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StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms
At the same time if that guy was killing people in his country and overall a horrible person to have power, would you being his neighbor really complain if he got killed?

oh good... more "what if" games. It's amazing how it always comes down to "what if" when a person is losing an argument.

Ok, sure... fine, the neighbour would be happy it turned out that way. But guess what... it didn't!

In your analogy, no neighbour phoned to report someone killing people. He reported a gun.

Now, had the police been reported the fact that he was killing people... something the police already knew... they could take proper action. But that's not what they were told. They were told he has a gun.

And yet still, the cop goes in shooting everyone. WRONG thing to do.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
You must be blind if you cannot see the hypocrisy in your statements when your country has been proven to keep things "hush hush"

You're showing me a US news article on a Canadian serial killer.... how "hush hush" can it possibly be?

Carrie · 02-10-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
How about this? What if all the rumours are true, and that Bush, and his oil bearing family had their sites

Actually I'd like to see some sites of Bush family members bearing oil.
I think that would sell pretty well. Do they have an affiliate program?
Last I checked, humans could only bear babies, so this would be a real breakthrough and we'd be right on the crest of it. Or would that be "gushing" of it?

dropped9 · 02-10-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

You're showing me a US news article on a Canadian serial killer.... how "hush hush" can it possibly be?

read the article dipshit.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-10-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms

It's a conspiracy theory. It's like if I said you put gas in your car, then got in a wreck. You put gas in your car because you wanted to get in a wreck. Just like what I just wrote its stupid. There is so much information and intelligence its hard to distinguish what is credible and what isn't. Plus, how much of that information do you think reaches the President? You are posting conspiracy theories.

YEa... dont read it.... just label it and dismiss it...

This thread is a joke.

I'm out.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

What does food have to do with peace keeping efforts?
Just went looking for the first thing you could find huh?

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
In the real world, Canada is irrelevant. You're just a tick on the United States back; another Country that the US has to worry and take care of.

For a guy named big fish, you sure come off like a guppy. Your whole point of view is couched in ignorance, not something I'd be flaunting on a public message board.

Carry on you big fish you.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

What does food have to do with peace keeping efforts?
Just went looking for the first thing you could find huh?

The world food program is the biggest giving program in the world and Canada STRUGGLES to contribute. What makes you think that its "peace efforts" even come close to amounting to ANYTHING??

usecondoms · 02-10-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

oh good... more "what if" games. It's amazing how it always comes down to "what if" when a person is losing an argument.

Ok, sure... fine, the neighbour would be happy it turned out that way. But guess what... it didn't!

In your analogy, no neighbour phoned to report someone killing people. He reported a gun.

Now, had the police been reported the fact that he was killing people... something the police already knew... they could take proper action. But that's not what they were told. They were told he has a gun.

And yet still, the cop goes in shooting everyone. WRONG thing to do.

Saddam killed his own people, are you telling me thats ok? Are you telling me you didn't worry about Saddam having power even though as I've posted already there was a link between terrorist and him? Are you also saying that Bush could start gassing certain groups of people in the US and you wouldn't want anybody to come help? I hope not, we got rid of Saddam whether we went it for the right reasons or not, we got rid of a threat and that is fine with me.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
For a guy named big fish, you sure come off like a guppy. Your whole point of view is couched in ignorance, not something I'd be flaunting on a public message board.

Carry on you big fish you.

Sure kid. Keep sitting back and reading. You might learn something.

usecondoms · 02-10-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
YEa... dont read it.... just label it and dismiss it...

This thread is a joke.

I'm out.

I read it, and its all the same

"FBI had ____ information"

"Guy saw CIA and Bin Laden together in hospital"

of course the guy is going to write things that make his story look better. Also hindsight is always 20-20. Meaning its always easier to see the facts of an attack and put things together after the fact that something happened.

sacX · 02-10-2004, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

http://www.wfp.org/aboutwfp/funding/governments.html

2002 Contributors:

Canada is among the three lowest at an unbelievable: 2.6%

Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
read the article dipshit.

I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Sure kid. Keep sitting back and reading. You might learn something.

Right. How old are you, twenty?

Judging by your snide and rather foolish opinionations here that would be being quite generous.

If you know less than shit about the rest of the world, just say so. Genius.

usecondoms · 02-10-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by sacX

Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

Notice you left out per capita.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

The world food program is the biggest giving program in the world and Canada STRUGGLES to contribute. What makes you think that its "peace efforts" even come close to amounting to ANYTHING??

uh huh, so financial aid, peace keeping forces, medical supplies.. none of this means anything at all?

