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Juicy D. Links · 02-05-2004, 04:38 PM

Easy to pick it up or would it be difficult cause of being used to a pC for years? Any switchers here?

Kris · 02-05-2004, 04:39 PM

its easy. did it a little over a year ago.

Digipimp · 02-05-2004, 04:39 PM

It's really pretty easy for real. I started using a mac when they ran DOS, then I used a pc for a long time and finally when I bought my first computer when I was about 21 I bought a mac and haven't gone back since.

jimthefiend · 02-05-2004, 04:40 PM

macs are for faggots and other sorts of liberal hippy types

TaDoW · 02-05-2004, 04:40 PM

I'm so sorry.

wave goodbye to all cheap hardware, nearly all software, and your second (and third) mouse button, along with the scroll wheel.

Rorschach · 02-05-2004, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend
macs are for faggots and other sorts of liberal hippy types

How anyone can be proud to be a windows l-user is beyond me.

Digipimp · 02-05-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW
I'm so sorry.

wave goodbye to all cheap hardware, nearly all software, and your second (and third) mouse button, along with the scroll wheel.

Hey at least you're up to date on reality if it were still 1995

angeleyes · 02-05-2004, 04:49 PM

Very easy transition. I had never seen one or worked on one and I was hired at a company that MAC was required.... I fibbed and said I was proficient with that as well as a few programs I didn't know and by the end of the week I was using the new programs on the mac like a champ, nobody was the wiser.

Juicy D. Links · 02-05-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes
Very easy transition. I had never seen one or worked on one and I was hired at a company that MAC was required.... I fibbed and said I was proficient with that as well as a few programs I didn't know and by the end of the week I was using the new programs on the mac like a champ, nobody was the wiser.

i left my underwear in your hotel room at Vegas , please ship em back to me they are my favorite ones

MetaMan · 02-05-2004, 04:52 PM

macs are for idiots who cant keep a PC clean, stop downloading so much beasty porn and PC will give u no probs.

stevecore · 02-05-2004, 04:53 PM

convinced my friend that his mac was a P.O.S (basically since i had the same one and hated it). for years he used & loved his mac then moved to a PC & has been using it for about a year.

his latest job has got him back on a powerbook and he fucking hates it now more than ever.

Cory W · 02-05-2004, 04:53 PM

Juicylinks,

after 1 hour of using a Mac, you will wonder why in the hell you let a PC be so difficult.

Seriously, they are super easy to use. Do yourself a favor and get some video and play with the editing in IMovie or Final Cut Pro, they just integrate so smoothly.

Only thing, once you use one, that Apple store is a scarey place to be. You can buy a car for what it cost to fill up that new box they have with Memory

I have the Powerbook. I run everything from it. Never had an issue.

MrIzzz · 02-05-2004, 04:54 PM

its like switching colognes. you left drakkar to go to coolwater. it wasn't that hard was it?

jimthefiend · 02-05-2004, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

How anyone can be proud to be a windows l-user is beyond me.

oh get a fucking clue dude i mean fuck

Rorschach · 02-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend

oh get a fucking clue dude i mean fuck

In what way? You really think that Windows is a good OS?

Rich · 02-05-2004, 04:56 PM

It takes a while to get used to the key commands, not hitting control V, etc. Besides that it couldn't be easier, macs are easy to use and I've never seen performance on a pc like I get from my powermac.

directfiesta · 02-05-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks

i left my underwear in your hotel room at Vegas , please ship em back to me they are my favorite ones

That sounds like the real Juicylinks....

Rich · 02-05-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend
macs are for faggots and other sorts of liberal hippy types

fullphat · 02-05-2004, 05:03 PM

its not too bad at all, I found t easy enough, now Im moving back to pc for the same reason someone said before, the software is much easier to find and theres lots more of it + my clients mostly use pc

MrIzzz · 02-05-2004, 05:05 PM

what about laptops. what would youzzzzz reccomend

Juicy D. Links · 02-05-2004, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
what about laptops. what would youzzzzz reccomend

Jizzzzy you want to buy my laptop the Dell One i had in Vegas

TweetyBird · 02-05-2004, 05:08 PM

I use both apple and pc, so what the heck

JohnW · 02-05-2004, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW
I'm so sorry.

wave goodbye to all cheap hardware, nearly all software, and your second (and third) mouse button, along with the scroll wheel.

Not true...any "everyday software" you use for a PC you can get for Mac these days.
And, I use a USB Wacom tablet with wireless mouse (which has a scroll wheel, and a right button, both useable) with my iBook.

