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Old 02-07-2004, 07:45 PM   #101
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I wasn't joking. I seriously thought choker made more $$ than I do. Unless he has other sources of income, I make more.

And I see him and Sleazy arguing all the time. This thread honestly just lets everyone know that Sleazy blows him away (at least from the numbers Sleazy's given).
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:50 PM   #102
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Oh, and since you're big balling, can you please look into finding some volume black traffic for me to buy? Thanks.
Amen... I would buy some as well. Nobody seems to have black traffic.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:54 PM   #103
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I wasn't joking. I seriously thought choker made more $$ than I do. Unless he has other sources of income, I make more.
Choker is the owner of Epic Cash, that is his main source of income.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:55 PM   #104
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That's why I like you Choker ;)
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:00 PM   #105
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alright that's nice and all but how do you manage the trades for all these TGPs? even if your goal is only 5k per TGP they would still require time to be spent working the trades.. clue me in on your secrect, maybe I could buy you lunch one day or something as I'm in central Fl aswell.

I'm on the same page as you with what you are talking about on doing it in bulk... but I just can't see how you could manage that many trades... unless of course you hire it out..
TTT trade script runs itself. Auto adds new trades and auto deletes dead trades. All new trades are run thru FT database so practically no cheaters.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:03 PM   #106
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I wasn't joking. I seriously thought choker made more $$ than I do. Unless he has other sources of income, I make more.

And I see him and Sleazy arguing all the time. This thread honestly just lets everyone know that Sleazy blows him away (at least from the numbers Sleazy's given).
LOL. You think all I do is TGP's?? I sell 200k clicked a day from my tgps, that is less than 1/10th of the total I sell a day. Do the math.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:07 PM   #107
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that is great, you shouldnt care what anyone thinks though just make money and laugh all the way to the bank
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:09 PM   #108
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:21 PM   #109
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Lots of those must be under 1k per day. Chokinchicken is a big chunk of that 500k I thought.

Still awesome as hell. Little work and big $$$ is the way to go.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:26 PM   #110
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:39 PM   #111
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I actually expected Sleazy to jump on this thread harder than he did... Oh well

You're one of the good guys in my book Choker
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:22 PM   #112
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LOL. You think all I do is TGP's?? I sell 200k clicked a day from my tgps, that is less than 1/10th of the total I sell a day. Do the math.
That is a relief. Seriously. For a second there I was disappointed. Thank you for clearing that up.
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:34 PM   #113
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:48 PM   #114
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:33 AM   #115
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:03 AM   #116
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LOL. You think all I do is TGP's?? I sell 200k clicked a day from my tgps, that is less than 1/10th of the total I sell a day. Do the math.
Did the Math a long time ago. Only guess work of course.

We don't need a pissing contest between Donny and Choker. Ya both make tons.

I?m in the trickle down part of all this. The traffic and as important the back links are appreciated. You can be a fuckin billionaire in no time and that would be great! There is no way you won?t be helping many of us along the way. Part of what makes it all work.

Never thought you were really in the gallery or TGP business as most think of it. My understanding from my start in this biz, is that you were all about traffic. My first experience with even remembering the name choker is when I realized ? I didn?t just download some shareware, I bought this script for 1% of my traffic.

Appreciate the stats on the income and other info.
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:05 AM   #117
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i think its easier since u can sell adspots. but thats about it.
Do you even know the concept of choker's TGPs? He sells ALL his gallery spots.
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Old 02-08-2004, 07:58 AM   #118
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too good for a newb like you.
no go build more gallery.
in order to exchange links to mtree dialer,vietnam webby?
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Old 02-08-2004, 08:53 AM   #119
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Anyone can do what I have done. I provide all the free scripts and galleries needed. It just takes time to understand the big picture. In fact I am beta testing a new system that will make it possible for anyone to have a daily auto updating TGP listing THEIR free sponsor hosted galleries. Complete with text descriptions etc.
That script will be great, when do you think it will be ready? Also if you don't mind me asking, who are your best converting sponsors and who were the worst? Just curious to see what sites do well with your traffic.
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Old 02-08-2004, 08:56 AM   #120
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:14 AM   #121
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That script will be great, when do you think it will be ready? Also if you don't mind me asking, who are your best converting sponsors and who were the worst? Just curious to see what sites do well with your traffic.
The script will be ready this week.
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:44 AM   #122
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Just curious, I don't care how much you make, but since you posted it(of your tgp's)

You said you sell to freesites, and you had income from that...But at expenses you did not list the money you pay other parties to send traffic TO YOUR sites.....