If you don't think it means anything, then you live in a very very sheltered world. You continue to prove just how narrow minded you are.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Right. How old are you, twenty? Judging by your snide and rather foolish opinionations here that would be being quite generous.

If you know less than shit about the rest of the world, just say so. Genius.

Prove me wrong then. I challenge you. Middle East is not a failed society? Canada does not piggy back off of the United States?

usecondoms · 02-10-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.

Personally, I read the news that is available to me easily. However, I know the media is biased and like most businesses today try to sell their product. I make my own opinions from what I read and determine for myself how much truth I see in it. If 80 other countries said the same thing I'm sure it might be true but then again I wouldn't know until I read it.

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by sacX

Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

Yeah, the big fishy's little pie chart fails to reflect the fact that Canada has 33 million people to the USA's walloping 300+ million. lol

dropped9 · 02-10-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.

Keep telling yourself that bullshit while your goverment decides what you can and cannot be told.

usecondoms · 02-10-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

uh huh, so financial aid, peace keeping forces, medical supplies.. none of this means anything at all?

If you don't think it means anything, then you live in a very very sheltered world. You continue to prove just how narrow minded you are.

Immigration. The United States takes in more immigrants than any other country. We should be getting aide from every other country because we provide for those who can't have a good life in the country they are from. We don't get aide though we let these people come on in and eat away our resources because certain countries can't take care of their people. Face facts Canada doesn't hold a candle to the US.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

uh huh, so financial aid, peace keeping forces, medical supplies.. none of this means anything at all?

If you don't think it means anything, then you live in a very very sheltered world. You continue to prove just how narrow minded you are.

Hah you and your "sheltered world". You continue to prove how narrow minded you ARE by constantly saying that over and over as your argument.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Headless

Keep telling yourself that bullshit while your goverment decides what you can and cannot be told.

Really? So what you're saying is that everything that your media reports to you is 100% completely accurate? That if the majority of the world reports things like... oh... let's say, the worlds view of America... that they'd all be wrong and only your fav news station is right?

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Hah you and your "sheltered world". You continue to prove how narrow minded you ARE by constantly saying that over and over as your argument.

And you continue to prove how narrow minded you are by thinking your country is the only one that matters in the world.

Care to keep going around in circles all night?

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Yeah, the big fishy's little pie chart fails to reflect the fact that Canada has 33 million people to the USA's walloping 300+ million. lol

Read my post. I said Canada is irrelevant in this world. When did I say anything else? Some people need to learn to read. Again, i challenge you to prove me wrong. Middle East not a failed society? Canada not piggy backing off of the U.S.? Those were my opinions and you said they're wrong, now prove it.

dropped9 · 02-10-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

Really? So what you're saying is that everything that your media reports to you is 100% completely accurate? That if the majority of the world reports things like... oh... let's say, the worlds view of America... that they'd all be wrong and only your fav news station is right?

Dont put words in my mouth. There is a difference between the media being accurate and being told what to and what not to publish.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms

Immigration. The United States takes in more immigrants than any other country. We should be getting aide from every other country because we provide for those who can't have a good life in the country they are from. We don't get aide though we let these people come on in and eat away our resources because certain countries can't take care of their people. Face facts Canada doesn't hold a candle to the US.

uh huh.. you make it sound like Canada doesn't have any immigration itself.

You do know how many years in a row that Canada was voted the most desirable country to live in right?

Not that I even know why I'm answering this post, since this doesn't have much to do with Canada's peace keeping efforts in other nations.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

And you continue to prove how narrow minded you are by thinking your country is the only one that matters in the world.

Care to keep going around in circles all night?

You should ask yourself that question. Back to the original post: The United States is the "police" of the world whether you like it or not. Canada is the equivalent of Mexico, nothing more, nothing less.

sacX · 02-10-2004, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms

Notice you left out per capita.

uh those stats ARE per capita

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
Dont put words in my mouth. There is a difference between the media being accurate and being told what to and what not to publish.

Well then, stop changing the subject... I never once in any of my posts ever in my life said that Canada reports 100% of everything at an accuracy rate of 100% at all times. Did I?

No... so showing me that article really does nothing to disprove my posts stating that if a large majority of the world's media all reports a similar story, that maybe it would have some level of accuracy.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

You should ask yourself that question. Back to the original post: The United States is the "police" of the world whether you like it or not. Canada is the equivalent of Mexico, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, and you know nothing about the world. I'm glad we're in all in agreement

flashfire · 02-10-2004, 02:08 AM

You are clearly blinded by the flag in your sig...not looking at things objectively you would support the US in any argument even if bush said the sky was green you would support him...

dropped9 · 02-10-2004, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

Well then, stop changing the subject... I never once in any of my posts ever in my life said that Canada reports 100% of everything at an accuracy rate of 100% at all times. Did I?