NEXT!

deniska · 02-05-2004, 05:39 PM

I just got a Mac a month ago.. Very easy to learn love the new system.. I still run windows XP on my lappy.. OSX is pimp the haters are just hating..

tyler86ed · 02-05-2004, 05:41 PM

I use both.. I have a g4, and an iBook. My problem with the mac is sometimes it was to simple. Sometimes I would over think what i was trying to do.

digifan · 02-05-2004, 05:54 PM

Go, Macs, go

MichaelP · 02-05-2004, 05:59 PM

Once you go Mac you'll never go back

very easy transition, you'll LOVE it !

I use Macs since my first IIsi in 93 (9 Mb Ram and 105Mb HD.. WOW).

You'll also love the speed, actually my "old" G4 500 Mhz is still faster than my Athlon 1.6. Way more stable, no freezes or crashes. And you are almost out of reach of virusses too

Give yourself the time to learn how a Mac works and you'll love it (it won,t take long anyway) WinDoZe 95 was a copy of our system 7 but with way more bugs....

Changing the world, one person at the time ---
-- Steve Jobs

bigdog · 02-05-2004, 06:50 PM

l like the mac also, but for video galleries i have not come across any mac software to cut video files like http://www.brizsoft.com/avisplit/ that is for the pc.
What do mac guys use to cut their vidoes easily for mgp galleries?

JDog · 02-05-2004, 07:14 PM

I think it would be easy, but that's just me!

jDoG

masta flash · 02-05-2004, 07:19 PM

Macs are for noobs.
See above for more dumbass adult webmasters

Cory W · 02-05-2004, 07:27 PM

Quote:

l like the mac also, but for video galleries i have not come across any mac software to cut video files likehttp://www.brizsoft.com/avisplit/ that is for the pc.
What do mac guys use to cut their vidoes easily for mgp galleries?

Final Cut Pro is what I use. But, you can use IMovie which is innate to the Mac and it works damn good.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-05-2004, 07:29 PM

The title of this thread should be.

"Turning Retarded"

jimthefiend · 02-05-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

In what way? You really think that Windows is a good OS?

yes i do actually

Rorschach · 02-05-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
The title of this thread should be.

"Turning Retarded"

Turning retarded is basing your business on garbage software that's full of bugs, security flaws and spyware.

Lord_Austin · 02-05-2004, 07:31 PM

I still got my Atari, almost as good as a Mac.

masta flash · 02-05-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

Turning retarded is basing your business on garbage software that's full of bugs, security flaws and spyware.

Again.. Stupid webmasters.. I bet a million bucks macs have more flaws than any other OS. Its just that no body fucking knows about them because everyone knows macs suck and it isn't worth trying to exploit the 5 mac users on this planet.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-05-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

Turning retarded is basing your business on garbage software that's full of bugs, security flaws and spyware.

I run gentoo a box and a win XP box.

If you can't secure a windowze or *nix box. You should not be a webmaster.

And people who defend macs are either old or stupid. For both of those groups macs are great.

Rorschach · 02-05-2004, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I run gentoo a box and a win XP box.

If you can't secure a windowze or *nix box. You should not be a webmaster.

And people who defend macs are either old or stupid. For both of those groups macs are great.

I use Slack on my workhorse and I would agree with the first bit. I occasionally run XP is to test pages and consoles, for just about everything else it's crap.

If I was a non-technically inclined webmaster looking for a stable and low maintenance box I would go Mac without a doubt. It's not *nix but it's a damn site closer than Windows will ever be (despite pillaging BSD code).

Lonny · 02-05-2004, 07:40 PM

Now I think about it. If I was to switch to a MAC I might as well buy some IKEA furnishings.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-05-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

I use Slack on my workhorse and I would agree with the first bit. I occasionally run XP is to test pages and consoles, for just about everything else it's crap.

If I was a non-technically inclined webmaster looking for a stable and low maintenance box I would go Mac without a doubt. It's not *nix but it's a damn site closer than Windows will ever be (despite pillaging BSD code).

I have somthing agasint poeple using macs.... becasue In my opinion its detramental to the overal learning experience. I honslty don't think theres much room to grow if your only using macs. They get the job done.... but whens the last time you had to tweak your front side bus or change your memory timeings on a mac?

AND if your mac hard disk gets corrupt.... your ocmputer can get majorly fucked because of the way the file system works. ITs alo impossible to do file recovery your self on a mac (as far as I know)

90% of My traffic uses windows and IE..... so thats what I'm gonna use for everything related to site development. I want to see what the mjority of my surfers see.

RK · 02-05-2004, 08:43 PM

A mac is more expensive and you can do fewer things on it.

