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Old 02-07-2004, 09:48 AM   #51
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:55 AM   #52
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lol, I've got an idea... let's give surfers FREE ACCESS for 30 days and let em rebill. I'm sure 28% will rebill
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:58 AM   #53
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lol, I've got an idea... let's give surfers FREE ACCESS for 30 days and let em rebill. I'm sure 28% will rebill
I'm afraid the downward spiral has started. $10 sites are already picking up steam and I'm sure the next run of cheaper is better sites will be popping up in the near future.
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:00 AM   #54
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lets give them 1 month 100% free access ! im sure they will rebill 100% !!!
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:52 AM   #55
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If you have not noticed, surfers join less and less
due to all the free stuff out there.

I can find more, better stuff for free then anyones
paysite..not to mention password sites who fuck us all!

I myself would pay 10.00 rather then dick around
with free sites etc.
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:06 AM   #56
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If you have not noticed, surfers join less and less
due to all the free stuff out there.

I can find more, better stuff for free then anyones
paysite..not to mention password sites who fuck us all!

I myself would pay 10.00 rather then dick around
with free sites etc.
Odd, my conversions are right where they've been for a long, long time. In fact, I tweaked a little a couple of months ago and got my conversions a little better than they had been all along.
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:09 AM   #57
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I think the rate of rebills is no greater if its the same old tired bought content and plugins. Also the $10 web site longterm will be the death of the affiliate. They will begin to realize you cant afford to pay a high commissions on a low number give out hosted galleries, produce content, throw whose got the biggest dick parties at the shows, give out prizes on a $10 dollar sign up. The money isnt there. In our niche we are on the expensive side and have rebill rate that hovers around 70% because we give them creative new very exclusive content . Also you cant compare the price to a porno mag , magazines make their money on advertising more than the $10 they get from you, thats why if you subscribe the price goes down to almost nothing.

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Old 02-07-2004, 11:35 AM   #58
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I was only converting at 1:1000 with my membership at $39.95 a month, so I dropped my price to $10 and now I am doing 1:300!!!! Joins jumped 300%! It's amazing!! $10 rules!
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If the retention is a lot higher you made a good deal otherwise it is not a big biz for you:
1:1000 $39,95
1:300 $10.00 it is 3,33:1000 so $33
the math says that you losed 6$ every 1000 surfers
6$ that you have to recover with recurring.
But I repeat if you have a lot higher retention it works.
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:40 AM   #59
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If the retention is a lot higher you made a good deal otherwise it is not a big biz for you:
1:1000 $39,95
1:300 $10.00 it is 3,33:1000 so $33
the math says that you losed 6$ every 1000 surfers
6$ that you have to recover with recurring.
But I repeat if you have a lot higher retention it works.

What you don't factor is that you'll have more members.

and more members mean you have more power to flow that traffic into mailers and other upsells
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:42 AM   #60
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:44 AM   #61
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I think someone who signs up for a website only because its $10 isnt going to buying a alot of upsells. lol
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Old 02-07-2004, 12:34 PM   #62
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I am not offering any upsells, we are offering
the same content we produce.

We have many doors into our sites, the 10$ one is
doing really well considering.

If you do the math, you will make more money over
the following months as the members base grows.


Would rather make 10 or make nothing off of the surfer ?
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Old 02-07-2004, 01:11 PM   #63
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Who would have figured that lowering a membership site
to $10.00 from $29.95 would actually raise the members
base and profits.

I tested this for the last month.

Sales doubled and tripled and... the members
base grew overnight.

Retention jumped to 65 to 75%!!!

Wow.. in a few months, we will be kicking ass
with this tour.

Oh well, back 2 work!
I have been trying to tell certain people this, but haven't been getting through. I'm happy to see that someone else has proved my theory. Cheers!
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Old 02-07-2004, 01:20 PM   #64
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In my opinion, this will end up being worse on the industry as a whole than TGP's have been. Once you charge $10, $5, or whatever for the same content you once charged $30 or $40 for you won't be able to charge that same surfer full price again.
I fully agree with that. There are always webmasters that don?t make any or much money and if they will see a chance they will lower prices and start making some money, even on $5 sites?

What we shouldn?t forget is that the big boys started $10 sites only to lower their chargeback ratios and to stay alive, not because they thought there is more money to be made from it.

Lowering the prices is extremely bad for this industry, if all programs would charge more per month it would be much better for everybody.

Less free porn, higher prices ? Amen!
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