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Old 02-08-2004, 03:19 PM   #151
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:31 PM   #152
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Exactly

choker - your attempts at pretending to be a big shot are just funny. thanks for the amusement.


a wise man once told me - if it doesn't add up someone's full of shit.

Obviously I don't add very well and you know exactly what your talking about Choker.
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:38 PM   #153
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lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.

and no real host would consider a client that only pays them $7k a month a major client - more like an annoyance.
You know man, you REALY are a fucking asshole. You come in here and start your childish shit again with your subtle hints that my traffic is fake. THOUSANDS of buyers know my traffic is not fake. Do you think I need to prove anything to your dumbass? FUCK YOU. Keep talking smack PUNK.

People say Nah I have met Sleazy in person and he is a nice guy. BULLSHIT. You are a fucking asshole. You just don't have the balls to say to peoples face what you can type on GFY.

And don't start the "I will be in Cancun blah blah what the fuck ever. Here's the deal asshole, don't icq me, I won't icq you. Don't come up to me at a convention I won't come up to you at a convention. Just leave me the fuck alone and I will leave you alone. Continue the accusations about my traffic again and I will put you in your place again. ASSHOLE
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:47 PM   #154
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You know man, you REALY are a fucking asshole. You come in here and start your childish shit again with your subtle hints that my traffic is fake. THOUSANDS of buyers know my traffic is not fake. Do you think I need to prove anything to your dumbass? FUCK YOU. Keep talking smack PUNK.

People say Nah I have met Sleazy in person and he is a nice guy. BULLSHIT. You are a fucking asshole. You just don't have the balls to say to peoples face what you can type on GFY.

And don't start the "I will be in Cancun blah blah what the fuck ever. Here's the deal asshole, don't icq me, I won't icq you. Don't come up to me at a convention I won't come up to you at a convention. Just leave me the fuck alone and I will leave you alone. Continue the accusations about my traffic again and I will put you in your place again. ASSHOLE

i assume that shaking your hand in your mind means I'm supposed to turn a blind eye to someone posting utter stupidity??

people only get pissed when you get close to the truth.

choker doesn't like the truth, all I'm grilling him on is what he already brought to the table. He's avoiding the issue.

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...I run these TGP's on 5 servers for a hosting cost of $300 a month.
Please choker - tell me. Where can I ger 5 servers that come with enough bandwidth to handle 500,000 hits a day for $300 a month.

Please tell me, I'd really like to know. Is this offer for everyone or only (surprise surprise) the Almightly Choker? lol !
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:48 PM   #155
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I dont know which i dislike more, 1000 Choker tgps or the possibility there could now be 1000 Choker Jrs each trying to make 1000 more tgps. The exponential growth of free porn is going to be ultimately bad for the industry imo.
Actually Choker's tgp's and all the Choker clones out there aren't that bad.
They slap the surfer around alot more than the average TGP and the galleries used in the program are more agressive sales wise than what you find on most run of the mill TGP's. (pics on html, big pic linked to the paysite, etc)

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Please choker - tell me. Where can I ger 5 servers that come with enough bandwidth to handle 500,000 hits a day for $300 a month.

Please tell me, I'd really like to know. Is this offer for everyone or only (surprise surprise) the Almightly Choker? lol !

Put a $1000 where your mouth is. I will put up a $1000.
Are you CHICKEN ???
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:52 PM   #157
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Please choker - tell me. Where can I ger 5 servers that come with enough bandwidth to handle 500,000 hits a day for $300 a month.

Please tell me, I'd really like to know. Is this offer for everyone or only (surprise surprise) the Almightly Choker? lol !

Put a $1000 where your mouth is. I will put up a $1000.
Are you CHICKEN ???
why should I pay your bandwidth for 3 and a 1/2months??

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Old 02-08-2004, 03:53 PM   #158
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why should I pay your bandwidth for 3 and a 1/2months??