Switch to Linux instead; bigger market share and more software.

Probono · 02-05-2004, 09:49 PM

The wise people who have bad things to say about a MAC have never used OSX. OSX is built on BSD, it is Unix. Unix is far more mature, stable and secure than anything designed in Redmond.

The key is sofware. I switched about six months ago, it took about an hour to become comfortable with the MAC but some of the applications I use are only available for Windows. I run Virtual PC on my Powerbook for those few applications.

Most video software is available and superior on a MAC, not so with accounting and other business products.

I would NOT go back to Windows, I would consider Linux as it matures but for know the Mac with OSX is the best money can buy.

bhutocracy · 02-05-2004, 10:01 PM

macs were utter shite until osx.. now it's virtually more about what you prefer or are used to or whether you want to fork out the extra $ just to have a mac... or whether you can get the same software and games... or the fact that their keyboard shortcuts are crap... no more uber fast work doing logical moves through nav bars like alt-l-t-r.. you've got to map everything.
the other reason not to use a mac is probably being lumped in with noobie mac users and retarded hardcore macolytes

but besides that.. they're fine. And I wouldn't throw away a g5 laptop with finalcutpro.

AlxCds · 02-05-2004, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RK
A mac is more expensive and you can do fewer things on it.

Switch to Linux instead; bigger market share and more software.

do you actually believe what you are saying here?

toddler · 02-05-2004, 10:13 PM

hmm... just got my 2nd powerbook this week. windows has its place,(not on the server imho), so does macos. and linux
and solaris and *bsd. I use them all. I like
my pb because I have the tools I use everyday, builtin (unix shell tools vi, perl, php, apache, sed, awk, etc ) and photoshop, painter, illustrator, quark, lightwave. A ddecent browser with safari, a decent mail app. out of the box. You can do ms office, or star or open.

then there is itunes, imovie, idvd. final cut pro, etc. Sure you can get the same types of apps on a pc, but you get a lot of extra baggage there as well. The constant barrage of security holes are a prime example why. add things like ie holes(many still unpatched), and things look even better on the mac side.

of course, you also go linux on a laptop as well. or desktop, doesn't matter. however if you are complete newbie to unix, thats probably not the best idea. Can try if you like.

I've talked, at last count, 14 people into converting from a pc to mac (powerbooks in most cases) in the last year. Every one has been VERY happy with OSX.

digifan · 02-05-2004, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash
Macs are for noobs.
See above for more dumbass adult webmasters

For noobs like Quiet.. oh yes. Or Sleazydream.

lock · 02-05-2004, 10:16 PM

didnt know you liked to spend 3x on software/

toddler · 02-05-2004, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I have somthing agasint poeple using macs.... becasue In my opinion its detramental to the overal learning experience. I honslty don't think theres much room to grow if your only using macs. They get the job done.... but whens the last time you had to tweak your front side bus or change your memory timeings on a mac?

AND if your mac hard disk gets corrupt.... your ocmputer can get majorly fucked because of the way the file system works. ITs alo impossible to do file recovery your self on a mac (as far as I know)

90% of My traffic uses windows and IE..... so thats what I'm gonna use for everything related to site development. I want to see what the mjority of my surfers see.

you can indeed recover data from a mac formatted(HFS+) drive.

your other statement? You need some education on what html is, what jpg (gif,etc) files are, what standards are. And the knowledge that IE works just fine on a mac. Its EOL'd, but it works. Several other browsers(opera, moz) give you the option of sending 'msie' as the user_agent string, you may not have as many IE users as you think.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-05-2004, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler

you can indeed recover data from a mac formatted(HFS+) drive.

your other statement? You need some education on what html is, what jpg (gif,etc) files are, what standards are. And the knowledge that IE works just fine on a mac. Its EOL'd, but it works. Several other browsers(opera, moz) give you the option of sending 'msie' as the user_agent string, you may not have as many IE users as you think.

You live in a fantasy world if you think a siginificant number of porn sufers are spoofing thier user_agent string As for things looking the same in all the browsers... thats another little fantasy.

Edit: Also do you have any links to info on recovering files from a mac drive. I seriously need some good software for that.

pushpills · 02-05-2004, 10:32 PM

why learn how to use a mac?

you obviously haven't correctly learned how to use a pc

02-05-2004, 04:38 PM	#1
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	PC user switching to a MAC.... Easy to pick it up or would it be difficult cause of being used to a pC for years? Any switchers here?

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Kris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 940	its easy. did it a little over a year ago. __________________ I am the walrus.

