL2 with 1/4 " ccds when the vx's have 1/3" ccds is beyond me.

i started with xl1s and have all canon accessories (batteries, wide angle adapter, etc.) ...

I do want to maybe get the sony tho ... just would like to know if it can shoot non interlaced. I prefer the 25 fps progressive mode but gotta get an ntsc cam.

Shit even dvd is compressed to high heaven from the source ... cant be that big of a damn difference the size of the ccds can it (to the final product - be it dvd or web) if im lighting properly???

i dunno ... thats why im asking

Thanks any other replies appreciated. I dont want to know if you havent used both, no offense ... im not asking how cool you think your sony is, but really ... am i really fucking up getting the GL2 and why ... this XM2 of mine has filmed some mighty fine smut ...

Mikey_219Inc · 02-11-2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halcyon
I have seen a WIDE variety of prices on the DCR-VX2100. What is a realistic price for one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...&Q=&O=&s b=ps

this is the place to buy...

DirtyDanza · 02-11-2004, 12:51 PM

I have the vx2100 and it's very pro cam... you can shoot anything with it... the shots are crystal clear in any light.. it has built in filters.... and when used wth a filter it just enhances everything... I went to the shark tank the other day here and shot some stuff.. fucking amazing... I will post some of it in a few....

KraZ · 02-12-2004, 02:30 AM

To summarize:

Best VIDEO cam: Sony VX2100, amazing chip, amazing low light, handles perfectly for this type of work (ask Anabolic). The only drawback is the progressive scan (it's not going to 30 fps as the GL2).

Best DVD/Cine cam: Panasonic DVX100a: good chip, good low light, pro sound (XLR), a variety of frame rates: 60i, 30 fps, 24 fps...

Best HD Cam: JVC GR-HD10 ... full high definition 720x1280 picture at a progressive 30 frames per second. Who cares about chip and low light when you can brag you shoot porn for HDTVs

Mutt · 02-12-2004, 02:49 AM

i want my guys to look at the Panasonic for that 24p mode, supposed to look like film. It's more expensive than the VX 2000 but not by that much, it's 3,000 though there is model about that one for 3500.

i think shooting gonzo in 24p might be a mistake, gonzo should look as real as possible, giving gonzo a film look might not be a good idea. i have to check out the stuff Quasarman has shot for Zero Tolerance, he uses the Panasonic at 24p.

KraZ · 02-12-2004, 02:51 AM

Another consideration - price ... Canon had a $250 rebate on the Canon GL2 for like a whole year but I think it is no more.

So the price of the GL2 is now $250 closer to that of the Sony VX2000/VX2100...

KraZ · 02-12-2004, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
i want my guys to look at the Panasonic for that 24p mode, supposed to look like film. It's more expensive than the VX 2000 but not by that much, it's 3,000 though there is model about that one for 3500.

i think shooting gonzo in 24p might be a mistake, gonzo should look as real as possible, giving gonzo a film look might not be a good idea. i have to check out the stuff Quasarman has shot for Zero Tolerance, he uses the Panasonic at 24p.

The differnce in price is quite dramatic actually. Sony VX2100 is $2,200 while Panasonic DVX100a is $3,200 (Source: PriceGrabber). That's 30% more.

Also, 24p means quick action won't look too good. Have you noticed how quick pans or tilts at 24p become jagged and blurry? I think Gonzo style is meant to be shot at 60i. 24p is for aspiring (stupid) wannabe filmmakers who think they'll be able to blow it to 35 mm...

02-11-2004, 02:45 AM	#1
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	GL2? VX2100? Others? I love my XM2, but going to get something NTSC and although i got my finger on the buy button on bhphotovideo for the GL2, i figured id sleep on it and maybe get some opinions. any opinions are appreciated, just want to stick to minidv, stay away from humongous shit like xl1's i prefer the ability to take cam in hand. thanks! Mikey __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

02-11-2004, 05:34 AM	#2
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	wake up videographers! __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

02-11-2004, 09:05 AM	#3
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	ok im getting the gl2 ... on another note, why the fuck can i encode in tmpegenc one file at a time perfectly, but when i use the batcher, it adds black lines either at the top or the sides ... __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

02-11-2004, 10:28 AM	#5
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	Hi Mikey, I've worked with the XM2 and it SUCKS compared to the Sony. I know I'm probably biased [just a bit] but I liked the Sony much better. The 2100 seems like perfection itself. Unless of course you need some 30 frames of progressive video... Today I was looking at Panasonic DVX100a - a new & improved model that supports a variety of frame rates but the price is a bit higher (about ~3500 USD). http://www.panasonic.com/pbds/subcat...g-dvx100a.html I'll still get the VX2100 __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984 Last edited by KraZ; 02-11-2004 at 10:32 AM..

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Sony VX2100....Hands down.

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emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	I hear great things about the Sony. The xl1 is nice, but we find that it intimidates people, which is not good in certain shooting situations.

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I had a VX1000 for years and toyed with the VX2000 but was sold on the GL2.

02-11-2004, 11:31 AM	#13
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	I have seen a WIDE variety of prices on the DCR-VX2100. What is a realistic price for one? __________________ HAL on TEDx:

02-11-2004, 11:33 AM	#14
Ricky Dynamite Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Porn Valley, CA Posts: 307	The Panasonic DVX100 is god for 24p recording.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Why anyone would want the GL2 with 1/4 " ccds when the vx's have 1/3" ccds is beyond me.

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DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	I have the vx2100 and it's very pro cam... you can shoot anything with it... the shots are crystal clear in any light.. it has built in filters.... and when used wth a filter it just enhances everything... I went to the shark tank the other day here and shot some stuff.. fucking amazing... I will post some of it in a few.... __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

02-12-2004, 02:30 AM	#19
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	To summarize: Best VIDEO cam: Sony VX2100, amazing chip, amazing low light, handles perfectly for this type of work (ask Anabolic). The only drawback is the progressive scan (it's not going to 30 fps as the GL2). Best DVD/Cine cam: Panasonic DVX100a: good chip, good low light, pro sound (XLR), a variety of frame rates: 60i, 30 fps, 24 fps... Best HD Cam: JVC GR-HD10 ... full high definition 720x1280 picture at a progressive 30 frames per second. Who cares about chip and low light when you can brag you shoot porn for HDTVs __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984

02-12-2004, 02:49 AM	#20
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i want my guys to look at the Panasonic for that 24p mode, supposed to look like film. It's more expensive than the VX 2000 but not by that much, it's 3,000 though there is model about that one for 3500. i think shooting gonzo in 24p might be a mistake, gonzo should look as real as possible, giving gonzo a film look might not be a good idea. i have to check out the stuff Quasarman has shot for Zero Tolerance, he uses the Panasonic at 24p. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	Another consideration - price ... Canon had a $250 rebate on the Canon GL2 for like a whole year but I think it is no more. So the price of the GL2 is now $250 closer to that of the Sony VX2000/VX2100... __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984