No... so showing me that article really does nothing to disprove my posts stating that if a large majority of the world's media all reports a similar story, that maybe it would have some level of accuracy.

No subject is being changed. You keep trying to spin this arguement in many different ways. You bash the US and its reasons for doing different things, but yet you come from a country that obviously has some skeletons in its closet.

That was my point. Hypocrisy.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by flashfire
You are clearly blinded by the flag in your sig...not looking at things objectively you would support the US in any argument even if bush said the sky was green you would support him...

Such a big statement on my ONE argument. There's a lot of things that I don't agree with that Bush does. You're blind and ignorant for concluding that you know me by just reading one post and looking at my sig.

Joe Citizen · 02-10-2004, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

http://www.wfp.org/aboutwfp/funding/governments.html

2002 Contributors:

Canada is among the three lowest at an unbelievable: 2.6%

Hey fuckwit, maybe you should work that out on a per capita basis.

Anything else is bullshit.

bhutocracy · 02-10-2004, 02:19 AM

I just think it would be funny for kerry to get in just to see all the positions here reverse and have all the right wingers whine and moan like they did during the clinton years and the lefties try and defend the government.

flashfire · 02-10-2004, 02:20 AM

Sorry its hard to take anyone seriously with a flag in their sig...any country

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen

Hey fuckwit, maybe you should work that out on a per capita basis.

Anything else is bullshit.

Welcome to the thread

. Maybe you should read it all before you write dumbass.

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by flashfire
Sorry its hard to take anyone seriously with a flag in their sig...any country

Then don't. Just keep reading and believing that I would believe in green clouds then.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
No subject is being changed. You keep trying to spin this arguement in many different ways. You bash the US and its reasons for doing different things, but yet you come from a country that obviously has some skeletons in its closet.

That was my point. Hypocrisy.

Uhmm.. ok. So the US wants to go into Iraq and the majority of the world says it shouldn't. But it does anyway.

What does the majority of the world think should happen with the pig farmer?

Oh, don't get me wrong, yes.... Canada has it's share of problems with it's own media. Believe me, I know.

But the US's reasons for doing things is at question... by the world. The world doesn't question why there's info not shared about murders in the US.. just as the world doesn't question about info in Canadian murders.

So my "bashing" the US's reasons and your post about a murder aren't really comparative.

however, if ever I feel the need to question why the US media isn't sharing details of a serial killer's pig farm, then I'll be sure to admit that you were right.

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Prove me wrong then. I challenge you. Middle East is not a failed society? Canada does not piggy back off of the United States?

Here's the thing fish boy...... now try to follow along here.... first off, I don't necessarily agree with Masked man's whole anti-bush/anti-U.S. stance, never have for that matter. Anyone who has been here long enough to have participated on past political threads where I've posted would know that, but this may have slipped past you so I'll give you that one.

Anyway..... as far as your Middle East comment goes.... Maybe I do agree with you. What exactly is your whole argument? I don't recall taking issue with you on it in this thread, but whatever.

I do however take issue with your absolutely ignorant, and completely misguided views on my country. Your comments show how completely clueless some Americans are about history, and how utterly ungrateful and unappreciative a few of you can be. Thankfully most are not like you.

Btw before I go on I must interject.... YOU are the one tossing out little ditties and such, thus the onus of proof is on YOU to back up your bullshit. The onus is not on ME to disprove you... I have nothing to prove to you.... Canada's track record speaks for itself. Period. In the areas of diplomacy, foreign aid, peacekeeping, and yes, even in wartime, we have proven ourselves over and over and will continue to do so.

Want an example? For the size of our population, no country on Earth raised an army as large as ours during WWII..... that's right, tiny Canada's forces grew to over 500,000 strong from 1940 through '45. And, anyone in the know about military history will attest to the high level of training and raw killer determination the average Canadian soldier possesses, even today. We may not have billions of dollars worth of high-tech hardware but we know how to fight my friend.

For the record I appreciate the USA for the most part, and have openly supported much of your country's actions on the world front over the years. But remember.... several hundred Canadians died in the WTC alongside all those Americans. I believe Saddam got what he deserved, and I applaud Bush's non-comromising stance on Terrorism and on countries that supoort it. What I won't stand for is some dipshit cocking off like a cumquat about my country when they obviously need to crack a history book and get educated.

Cheers.