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Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	It's really pretty easy for real. I started using a mac when they ran DOS, then I used a pc for a long time and finally when I bought my first computer when I was about 21 I bought a mac and haven't gone back since. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

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angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	Very easy transition. I had never seen one or worked on one and I was hired at a company that MAC was required.... I fibbed and said I was proficient with that as well as a few programs I didn't know and by the end of the week I was using the new programs on the mac like a champ, nobody was the wiser. __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.

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jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	macs are for faggots and other sorts of liberal hippy types

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	macs are for idiots who cant keep a PC clean, stop downloading so much beasty porn and PC will give u no probs.

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stevecore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,130	convinced my friend that his mac was a P.O.S (basically since i had the same one and hated it). for years he used & loved his mac then moved to a PC & has been using it for about a year. his latest job has got him back on a powerbook and he fucking hates it now more than ever.

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Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Juicylinks, after 1 hour of using a Mac, you will wonder why in the hell you let a PC be so difficult. Seriously, they are super easy to use. Do yourself a favor and get some video and play with the editing in IMovie or Final Cut Pro, they just integrate so smoothly. Only thing, once you use one, that Apple store is a scarey place to be. You can buy a car for what it cost to fill up that new box they have with Memory I have the Powerbook. I run everything from it. Never had an issue. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	It takes a while to get used to the key commands, not hitting control V, etc. Besides that it couldn't be easier, macs are easy to use and I've never seen performance on a pc like I get from my powermac.

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fullphat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4	its not too bad at all, I found t easy enough, now Im moving back to pc for the same reason someone said before, the software is much easier to find and theres lots more of it + my clients mostly use pc __________________ full phat design UK

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deniska Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,053	I just got a Mac a month ago.. Very easy to learn love the new system.. I still run windows XP on my lappy.. OSX is pimp the haters are just hating..

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MichaelP Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: QWEBEC Corporate Office Posts: 7,124	Once you go Mac you'll never go back very easy transition, you'll LOVE it ! I use Macs since my first IIsi in 93 (9 Mb Ram and 105Mb HD.. WOW). You'll also love the speed, actually my "old" G4 500 Mhz is still faster than my Athlon 1.6. Way more stable, no freezes or crashes. And you are almost out of reach of virusses too Give yourself the time to learn how a Mac works and you'll love it (it won,t take long anyway) WinDoZe 95 was a copy of our system 7 but with way more bugs.... Changing the world, one person at the time --- -- Steve Jobs

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	l like the mac also, but for video galleries i have not come across any mac software to cut video files like http://www.brizsoft.com/avisplit/ that is for the pc. What do mac guys use to cut their vidoes easily for mgp galleries?

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Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	The wise people who have bad things to say about a MAC have never used OSX. OSX is built on BSD, it is Unix. Unix is far more mature, stable and secure than anything designed in Redmond. The key is sofware. I switched about six months ago, it took about an hour to become comfortable with the MAC but some of the applications I use are only available for Windows. I run Virtual PC on my Powerbook for those few applications. Most video software is available and superior on a MAC, not so with accounting and other business products. I would NOT go back to Windows, I would consider Linux as it matures but for know the Mac with OSX is the best money can buy.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	macs were utter shite until osx.. now it's virtually more about what you prefer or are used to or whether you want to fork out the extra $ just to have a mac... or whether you can get the same software and games... or the fact that their keyboard shortcuts are crap... no more uber fast work doing logical moves through nav bars like alt-l-t-r.. you've got to map everything. the other reason not to use a mac is probably being lumped in with noobie mac users and retarded hardcore macolytes but besides that.. they're fine. And I wouldn't throw away a g5 laptop with finalcutpro.

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toddler Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,911	hmm... just got my 2nd powerbook this week. windows has its place,(not on the server imho), so does macos. and linux and solaris and *bsd. I use them all. I like my pb because I have the tools I use everyday, builtin (unix shell tools vi, perl, php, apache, sed, awk, etc ) and photoshop, painter, illustrator, quark, lightwave. A ddecent browser with safari, a decent mail app. out of the box. You can do ms office, or star or open. then there is itunes, imovie, idvd. final cut pro, etc. Sure you can get the same types of apps on a pc, but you get a lot of extra baggage there as well. The constant barrage of security holes are a prime example why. add things like ie holes(many still unpatched), and things look even better on the mac side. of course, you also go linux on a laptop as well. or desktop, doesn't matter. however if you are complete newbie to unix, thats probably not the best idea. Can try if you like. I've talked, at last count, 14 people into converting from a pc to mac (powerbooks in most cases) in the last year. Every one has been VERY happy with OSX. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoddler/

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