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StuartD 02-10-2004 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by Headless


There was a difference between what I said and your over inflated blabber.

Still haven't answered my question.... never will I suspect. Strange though since I answered yours.

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
So your saying no one should ever be put to death or imprisioned becasue the facts point to a crime. Thats rediculous.


FACT + FACT + FACT does not = theory

You're comparing two different things. If evidence suggest that a person committed a crime, its a lot easier to establish that as fact. However, when you accuse the President and the Gov't of letting thousands of people die for economic gains, you better have some solid facts and not just an sources and stuff. The only people that know whether it was for those reasons are the people who are being accused.

- Jesus Christ - 02-10-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms


You're comparing two different things. If evidence suggest that a person committed a crime, its a lot easier to establish that as fact. However, when you accuse the President and the Gov't of letting thousands of people die for economic gains, you better have some solid facts and not just an sources and stuff. The only people that know whether it was for those reasons are the people who are being accused.

DUde...


More read... LEss talk.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...1_02_lucy.html

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


The world did. Whenever there's chaos and havoc in the world, who do they call first?? Canada? I think not. Oh wait, they call the United Nations right? Now where does the majority of United Nation's "threat of force" come from? Canada? Mexico?.. hmmm that's a tough one.

You guys obviously don't keep up on Canadian peace keeping efforts huh?

I guess I should have expected answers like this from people who have such sheltered views of the world.

You don't really even realize there are other countries in the world, do you?

You should look up some of what Canada has done, you'd be amazed. Honestly.

BigFish 02-10-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


About there being nothing there? Why should we? It's a world matter... which is why the world had a say in it. And the world spoke. We listened. That makes us the bad guys? Turns out, the world was right, at least from what we know so far.

Ok, using that analogy then....

a neighbour has a gun.... so an inspector finds nothing, but the police are brought in.

Ok, police #1 is the US, goes in and just starts shooting everyone and blows up the foundation of the house.... and finds nothing.

Police #2, Canada, decides that more time is needed and that there's nothing that warrants the use of force or violence.

Guess what, in the real world... if a police officer goes in guns blazing and killing thousands because someone "may" have seen a gun.... heh... well, the cop isn't really in for a promotion, if ya know what I mean.

In the real world, Canada is irrelevant. You're just a tick on the United States back; another Country that the US has to worry and take care of.

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


About there being nothing there? Why should we? It's a world matter... which is why the world had a say in it. And the world spoke. We listened. That makes us the bad guys? Turns out, the world was right, at least from what we know so far.

Ok, using that analogy then....

a neighbour has a gun.... so an inspector finds nothing, but the police are brought in.

Ok, police #1 is the US, goes in and just starts shooting everyone and blows up the foundation of the house.... and finds nothing.

Police #2, Canada, decides that more time is needed and that there's nothing that warrants the use of force or violence.

Guess what, in the real world... if a police officer goes in guns blazing and killing thousands because someone "may" have seen a gun.... heh... well, the cop isn't really in for a promotion, if ya know what I mean.


Its amazing the jealously that comes from ppl outside of the US. The world decided? HA! You're joking right? What about the the money france was owed by Saddam for providing weapons and gear and what not? That didnt have any effect on their descion did it? LOL

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


About there being nothing there? Why should we? It's a world matter... which is why the world had a say in it. And the world spoke. We listened. That makes us the bad guys? Turns out, the world was right, at least from what we know so far.

Ok, using that analogy then....

a neighbour has a gun.... so an inspector finds nothing, but the police are brought in.

Ok, police #1 is the US, goes in and just starts shooting everyone and blows up the foundation of the house.... and finds nothing.

Police #2, Canada, decides that more time is needed and that there's nothing that warrants the use of force or violence.

Guess what, in the real world... if a police officer goes in guns blazing and killing thousands because someone "may" have seen a gun.... heh... well, the cop isn't really in for a promotion, if ya know what I mean.

At the same time if that guy was killing people in his country and overall a horrible person to have power, would you being his neighbor really complain if he got killed?

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


You guys obviously don't keep up on Canadian peace keeping efforts huh?

I guess I should have expected answers like this from people who have such sheltered views of the world.

You don't really even realize there are other countries in the world, do you?

