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Old 02-10-2004, 02:23 PM   #1
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31 Trials - 1 rebill... Anyone ever experienced this?

WOW, I am speachless. I am now at 31 trials & only 1 rebill. It just does not sound right, Anyone ever experienced something like this? MPA2 affiliate software. go figure
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:24 PM   #2
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:24 PM   #3
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WOW, I am speachless. I am now at 31 trials & only 1 rebill. It just does not sound right, Anyone ever experienced something like this? MPA2 affiliate software. go figure
sounds like a hot member section
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:24 PM   #4
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That's really shitty, I'd love to know what sponsor it is ICQ me please #5051691..
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:27 PM   #5
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One of new Flyntdigital sites, eh?
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:28 PM   #6
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Been there done that . change sponsor and bash the fuck out of him on the boards . I sent 50 joins a day for a week to a guy . The trial was weekly . Out of that I received like 1k $ . TOTAL after all that time .

Now I check every member aera before I send joins in to make sure they can keep their members
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:29 PM   #7
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:32 PM   #8
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:34 PM   #9
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but it cant work if you promote eg. 100 sites like me...then i will only look at porn till the end of this year :-)
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:34 PM   #10
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WOW, I am speachless. I am now at 31 trials & only 1 rebill. It just does not sound right, Anyone ever experienced something like this? MPA2 affiliate software. go figure
MPA2 has nothing to do with whether or not a site is good enough to convert members from trial to monthly. (Unless it has an option to not pay you on the rebills and the program owner is shady)
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:02 PM   #11
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WOW, I am speachless. I am now at 31 trials & only 1 rebill. It just does not sound right, Anyone ever experienced something like this? MPA2 affiliate software. go figure
1. MPA2 has nothing to do with a rebill other than reporting it from the processors

2. MPA2 can not determine how good a site retains/rebills

Judge the truth, not speculations...

Lets find the truth for you pornjudge...

Why dont you email me what program this is for and what you account id is and we will check to see if the reports are being updated correctly for your account.

If there was an MPA2 error, then I will post that back to this thread, if not, well... time will tell.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:08 PM   #12
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gosh those are some awful stats.. drop 'em, and run far away from them like there's no tomorrow
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:08 PM   #13
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Youch, that is a rough rough ratio man!
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:12 PM   #14
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i wanna know where to not send my traffic

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Old 02-10-2004, 03:12 PM   #15
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I sent evilgeniuscash 16 sales in 1 week and not 1 rebilled.
The same with totalcatfights.com. 12 trials no rebills.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:16 PM   #16
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Sounds like a shitty members area dude..!
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:18 PM   #17
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Same shit with porndollar

17 trials...and like 2-3 converted.

and I'll leave the click/signup ratio on the side.


Got to be very picky with your sponsors these days!
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:18 PM   #18
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I sent evilgeniuscash 16 sales in 1 week and not 1 rebilled.
The same with totalcatfights.com. 12 trials no rebills.
Really? I was just thinking about trying Evil Genius too...
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:26 PM   #19
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Really? I was just thinking about trying Evil Genius too...
They are having a shitload of problems with their stats.Their support is almost nonexistent .I am still waiting for replies to my emails.Doc hangs around here but i aint got nothing but bad shit with them.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:28 PM   #20
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They are having a shitload of problems with their stats.Their support is almost nonexistent .I am still waiting for replies to my emails.Doc hangs around here but i aint got nothing but bad shit with them.
Their email support? I have both kristen and TheDoc on ICQ. I'm pretty sure they're the ones behind it.

What kind of stats problems?
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:29 PM   #21
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pornjudge loves mpa2.

I spoke with him on icq earlier... he said he wished that ALL sponsors used it.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:30 PM   #22
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If you're pushing recurring be sure the content is EXCLUSIVE. Don't push these sites that use the same old ass red light dvd content that is everywhere.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:46 PM   #23
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Their email support? I have both kristen and TheDoc on ICQ. I'm pretty sure they're the ones behind it.

What kind of stats problems?
They are
" ...currently waiting on Epoch to re-dump all data to us from the start of our program. It seems, they set us up for dataplus but never started it, or rather started it correctly."

And they
".. have been fighting with MPA and Epoch over the issue for the last month and a half and it seems they finally realized it wasn't working correctly."
This was a belated response they sent 9 days ago but I have not received a reply on the status of my stats.
Whatever the reason there is no excuse for lack of reply and One can judge the quality of a program by its support.Theses stats have been fucked up for over a month now and all you get is silence.And its DEAFENING!
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:55 PM   #24
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:10 PM   #25
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If you're pushing recurring be sure the content is EXCLUSIVE. Don't push these sites that use the same old ass red light dvd content that is everywhere.
The site as exclusive content, they shoot their own content. I also posted to a niche where they love that kind of stuff. Their could be one reason for this, the site is fairly new of about 2 weeks & they only have about 10 girls doing that niche. Not allot of video yet for that niche but they also have access to all their others sites & thats a shitload of movies but I should see more then 1 rebill, thats my oppinion.
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:15 PM   #26
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i wanna know where to not send my traffic

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NOPE, I would never name anybody until their is proof of cheating but I do not suspect this sponsor of cheating yet.
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:22 PM   #27
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interesting

never see so bad results.

affiliate programms what i use - give me about 1-2 month rebills per one trial average.

time to change sponsor, isnt it?
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:24 PM   #28
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WOW, I am speachless. I am now at 31 trials & only 1 rebill. It just does not sound right, Anyone ever experienced something like this? MPA2 affiliate software. go figure
Don't blame this on MPA2, we don't have this type of problem, sounds like your member section can use some help?

Second Question: Is that 31 trials on one day and you only got one conversion to a full montly membership?

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Old 02-10-2004, 04:26 PM   #29
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average trial conversions should be like 30% or members area sucks period.
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:44 PM   #31
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yeah I definetly wouldnt call it a MPA2 issue it would be the same results no matter what stats system is used if the members area sucks
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:00 PM   #32
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interesting

never see so bad results.

affiliate programms what i use - give me about 1-2 month rebills per one trial average.

time to change sponsor, isnt it?
You are saying that on average one for one of your trials rebills?

Either you are lying or you can't read your stats if this is the case.


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average trial conversions should be like 30% or members area sucks period.
I'd actually be surprised if the industry average was that much any more. I'd also be willing to venture a guess as to the worth of most members at about 30 bucks on average.
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:33 PM   #33
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Well not to start a war on the boards, I will try to answer the above..

EGC is (was) totally fucked up. We have had the coders/support of MPA working on the issue for a good while now and are still waiting for a total correction on the issue.

Epoch, shows and has a record of ALL sign-ups and rebills from webmasters and once the repair is made, epoch will redump through dataplus all records, which MPA will then re-report the data.

Webmasters that have contacted me VIA e-mail have been givin the answer and are waiting, along with us.

If you have any questions or have problems drop me an e-mail thedoc/@/evilgeniuscash.com

As for member areas, our member areas aren?t trash they are far from it, the overall retention is rather good, unfortunately MPA is causing some rather large issues.

Sorry for the trouble..
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