Who actually gives a FUCK??? - GoFuckYourself.com

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 04:01 PM

How many of you paysite owners actually give a fuck about the quality of your websites content? The quality of your members experience while navigating thru your site? The quality of your customer service/support? Retention???

Is it more lucrative to have a couple of websites that are high quality "top-notch" sites or 50 sites that are just "so-so"?

d*

beemk · 02-01-2004, 04:02 PM

everyone has their own idea of top notch

Carlito · 02-01-2004, 04:03 PM

Lately we`ve put more into the paysite members area experience, than the content for webmasters. But starting soon we`ll be giving webmasters more promo content than ever, while maintaing the paysite experience only as much as necessary to maintain the 60% retention.

Rorschach · 02-01-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Dunno about the rest of it but she's top notch.

acctman · 02-01-2004, 04:05 PM

just a couple websites, easier to manage and direct traffic too. focus on one task, spreading your resources thin is not a good game plan.

PersianKitty · 02-01-2004, 04:05 PM

Rentention is key! Keeping a customer rather than having to hunt for another one to take their place should be more important than bulking up an affiliate program.

Mutt · 02-01-2004, 04:05 PM

definitely the best way to go long term is a small number of high quality paysites that will remain popular for years, like any brand name product. they take alot of investment and work and talent, just because content is exclusive doesn't mean it's going to be good and make loyal customers.

but the quick big money doesn't fit that plan.

imageman · 02-01-2004, 04:07 PM

Its better to have 50 top notch websites with exclusive content and fresh ideas

But it takes one hell of a lot of work, without quality traffic the best website in the world is useless.

LadyMischief · 02-01-2004, 04:07 PM

I would prefer to give quality... I can't imagine putting my time, work, and effort into something that wasn't everything I myself would want from any product, and I have very high standards.. Nice work, Dean! ;)

jact · 02-01-2004, 04:08 PM

I've been looking at a lot of paysite backends lately and I have to say, 90% of them are worse then freesites listed on PK! (Not saying the freesites PK lists are bad, saying the pasites are HORRID). I wish there were more paysite owners that took the time and effort and expense to give a shit how they present their final product. It'd make the industry a whole lot better as a whole.

imageman · 02-01-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Rentention is key! Keeping a customer rather than having to hunt for another one to take their place should be more important than bulking up an affiliate program.

Well said

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by beemk
everyone has their own idea of top notch

True - True*

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I would prefer to give quality... I can't imagine putting my time, work, and effort into something that wasn't everything I myself would want from any product, and I have very high standards.. Nice work, Dean! ;)

My feelings exactly!

Thanks my dear....

budz · 02-01-2004, 04:30 PM

I'd hit it

dont say tranny

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by budz
I'd hit it

dont say tranny

Hahahahah - definently not a tranny!

Vitasoy · 02-01-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Hahahahah - definently not a tranny!

she has a great ass

Paul Markham · 02-01-2004, 04:41 PM

Unfortunately there are too many people putting up sites who understand, programming, design, traffic and don't have a clue about porn. So they are left to throw up as many sites as possible, throw as much traffic at it as possible and hope for the best.

But some of the richest guys I know have one or two great sites that retain members and a few feeder sites.

And with the 1% kicking in customer satisfaction is a must.

Fluid of Fuck Me · 02-01-2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Rentention is key! Keeping a customer rather than having to hunt for another one to take their place should be more important than bulking up an affiliate program.

they used to teach us this in business school. It likely costs a third as much to keep an existing customer as to go out and find new prospects. I wonder what the cost difference would be for adult?
I have no idea, since I've seen so few programs that actually put as much emphasis on keeping members as they do on talking about keeping members.

Spunky · 02-01-2004, 04:47 PM

More pics..I'm aroused and want to rub one out

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Unfortunately there are too many people putting up sites who understand, programming, design, traffic and don't have a clue about porn. So they are left to throw up as many sites as possible, throw as much traffic at it as possible and hope for the best.

Dawgy · 02-01-2004, 04:47 PM

this will be the year of content.

the days of having 100 front ends with
the same shitty backend are over.

PrivateIvy · 02-01-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
How many of you paysite owners actually give a fuck about the quality of your websites content? The quality of your members experience while navigating thru your site? The quality of your customer service/support? Retention???