Thought so CHICKEN. You said I am not paying this and I offered a $1000 bet that I was, and of course you CHICKENED out. Punk
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:57 PM   #159
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Please choker - tell me. Where can I ger 5 servers that come with enough bandwidth to handle 500,000 hits a day for $300 a month.

Please tell me, I'd really like to know. Is this offer for everyone or only (surprise surprise) the Almightly Choker? lol !
Is it really hard to understand that he's getting a good deal at his current hosting company? LOTS of people get this, it's nothing new.
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:57 PM   #160
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:00 PM   #162
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Is it really hard to understand that he's getting a good deal at his current hosting company? LOTS of people get this, it's nothing new.
it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.

if something looks too good to be true it usually is - esp when someone gets overly emotional about it like choker is doing now.
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Is it really hard to understand that he's getting a good deal at his current hosting company? LOTS of people get this, it's nothing new.
Sleazy is just a asshole man. He is JEALOUS of anyone that makes in this biz that refuses to kiss his ass.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:02 PM   #164
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Sleazy is just a asshole man. He is JEALOUS of anyone that makes in this biz that refuses to kiss his ass.
yep, obviously that's what it is..


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it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.

if something looks too good to be true it usually is - esp when someone gets overly emotional about it like choker is doing now.
Overly emotional? I am sick of you dude. Tired of your childish way of saying my traffic is fake. You and I both know very well what you are trying to do. You are a childish asshole who constanty tries to attack my business in a GUTLESS COWARDS way and I am a sick of it. You are a punk Sleazy and you know it don't you ??
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We ought to have a GFY measuring tape for all the mano y mano drama. Just let em whip it out and measure it one time for record and then when the fights start...well hell you can all point to one thing instead of bitch slapping each other repeatedly over hundreds of posts.
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it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.
Ofcourse, it's cheap but you said this:

sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real.

I don't think this is fair.

You run lots of thumbs which costs more bandwidth etc. There are so many factors...
His traffic is 100% real, no doubt about it,
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Overly emotional? I am sick of you dude. Tired of your childish way of saying my traffic is fake. You and I both know very well what you are trying to do. You are a childish asshole who constanty tries to attack my business in a GUTLESS COWARDS way and I am a sick of it. You are a punk Sleazy and you know it don't you ??
choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.
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No no contest needed. This Sleazy is obsessed with me and it is gettying creepy. He constantly tries to make me look like a thief and everytime he gets his ass handed to him yet he does not stop. Fucking stalker is what he is. He trys to be subtle but it is obvious what his intent is. He needs to mind his own business instead of sticking his fat nose in everyone elses.
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Ofcourse, it's cheap but you said this:

sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real.

I don't think this is fair.

You run lots of thumbs which costs more bandwidth etc. There are so many factors...
His traffic is 100% real, no doubt about it,
i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

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choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.
LOL, only person wondering is you asshole, See once again you try to attack me in your yellowbelly way by saying this...

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.

Next you will post that you are getting icqs from major players asking you if Chokers traffic is fake or not. You are so full of shit Sleazy. You are such a scumbag dude.
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i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

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I'm pretty sure Choker has a LOT more servers at the same hosting company for his galleries. So you could say he wouldn't get the same deal if he didn't had these gallery servers. True.

Choker would have to correct me if I'm wrong though but I'm pretty sure he has more servers there.
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No no contest needed. This Sleazy is obsessed with me and it is gettying creepy. He constantly tries to make me look like a thief and everytime he gets his ass handed to him yet he does not stop. Fucking stalker is what he is. He trys to be subtle but it is obvious what his intent is. He needs to mind his own business instead of sticking his fat nose in everyone elses.
lol

i pick on everyone and anyone on GFY, but for some reason you and pichuter think that if I comment on you saying something stupid in your threads I'm STALKING YOU.. too funny

anyone who has a clue about psychology knows that thoughts like that usually (not always, it's quite possible you're just crazy) come from a guilty concious.
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I'm pretty sure Choker has a LOT more servers at the same hosting company for his galleries. So you could say he wouldn't get the same deal if he didn't had these gallery servers. True.