You should look up some of what Canada has done, you'd be amazed. Honestly.

Sheltered views? Canada has done? Yeah real nice peace keepin going on in this article...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110477,00.html

Sucks not having freedom of the press eh?

darksoft 02-10-2004 01:34 AM

France is a fucking joke no matter how you tell it. They should just crawl back in their hidey-hole.

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
In the real world, Canada is irrelevant. You're just a tick on the United States back; another Country that the US has to worry and take care of.
Wow... guess I was right about you after all. Are you sure you're not German? Figure you're part of the super race huh? Only answer to one dictator, do ya?

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Headless


Sheltered views? Canada has done? Yeah real nice peace keepin going on in this article...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110477,00.html

Sucks not having freedom of the press eh?

uhm.... I'm really confused as to why you keep bringing this article up. Is it the only thing you've ever read about Canada? Don't you have anything else?

You know, preferrably something that's even remotely close to what we're talking about?

born4porn 02-10-2004 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
FUCK THAT!

im taking my third party vote and giving it to whichever democrat runs ...

Why would anyone want bush to stay in office? Cause he sent a bunch of people over to die and to kick the shit out of Iraq? Thats a disgrace. Should've spent the time effort and money and BLOODSHED looking for Bin Laden.

we "liberated a country" ... what a bunch of shit ... according to that philosophy, why arent we liberating the children sold into sexual slavery around the world? why arent we liberating our own country? Why arent teachers paid more? and WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE CHOOSE LIFE LICENSE TAGS IN FLORIDA???

Im all for an active strong military to show the other nutcases that we are ready if they want to fuck around, but this is bullshit. Intellegence is the only weapon against terrorism, and even then it is imperfect because a zealout who wants to kill americans is gonna find a way to do it. thats the definition of terrorism.

I know what my opinion is worth, but i think we should keep a close eye on the rest of the world, but stop fucking with them so much.

well said :thumbsup

RawAlex 02-10-2004 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Headless



You would be the same fucker crying if bush did nothing after 9-11.

Headless: Bush and his buddies have convinced you that 9-11 and Saddam are related. they are not. Osama HATES Saddam, they have fundimental differences on EVERYTHING, Osama considers him an infidel, and has made statements exactly to that effect.

You have been bamboozled by your government, encouraged to think that getting Saddam somehow is revenge for 9-11. That is like spanking your kid because the neighbor's kid was bad.

Oh well!

Alex

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Headless



Its amazing the jealously that comes from ppl outside of the US. The world decided? HA! You're joking right? What about the the money france was owed by Saddam for providing weapons and gear and what not? That didnt have any effect on their descion did it? LOL

Can you please point to the place in my post where it said "the world decided"? I can't find it.
I said they spoke. They voiced their opinion... we listened. Turns out, they were right.

Guess what that means Sherlock... means we listened to the opinion of the US as well. Turns out that Canada just felt there wasn't quite enough to go on, and what do ya know? Right again!

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
DUde...


More read... LEss talk.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...1_02_lucy.html

It's a conspiracy theory. It's like if I said you put gas in your car, then got in a wreck. You put gas in your car because you wanted to get in a wreck. Just like what I just wrote its stupid. There is so much information and intelligence its hard to distinguish what is credible and what isn't. Plus, how much of that information do you think reaches the President? You are posting conspiracy theories.

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


uhm.... I'm really confused as to why you keep bringing this article up. Is it the only thing you've ever read about Canada? Don't you have anything else?

You know, preferrably something that's even remotely close to what we're talking about?


You must be blind if you cannot see the hypocrisy in your statements when your country has been proven to keep things "hush hush"

Shaggy 02-10-2004 01:37 AM

I use to be a Democrat until I heard they were for affirmative action. That is bullshit, giving minorities an advantage just because of their skin color. Fucking pathetic, if I was black I would be multi by now. :feels-hot

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by RawAlex


Headless: Bush and his buddies have convinced you that 9-11 and Saddam are related. they are not. Osama HATES Saddam, they have fundimental differences on EVERYTHING, Osama considers him an infidel, and has made statements exactly to that effect.

You have been bamboozled by your government, encouraged to think that getting Saddam somehow is revenge for 9-11. That is like spanking your kid because the neighbor's kid was bad.