Is it more lucrative to have a couple of websites that are high quality "top-notch" sites or 50 sites that are just "so-so"?

d*

I'm obsessed about that.....and that would be why Official Single model sites, esp run by the model herself, rebill longer

a Few high quality sites with tons of high quality content and updated often is better than a ton of sites with signups that quickly cancel. IMHO

Ivy

Paul Markham · 02-01-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
this will be the year of content.

the days of having 100 front ends with
the same shitty backend are over.

Visa forced it on us and we will be happy they did.

Mike-BP · 02-01-2004, 05:03 PM

It all depends on your business model

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
this will be the year of content.

Maybe I got out of the content business too soon

stocktrader23 · 02-01-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
this will be the year of content.

the days of having 100 front ends with
the same shitty backend are over.

It will never be over.

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Rentention is key! Keeping a customer rather than having to hunt for another one to take their place should be more important than bulking up an affiliate program.

Yea - you'd think this was true. With all the affiliate programs out there though - it's clearly not the norm.

Peter Romero · 02-01-2004, 06:24 PM

Luckilly for me, I only shoot girls that give me a raging hard-on.

I believe in that cuz I'm a jaded big ol SLUT!!!

Vick · 02-01-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Maybe I got out of the content business too soon

Dean - yes you did!!!

Was going to ask if you're going to get back in the selling content business

PlayGirl · 02-01-2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

i'd hit it

DeanCapture · 02-01-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Vick

Dean - yes you did!!!

Was going to ask if you're going to get back in the selling content business

Haven't really thought to much about it. I wouldn't mind doing some exclusive work for a couple of guys but I'm not sure if I want to get back into the content game just yet -

Howz it going Vick - long time no see!

SykkBoy · 02-01-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I've been looking at a lot of paysite backends lately and I have to say, 90% of them are worse then freesites listed on PK! (Not saying the freesites PK lists are bad, saying the pasites are HORRID). I wish there were more paysite owners that took the time and effort and expense to give a shit how they present their final product. It'd make the industry a whole lot better as a whole.

I think a lot of it is because affiliates only care about how much they are being paid...they don't give a shit where they send their traffic as long as they're getting paid....so program owners cater to what affiliates want (higher payouts, more bells and whistles and everything given to them for free) rather than what customers want since no affiliates = no customers....except those of us who have our own inhouse traffic generation....

cronos · 02-01-2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Haven't really thought to much about it. I wouldn't mind doing some exclusive work for a couple of guys but I'm not sure if I want to get back into the content game just yet -

Howz it going Vick - long time no see!

That photo tells more than 1000 messy cumshots on gorgeous faces. Less is more. Great pic. And yes you should do more content work.

Paul Markham · 02-01-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Maybe I got out of the content business too soon

I think it's a good time to get back in.

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DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Who actually gives a FUCK??? How many of you paysite owners actually give a fuck about the quality of your websites content? The quality of your members experience while navigating thru your site? The quality of your customer service/support? Retention??? Is it more lucrative to have a couple of websites that are high quality "top-notch" sites or 50 sites that are just "so-so"? d* __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	definitely the best way to go long term is a small number of high quality paysites that will remain popular for years, like any brand name product. they take alot of investment and work and talent, just because content is exclusive doesn't mean it's going to be good and make loyal customers. but the quick big money doesn't fit that plan. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	I would prefer to give quality... I can't imagine putting my time, work, and effort into something that wasn't everything I myself would want from any product, and I have very high standards.. Nice work, Dean! ;) __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

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Carlito Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 856	Lately we`ve put more into the paysite members area experience, than the content for webmasters. But starting soon we`ll be giving webmasters more promo content than ever, while maintaing the paysite experience only as much as necessary to maintain the 60% retention.

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acctman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,840	just a couple websites, easier to manage and direct traffic too. focus on one task, spreading your resources thin is not a good game plan.

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imageman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	Its better to have 50 top notch websites with exclusive content and fresh ideas But it takes one hell of a lot of work, without quality traffic the best website in the world is useless.

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I've been looking at a lot of paysite backends lately and I have to say, 90% of them are worse then freesites listed on PK! (Not saying the freesites PK lists are bad, saying the pasites are HORRID). I wish there were more paysite owners that took the time and effort and expense to give a shit how they present their final product. It'd make the industry a whole lot better as a whole. __________________ Free agent

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