Just curious, this tgp's run alone, and you don't feed them?

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Old 02-08-2004, 09:51 AM   #123
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Man, you`re asking 1000+ clueless noobs to copy you, and I don`t think that will help you much.
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Man, you`re asking 1000+ clueless noobs to copy you, and I don`t think that will help you much.
and those clueless ones will be outta biz in a week, no need to fear that.
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Just curious, I don't care how much you make, but since you posted it(of your tgp's)

You said you sell to freesites, and you had income from that...But at expenses you did not list the money you pay other parties to send traffic TO YOUR sites.....

Just curious, this tgp's run alone, and you don't feed them?

Andre
I feed them but counted that against the total of 200k a day I sell from the TGP's. Actually I sell a lot more from the TGPs but 100k of that I buy myself. Follow me?

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The traffic I buy from others is used for other programs.
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:17 AM   #126
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Man, you`re asking 1000+ clueless noobs to copy you, and I don`t think that will help you much.
Ummm, yes it will help me my friend.
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:20 AM   #127
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:26 AM   #128
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We don't need a pissing contest between Donny and Choker. Ya both make tons.

That's the problem with text on a screen... you can't really see a person's emotions. I honestly wasn't trying to start a pissy match with Choker. I was seriously disappointed when I thought that was his only income. I had always though he made way more money than me.

No matter who you are, every person on earth looks up to someone. (Example: Brad Shaw looks up to Fantasy Man BIG TIME ). I personally look up to people that make more money than me (as long as they do it ethically).

Choker is one of those I look up to. I have picked his brain on ICQ on numerous occassions, because I look up to him. He's making honest money. Then all of a sudden I thought that his income was less than mine. That was a disappointment.

BUT Choker pointed out the mis-understanding. The income he posted to start this thread is not all of his income. So he probably makes more money than me. I can still learn from him. LOL

And I am still motivated to bend over backward to make galleries specifically for him.

See what I mean now?



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Ummm, yes it will help me my friend.
Choker, how is people competing with you - using YOUR plan - going to help you, bro? I'm missing something.
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That's the problem with text on a screen... you can't really see a person's emotions. I honestly wasn't trying to start a pissy match with Choker. I was seriously disappointed when I thought that was his only income. I had always though he made way more money than me.

No matter who you are, every person on earth looks up to someone. (Example: Brad Shaw looks up to Fantasy Man BIG TIME ). I personally look up to people that make more money than me (as long as they do it ethically).

Choker is one of those I look up to. I have picked his brain on ICQ on numerous occassions, because I look up to him. He's making honest money. Then all of a sudden I thought that his income was less than mine. That was a disappointment.

BUT Choker pointed out the mis-understanding. The income he posted to start this thread is not all of his income. So he probably makes more money than me. I can still learn from him. LOL

And I am still motivated to bend over backward to make galleries specifically for him.

See what I mean now?



No worries man.
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let us know when it is coz I'm very interested
Being beta tested now http://www.sexyroxannes.com
so far so good I am thinking around the end of next week it will be ready.
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Choker, how is people competing with you - using YOUR plan - going to help you, bro? I'm missing something.
Without even thinking about the more subtle ways, they are going to:
1)give him 1% of their traffic for all eternity
2)buy tons of feeder traffic from him
3)trade heavily with him

I'm sure the rabbit hole goes deeper.
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You know you coulda just whipped out your dick for ppl to measure and then do a regular spam on your traffic, this was the hard and subtle way to do it though and you deserve credit for that.
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Without even thinking about the more subtle ways, they are going to:
1)give him 1% of their traffic for all eternity
2)buy tons of feeder traffic from him
3)trade heavily with him