Oh well!

Alex

The British paper the telegraph, during the war discovered documents in the rubble of a government building that revealed a visit of an envoy from Sudan, which consisted of al-Qa'eda representavies. This envoy intended to discuss future cooperation between the Iraqi government and Bin Laden's network.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ixportaltop.htm

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex


Headless: Bush and his buddies have convinced you that 9-11 and Saddam are related. they are not. Osama HATES Saddam, they have fundimental differences on EVERYTHING, Osama considers him an infidel, and has made statements exactly to that effect.

You have been bamboozled by your government, encouraged to think that getting Saddam somehow is revenge for 9-11. That is like spanking your kid because the neighbor's kid was bad.

Oh well!

Alex


Where did I say Osama and Saddam were connected? No where. Re-read my statements.

BigFish 02-10-2004 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


uhm.... I'm really confused as to why you keep bringing this article up. Is it the only thing you've ever read about Canada? Don't you have anything else?

You know, preferrably something that's even remotely close to what we're talking about?

World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

http://www.wfp.org/aboutwfp/funding/governments.html

2002 Contributors:

http://www.wfp.org/img/aboutwfp/funding/pie.gif

Canada is among the three lowest at an unbelievable: 2.6%

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms
At the same time if that guy was killing people in his country and overall a horrible person to have power, would you being his neighbor really complain if he got killed?
oh good... more "what if" games. It's amazing how it always comes down to "what if" when a person is losing an argument.

Ok, sure... fine, the neighbour would be happy it turned out that way. But guess what... it didn't!

In your analogy, no neighbour phoned to report someone killing people. He reported a gun.

Now, had the police been reported the fact that he was killing people... something the police already knew... they could take proper action. But that's not what they were told. They were told he has a gun.

And yet still, the cop goes in shooting everyone. WRONG thing to do.

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
You must be blind if you cannot see the hypocrisy in your statements when your country has been proven to keep things "hush hush"
You're showing me a US news article on a Canadian serial killer.... how "hush hush" can it possibly be?

Carrie 02-10-2004 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
How about this? What if all the rumours are true, and that Bush, and his oil bearing family had their sites
Actually I'd like to see some sites of Bush family members bearing oil.
I think that would sell pretty well. Do they have an affiliate program?
Last I checked, humans could only bear babies, so this would be a real breakthrough and we'd be right on the crest of it. Or would that be "gushing" of it?

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


You're showing me a US news article on a Canadian serial killer.... how "hush hush" can it possibly be?

read the article dipshit.

- Jesus Christ - 02-10-2004 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by usecondoms


It's a conspiracy theory. It's like if I said you put gas in your car, then got in a wreck. You put gas in your car because you wanted to get in a wreck. Just like what I just wrote its stupid. There is so much information and intelligence its hard to distinguish what is credible and what isn't. Plus, how much of that information do you think reaches the President? You are posting conspiracy theories.

YEa... dont read it.... just label it and dismiss it...

This thread is a joke.


I'm out.

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

What does food have to do with peace keeping efforts?
Just went looking for the first thing you could find huh?

CDSmith 02-10-2004 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
In the real world, Canada is irrelevant. You're just a tick on the United States back; another Country that the US has to worry and take care of.
For a guy named big fish, you sure come off like a guppy. Your whole point of view is couched in ignorance, not something I'd be flaunting on a public message board.


Carry on you big fish you. :thumbsup

BigFish 02-10-2004 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


What does food have to do with peace keeping efforts?
Just went looking for the first thing you could find huh?

The world food program is the biggest giving program in the world and Canada STRUGGLES to contribute. What makes you think that its "peace efforts" even come close to amounting to ANYTHING??

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


oh good... more "what if" games. It's amazing how it always comes down to "what if" when a person is losing an argument.

Ok, sure... fine, the neighbour would be happy it turned out that way. But guess what... it didn't!

In your analogy, no neighbour phoned to report someone killing people. He reported a gun.

Now, had the police been reported the fact that he was killing people... something the police already knew... they could take proper action. But that's not what they were told. They were told he has a gun.

And yet still, the cop goes in shooting everyone. WRONG thing to do.