Choker would have to correct me if I'm wrong though.
you just proved my point though - if what you're saying is true then the $300 figgure isn't a true representation of the real cost - as the real cost is tied into the other business he does as well.
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choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.
lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.


Dude people see thru your bullshit. You thru in the "unless the traffic isn't real" for what reason? LOL. YELLOW BELLY PUNK
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lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.


Dude people see thru your bullshit. You thru in the "unless the traffic isn't real" for what reason? LOL. YELLOW BELLY PUNK
i 'threw it in' cause that's one way to get 500,000 hits a day for a cost of $300.

and it is a possible reason. I never said that was the reason, but it is one possible reason.

it's also possible that noone loads any of your pages and always clicks back before you page even loads. unliky - but possible

another possibility is your counters are wrong - i don't believe this, but it's possible

another possibility is that your lying about the numbers. I don't really believe that either, but it's possible.

another possibility is that your host is just stupid. i don't buy that either, but it's possible


any of those other posibilities work for you?
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i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

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look here dumbass. Joeblow can come in off the street and get a 10mbps server from phatservers that can handle 500k a day for only $450 a month. Do you think it is that much of a stretch for me to get a better deal if i BUY QUANTITY?
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:25 PM   #180
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look here dumbass. Joeblow can come in off the street and get a 10mbps server from phatservers that can handle 500k a day for only $450 a month. Do you think it is that much of a stretch for me to get a better deal if i BUY QUANTITY?
you said 5 servers though

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Old 02-08-2004, 04:28 PM   #181
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sorry choker - it was fun but i goto go for a few hours.. be backlater - this was fun.

go have sunday dinner with your daughters, i won't make any more fun of you till later this evening.

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sorry choker - it was fun but i goto go for a few hours.. be backlater - this was fun.

go have sunday dinner with your daughters, i won't make any more fun of you till later this evening.

Nah that's ok. They are busy looking for the hot dog maker and my sledgehammer.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:35 PM   #184
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you said 5 servers though


Of course he's talking about servers that do other things besides the TGPs in question. There is nothing wrong with that.

If you had a car dealership and you wanted to know how much is was costing you to leave the lights outside on all night, you would not be very happy if your accountant quoted the full amount of the electricity bill, now would you?

Likewise, Choker has broken down the costs for hosting the TGP galleries. Nothing at all wrong with that.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:54 PM   #185
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This was a great thread until Sleazy and Choker got into that cat fight... Donny, I miss called that pissing contest a 100 posts ago. Should of waited for Sleazy. Well at least it's high GFY drama.

Chokers traffic is real, next question.

I pay $240 for two servers and a couple hundred gig of transfer a month. To talk about server cost, ya have to start asking about bandwidth and all. Having been to the Choker sites, he must be using some. Everything is quick...

Think I may be paying to much for the servers?. That is for unmanged servers too.
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some of sleazys posts truly make me want to puke.. maybe its just the tuna i had for lunch though?
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Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!
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Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!
The "true" cost of the servers the TGP's are on is $60 each a month. They are very small boxes capped at 3mbps each. No support. Even if a server goes down it is not rebooted until I call in and request it. So there is practically ZERO support. And it could take days just to get a hardware issue resolved. Actually one of them has been down since friday. But when you have many of them, do your own DNS and expire domains in 15 minutes and have backup servers standing by with backed up databases, then if a server goes down you just change the zone file and boom you are back up. This is not a solution for the average webmaster. But for me it works fine. This is why i get such a good deal on certain servers.
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Old 02-08-2004, 05:58 PM   #189
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1000/day. wow.

now is this thread complete ...

I was expecting this reply on first page though ;)
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Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!
here's the thing though - if one part isn't quite right - what's to say the rest of it isn't exactly accurate as well. I'm not saying choker doesn't make money - he does well for himself, but he got WAY to emotional on this thread for me to believe that he was telling the WHOLE story...