I'm sure the rabbit hole goes deeper.
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You know you coulda just whipped out your dick for ppl to measure and then do a regular spam on your traffic, this was the hard and subtle way to do it though and you deserve credit for that.
Don't need my dick measured. I really am tired of guys making fun of my TGP's. After awhile it gets on my nerves. My point of this thread is that ANYONE can build a TGP empire like I did. It just takes a lot of effort but not a lot of brains. And with my new free host it will be a lot easier for anyone to do what I have done.
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:42 PM   #139
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We use your scripts on www.elseygrammer.com - works great.

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Do you even know the concept of choker's TGPs? He sells ALL his gallery spots.
see who i quoted from.

i was talking about the difference between 1 500k tgp and 100 5k tgp.
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shows how little tgp traffic is worth and if Choker makes 1k a day
i wonder how much those other tgp webmasters are making..

must be on the edge of poverty.. ;)
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:11 PM   #142
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I dont know which i dislike more, 1000 Choker tgps or the possibility there could now be 1000 Choker Jrs each trying to make 1000 more tgps. The exponential growth of free porn is going to be ultimately bad for the industry imo.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:20 PM   #143
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As usual you talk about something you do not understand.
My total hosting bill is close to 7k a month, but the tgps are on servers I got on a special deal.
I have one of the best server admins around, he knows how to optimize the fuck out of the servers.
lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.

and no real host would consider a client that only pays them $7k a month a major client - more like an annoyance.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:32 PM   #144
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That's the problem with text on a screen... you can't really see a person's emotions. I honestly wasn't trying to start a pissy match with Choker. I was seriously disappointed when I thought that was his only income. I had always though he made way more money than me.

No matter who you are, every person on earth looks up to someone. (Example: Brad Shaw looks up to Fantasy Man BIG TIME ). I personally look up to people that make more money than me (as long as they do it ethically).

Choker is one of those I look up to. I have picked his brain on ICQ on numerous occassions, because I look up to him. He's making honest money. Then all of a sudden I thought that his income was less than mine. That was a disappointment.

BUT Choker pointed out the mis-understanding. The income he posted to start this thread is not all of his income. So he probably makes more money than me. I can still learn from him. LOL

And I am still motivated to bend over backward to make galleries specifically for him.

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Maybe it's an American thing, but I really don't understand why somebody needs to make more money than you do to look up to him or her!
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Maybe it's an American thing, but I really don't understand why somebody needs to make more money than you do to look up to him or her!
good point, i admire those who are turly happy
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and no real host would consider a client that only pays them $7k a month a major client - more like an annoyance.
I would've thought Choker had a HUGE bandwidth bill - you're right about that, 7k$ is peanuts but maybe they just gave him a very good deal. He probably brings them lots of clients cause he's working with a LOT of (new) webmasters each day.
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Cogent quality bandwidth might be in play here.
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Old 02-08-2004, 02:33 PM   #148
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Maybe it's an American thing, but I really don't understand why somebody needs to make more money than you do to look up to him or her!
excellent point! money doesn't earn respect, knowledge and character does.
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lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.

and no real host would consider a client that only pays them $7k a month a major client - more like an annoyance.

LOL, I bet you are still paying $2 bucks a gig for your bandwidth aren't you?

I will bet you $1000 right here right now that I run these TGP's on 5 servers for a hosting cost of $300 a month.

You start your shit again about the "real" traffic thing and all hell will break loose on your ass. You are the ONLY person throwing accusations about my traffic being not "real". You are still such a pathetic piece of shit with your big mouth. You care if your host considers you a major client or not? Dumbass. Here I will pay my host a extra 3 grand a month so he can think of me as major. dumbass
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I would've thought Choker had a HUGE bandwidth bill - you're right about that, 7k$ is peanuts but maybe they just gave him a very good deal. He probably brings them lots of clients cause he's working with a LOT of (new) webmasters each day.
Exactly
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