Saddam killed his own people, are you telling me thats ok? Are you telling me you didn't worry about Saddam having power even though as I've posted already there was a link between terrorist and him? Are you also saying that Bush could start gassing certain groups of people in the US and you wouldn't want anybody to come help? I hope not, we got rid of Saddam whether we went it for the right reasons or not, we got rid of a threat and that is fine with me.

BigFish 02-10-2004 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
For a guy named big fish, you sure come off like a guppy. Your whole point of view is couched in ignorance, not something I'd be flaunting on a public message board.


Carry on you big fish you. :thumbsup

Sure kid. Keep sitting back and reading. You might learn something.

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
YEa... dont read it.... just label it and dismiss it...

This thread is a joke.


I'm out.

I read it, and its all the same

"FBI had ____ information"

"Guy saw CIA and Bin Laden together in hospital"

of course the guy is going to write things that make his story look better. Also hindsight is always 20-20. Meaning its always easier to see the facts of an attack and put things together after the fact that something happened.

sacX 02-10-2004 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


World Food Program. Biggest program in the world helping out millions of needy worldwide.

http://www.wfp.org/aboutwfp/funding/governments.html

2002 Contributors:

http://www.wfp.org/img/aboutwfp/funding/pie.gif

Canada is among the three lowest at an unbelievable: 2.6%

Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
read the article dipshit.
I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.

CDSmith 02-10-2004 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Sure kid. Keep sitting back and reading. You might learn something.
Right. How old are you, twenty? :1orglaugh Judging by your snide and rather foolish opinionations here that would be being quite generous.


If you know less than shit about the rest of the world, just say so. Genius.

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by sacX


Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

Notice you left out per capita.

StuartD 02-10-2004 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


The world food program is the biggest giving program in the world and Canada STRUGGLES to contribute. What makes you think that its "peace efforts" even come close to amounting to ANYTHING??

uh huh, so financial aid, peace keeping forces, medical supplies.. none of this means anything at all?

If you don't think it means anything, then you live in a very very sheltered world. You continue to prove just how narrow minded you are.

BigFish 02-10-2004 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Right. How old are you, twenty? :1orglaugh Judging by your snide and rather foolish opinionations here that would be being quite generous.


If you know less than shit about the rest of the world, just say so. Genius.

Prove me wrong then. I challenge you. Middle East is not a failed society? Canada does not piggy back off of the United States?

usecondoms 02-10-2004 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.

Personally, I read the news that is available to me easily. However, I know the media is biased and like most businesses today try to sell their product. I make my own opinions from what I read and determine for myself how much truth I see in it. If 80 other countries said the same thing I'm sure it might be true but then again I wouldn't know until I read it.

CDSmith 02-10-2004 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by sacX


Top 100 economic aid (per person)

1. Luxembourg $356.69 per person
2. Norway $309.38 per person
3. Denmark $303.6 per person
4. Netherlands $217.83 per person
5. Sweden $191.51 per person
6. Switzerland $150.64 per person
7. France $105.41 per person
8. United Kingdom $75.28 per person
..15. Australia $45.74 per person
16. Canada $40.75 per person
20. United States $24.59 per person

Europe is a little bit ahead. - Source CIA: World Fact Book

Yeah, the big fishy's little pie chart fails to reflect the fact that Canada has 33 million people to the USA's walloping 300+ million. lol

dropped9 02-10-2004 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


I did read it... sure, they don't want the media showing the grotesque details.

Perhaps if your own media didn't show people getting blown up right in the field all the time, you'd be less likely to be cheering it on wishing for more.

Besides, it still has no bearing on what we're talking about.

Ok, try to follow along. BigFish and condom boy are talking about national and international news sources... I ask if they think that news sources from other countries hate them and only post what they want.

Now, Canada is hardly international to me, is it? But it is to you.

Will they shelter me from gruesome deaths? Sure, will they shelter you? No, who cares about you? But also, what if 80 other countries all tell you the same thing? Would you start to believe what you read from them all or only believe what your own media tells you?

The moral of the story? Don't believe only what your own news media tells you. Look to outside sources, because if the majority of the world is saying something, there's a good chance that it may know what it's talking about.


Keep telling yourself that bullshit while your goverment decides what you can and cannot be told. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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