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Welcome to the thread . Maybe you should read it all before you write dumbass.

why? He was right. And since you refused to even comment on what he said other than to pull a "gfy tough guy" attitude post instead... I'm guessing you agree.

foreverjason · 02-10-2004, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Prove me wrong then. I challenge you. Middle East is not a failed society? Canada does not piggy back off of the United States?

Ya prove BigFish wrong. Lets see it CDSmith.

Your telling us America didnt make Japan/Germany into the super powers they are today?

StuartD · 02-10-2004, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Here's the thing fish boy...... now try to follow along here.... first off, I don't necessarily agree with Masked man's whole anti-bush/anti-U.S. stance, never have for that matter. Anyone who has been here long enough to have participated on past political threads where I've posted would know that, but this may have slipped past you so I'll give you that one.

heh... now now, anti-US is a little strong. I, like you, very much like the US and also a good portion of my friends and colleagues are American.

I've been on the boards for a while, and never said anything until this whole Iraq thing happened.

So, I'm not anti-US.... I'm anti-invasion or... liberation, or what ever you want to call it.

Well, even then, as I've said, I'm all for Saddam being out of power, I always just had issues with the way it all went about, the reasons given, hidden, lied about... all that fun stuff.

But I digress... I'm not anti-US. I just have my reservations about Bush being any good for the country.

Joe Citizen · 02-10-2004, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Welcome to the thread . Maybe you should read it all before you write dumbass.

I read everything you fucktard.

Now why don't you be a good boy and find some stats that are actually relevent on a per capita basis.

Like I said, anything else is bullshit.

Roger · 02-10-2004, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms
The British paper the telegraph, during the war discovered documents in the rubble of a government building that revealed a visit of an envoy from Sudan, which consisted of al-Qa'eda representavies. This envoy intended to discuss future cooperation between the Iraqi government and Bin Laden's network.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ixportaltop.htm

You know very well that those documents where proven to be fake yet you insist on mentioning that article from last year. Do you think people are stupid enough to buy it again?

BigFish · 02-10-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Here's the thing fish boy...... now try to follow along here.... first off, I don't necessarily agree with Masked man's whole anti-bush/anti-U.S. stance, never have for that matter. Anyone who has been here long enough to have participated on past political threads where I've posted would know that, but this may have slipped past you so I'll give you that one.

Anyway..... as far as your Middle East comment goes.... Maybe I do agree with you. What exactly is your whole argument? I don't recall taking issue with you on it in this thread, but whatever.

I do however take issue with your absolutely ignorant, and completely misguided views on my country. Your comments show how completely clueless some Americans are about history, and how utterly ungrateful and unappreciative a few of you can be. Thankfully most are not like you.

Btw before I go on I must interject.... YOU are the one tossing out little ditties and such, thus the onus of proof is on YOU to back up your bullshit. The onus is not on ME to disprove you... I have nothing to prove to you.... Canada's track record speaks for itself. Period. In the areas of diplomacy, foreign aid, peacekeeping, and yes, even in wartime, we have proven ourselves over and over and will continue to do so.

Want an example? For the size of our population, no country on Earth raised an army as large as ours during WWII..... that's right, tiny Canada's forces grew to over 500,000 strong from 1940 through '45. And, anyone in the know about military history will attest to the high level of training and raw killer determination the average Canadian soldier possesses, even today. We may not have billions of dollars worth of high-tech hardware but we know how to fight my friend.

For the record I appreciate the USA for the most part, and have openly supported much of your country's actions on the world front over the years. But remember.... several hundred Canadians died in the WTC alongside all those Americans. I believe Saddam got what he deserved, and I applaud Bush's non-comromising stance on Terrorism and on countries that supoort it. What I won't stand for is some dipshit cocking off like a cumquat about my country when they obviously need to crack a history book and get educated.

Cheers.

I have to prove what? You're the one jumping into the conversation and saying that "what I am posting" is utterly wrong. Did I ever question the determination of a "Canadian Soldier"??? I thank them along with the rest of my country for their services in Iraq. My two biggest opinions in this thread are: the Middle East is a failed society and something needs to be done and the USA is the only threat of force in today's world that can do anything about it.

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
I have to prove what? You're the one jumping into the conversation and saying that "what I am posting" is utterly wrong. Did I ever question the determination of a "Canadian Soldier"??? I thank them along with the rest of my country for their services in Iraq. My two biggest opinions in this thread are: the Middle East is a failed society and something needs to be done and the USA is the only threat of force in today's world that can do anything about it.