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haha SleazyWhore stop crying man... Choker is making bank so what's it to ya?
Stop the drama and just try to do what he does punky ass bitch.

Choker> leave the pathetic crybaby to die and just laugh all the way to the bank
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haha SleazyWhore stop crying man... Choker is making bank so what's it to ya?
Stop the drama and just try to do what he does punky ass bitch.

Choker> leave the pathetic crybaby to die and just laugh all the way to the bank
i think choker still has some room on his left testicle.
is your tongue clean?
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i 'threw it in' cause that's one way to get 500,000 hits a day for a cost of $300.

and it is a possible reason. I never said that was the reason, but it is one possible reason.

it's also possible that noone loads any of your pages and always clicks back before you page even loads. unliky - but possible

another possibility is your counters are wrong - i don't believe this, but it's possible

another possibility is that your lying about the numbers. I don't really believe that either, but it's possible.

another possibility is that your host is just stupid. i don't buy that either, but it's possible


any of those other posibilities work for you?
well I believe the price for host isn't for number of hits but data transfered ..
look, I don't know but the average "choker style" TGP may have like 5kb (actually I made one page TGP 1.8Kb big) .. and do the math:
500.000 hits x 5kb = 2.500.000kb =2.5GB x 30 days = 75GB a month .. how much do you get charged for this ?
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Yeah but I learned a long time ago to not depend on any sponsors, nor depend on sponsor income when making a business plan. What signups I get I consider spending money
Will you give some hint about how large a percentage of your earnings are from signups?
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Why not. If some of them end up sending some traffic his way - in exchange for the free scripts.
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Very easy to get 5 servers for around $300. All he has to do is go to http://www.servermatrix.com/ and get the Super Celeron for $69/Month.

Don't tell me a Celeron is not good enough. I use to run movie gallerys of a freaking cobalt 3i 4 years ago. It only had a 300 Mhz amd with 512 ram on linux. It got about 150K page hits a day and even served 200k movie clips.

Don't call bullshit cause I was the one e-mailed http://trix.sexswap.com/ complaining that my cobalt box wasn't doing the 1 million hits a day that I expected Anyway, it did pretty damn good for the hardware specs. Plus there was a shitload of movie hotlinkers that added more server load. Took a while to find this link but it does bring back memories

"RAM CHOY TRIES TO TELL ME THE RAQ3i SUCKS!
After my article last week, Ram Choy wrote me to tell me his opinion on the Cobalt RAQ 3i. I think you will find this story and several emails as interesting as I did. In the first email,

Ram Choy: "I have a Raq 3i with 512MB of Ram. I think it sucks and is over priced. Not as good as you think. Its over rated. Just wanted to tell you"

Guru-Of-Gif: "hmm, that's too bad. Tell me why you think it sucks? What OS?"

Ram Choy: The OS is linux and it only uses a 300Mhz AMD cpu. I tryed to tweak the httpd.conf file but it made it worst so I made it back to its original. Call me crazy but I am using it to host my gallerys for TGP sites and all the servers resources are at 90% use (About 150,000 Hits a Day). I am not using any CGI scripts or JAVA. I am sure I can get a much more powerful server for the same price. I bet the the server management software is what cost so much but you can get the almost the same thing from
www.webmin.com/webmin/

I almost fell off my chair. First, sure I will agree with Ram on that you can build a better system on your own for cheaper...but to do that you have to value your labor at $0 an hour. Also, I think we are splitting hairs when you can save less than $1k. The RAQs are still thousands less than any of the big servers.

BUT, did you read what I read? 150 fucking thousand hits a day!!! I used to melt NT boxes at 40,000 front page uniques a day and you can give a UNIX box fits at 60,000-80,000. 150,000 fucking hits a day on s cheapo $2000 box...WOW! WOW! WOW! To me, this is an incredible selling point for these thin servers. Maybe I am way off base, but to me, that is a pile of traffic and I am shocked that the server was able to handle it. My hat's off to Cobalt. I would be interested on anyone else's idea of where you can melt a server in terms of hits and OS."

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