Then I must have imagined your comments about Canada being "a tick on the ass of the United States", "useless" etc....... my mistake. You're really not a fucknut.

Roger · 02-10-2004, 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
I have to prove what? You're the one jumping into the conversation and saying that "what I am posting" is utterly wrong. Did I ever question the determination of a "Canadian Soldier"??? I thank them along with the rest of my country for their services in Iraq. My two biggest opinions in this thread are: the Middle East is a failed society and something needs to be done and the USA is the only threat of force in today's world that can do anything about it.

The Middle East is a failed society because of the super powers constant meddling. You think the world is gonna collapse all of a sudden if the US doesn't intervene? There are lots of places in the world who keep asking for help and who are doing way worst than Iraq. Yet nothing is being done.

The ME is becoming increasingly a place for Muslims and Muslims only. Maybe you'd like to live under Sharia law but non-Muslim Iraqis can't stand this crap. If the invasion is such a good thing, I wonder why my friends and relatives are getting the hell outta there. How would you feel if you received death treats and lost your job for being Christian?

CDSmith · 02-10-2004, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
I thank them along with the rest of my country for their services in Iraq.

The only services Canada has provided the US-led coalition regarding this latest Iraq campaign is that eleven of our ships have provided blockade duty in the Persian Gulf. Our presence there protected your warships from such things as mines and acts of terrorism so they could focus on pounding the hell out of resistance in Iraq. Beyond that, our government did not support the action.

For those that are even remotely interested......

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Canada
The Canadian Forces or its component regiments have fought in the <a href="/wiki/War_of_1812" class='internal' title ="War of 1812">War of 1812</a>, the <a href="/w/wiki.phtml?title=Fenian_Raids&action=edit" class='new' title ="Fenian Raids">Fenian Raids</a> (1841-1871), <a href="/wiki/North-West_Rebellion" class='internal' title ="North-West Rebellion">North-West Rebellion</a> (1885), the <a href="/wiki/Boer_War" class='internal' title ="Boer War">Boer War</a>, <a href="/wiki/World_War_I" class='internal' title ="World War I">World War I</a>, <a href="/wiki/World_War_II" class='internal' title ="World War II">World War II</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Korean_Conflict" class='internal' title ="Korean Conflict">Korean Conflict</a>, the <a href="/wiki/First_Gulf_War" class='internal' title ="First Gulf War">First Gulf War</a>, and have contributed to UN and other peacekeeping missions and undeclared wars, notably the <a href="/wiki/Suez_Crisis" class='internal' title ="Suez Crisis">Suez Crisis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cyprus" class='internal' title ="Cyprus">Cyprus</a>, <a href="/wiki/Croatia" class='internal' title ="Croatia">Croatia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bosnia" class='internal' title ="Bosnia">Bosnia</a>, and the <a href="/wiki/War_on_Terrorism" class='internal' title ="War on Terrorism">War on Terrorism</a> (Afghanistan). Canada is a charter member of <a href="/wiki/NATO" class='internal' title ="NATO">NATO</a> and a member of the North American Air Defence treaty (<a href="/wiki/NORAD" class='internal' title ="NORAD">NORAD</a>).

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<b>At the end of World War II, Canada possessed the third largest navy and fourth largest air force in the world, as well as the largest all-volunteer army ever fielded</b> (<a href="/wiki/Conscription" class='internal' title ="Conscription">conscription</a> was only introduced near the end of the war, and no conscripts actually made it into battle). Defence spending and manpower remained high during the early years of <a href="/wiki/Cold_War" class='internal' title ="Cold War">Cold War</a> but began to decline in the 1960s and 1970s as the perceived threat from the <a href="/wiki/Warsaw_Pact" class='internal' title ="Warsaw Pact">Warsaw Pact</a> diminished. Throughout the 1990s successive budget cuts have forced further reductions in the manpower, number of bases, and fighting ability of the Canadian Armed Forces. Sizable Canadian air and land forces were maintained in West Germany under NATO command from the end of World War II until the early 1990s.

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See also: <a href="/wiki/Canadian_military_history" class='internal' title ="Canadian military history">Canadian military history</a>

02-10-2004, 02:08 AM	#132
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	You are clearly blinded by the flag in your sig...not looking at things objectively you would support the US in any argument even if bush said the sky was green you would support him...

02-10-2004, 02:19 AM	#136
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	I just think it would be funny for kerry to get in just to see all the positions here reverse and have all the right wingers whine and moan like they did during the clinton years and the lefties try and defend the government.

02-10-2004, 02:20 AM	#137
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	Sorry its hard to take anyone seriously with a flag in their sig...any country