FUCK CBS and the Super Bowl.

[NBDesign]

With all the censorship that CBS is doing these days... No one should support this type of bullshit and not watch the super bowl today and stop watching CBS altogether until they change their policy.



During this year's Super Bowl, you'll see ads sponsored by beer companies, tobacco companies, and the Bush White House. But you won't see the winning ad in MoveOn.org Voter Fund's Bush in 30 Seconds ad contest. CBS refuses to air it.

Meanwhile, the White House and Congressional Republicans are on the verge of signing into law a deal which Senator John McCain (R-AZ) says is custom-tailored for CBS and Fox, allowing the two networks to grow much bigger. CBS lobbied hard for this rule change; MoveOn.org members across the country lobbied against it; and now the MoveOn.org ad has been rejected while the White House ad will be played. It looks an awful lot like CBS is playing politics with the right to free speech.

Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" ? especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President ? just isn't right.

[KRL]

I was just at Publix supermarket and I can't believe they now have white plastic sheets to cover the front of Cosmopolitan and Glamour Magazines in the checkout lanes.

[Sly_RJ]

CBS is a company. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They don't want to air a given commercial, it's their right. Start your own company and you can do the same.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by KRL
I was just at Publix supermarket and I can't believe they now have white plastic sheets to cover the front of Cosmopolitan and Glamour Magazines in the checkout lanes.

Are you serious? Have not seen that here yet.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
CBS is a company. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They don't want to air a given commercial, it's their right. Start your own company and you can do the same.

No, you cannot break the law.... you cannot discriminate when hiring for example, there are somethings that you just cannot do no matter what your position is... company owner or not.

[Sly_RJ]

What law is being broken?

[valley hina]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
What law is being broken?

i know which of the laws are being broken

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
What law is being broken?

1st amendment and free speech. Censorship is wrong... ok, maybe not breaking laws... but wrong.

[RedShoe]

Originally posted by NBDesign
No, you cannot break the law.... you cannot discriminate when hiring for example, there are somethings that you just cannot do no matter what your position is... company owner or not.

Really? So how come I never see fat strippers at "Bob's classy lady?"

Do they not apply? Of course they do, I've seen them walk in, but I never see them serve drinks or dance.

At my old job, how come MEN never were hired to be a "figure finisher" NEVER. Not once in 10 years have I ever seen a guy "figure finisher"

It's because guys have no patience for that shit. Girls can sit there all day and dress up a puppet, and add little shit like accessories to it. But not a guy, and therefore guys never got that job, even though several of my friends asked for the position.

Take your naive view on the business world and go home.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by NBDesign
1st amendment and free speech. Censorship is wrong... ok, maybe not breaking laws... but wrong.

And you're trying to tell me that Company B has the right to force Company A to air their commercials? You don't think that's going against Free Speech?

I'm going to go run an ad on Nickelodeon for Coors. Let's see how well that goes over.

[Brad Xtremepay]

Redshoe++;

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by RedShoe


Really? So how come I never see fat strippers at "Bob's classy lady?"

Do they not apply? Of course they do, I've seen them walk in, but I never see them serve drinks or dance.

At my old job, how come MEN never were hired to be a "figure finisher" NEVER. Not once in 10 years have I ever seen a guy "figure finisher"

It's because guys have no patience for that shit. Girls can sit there all day and dress up a puppet, and add little shit like accessories to it. But not a guy, and therefore guys never got that job, even though several of my friends asked for the position.

Take your naive view on the business world and go home.

Of course it happens... but does that make it right? Companies always find an excuse for not hiring someone that they do not want tot hire... Still does not make it right.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
CBS is a company. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They don't want to air a given commercial, it's their right. Start your own company and you can do the same.

When the media starts deciding what commercials to air and what not to air it becomes censorship (as long as its not offensive). There is no reason for them not to air that commercial other than political pressure from the right wing.

[Strife]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ



And you're trying to tell me that Company B has the right to force Company A to air their commercials? You don't think that's going against Free Speech?

I'm going to go run an ad on Nickelodeon for Coors. Let's see how well that goes over.

AMEN

[Rich]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ



And you're trying to tell me that Company B has the right to force Company A to air their commercials? You don't think that's going against Free Speech?

I'm going to go run an ad on Nickelodeon for Coors. Let's see how well that goes over.

Wow if you can't tell the difference between your example and political censorship like this, you're an idiot.

[Rutopls]

Last time I checked the Superbowl is a entertainment event not a politcal or news commentary, they can do whatever they want.

How come whenever some fringe group doesnt get its way they are always the down trodden?

[crockett]

Originally posted by ThunderBalls



When the media starts deciding what commercials to air and what not to air it becomes censorship (as long as its not offensive). There is no reason for them not to air that commercial other than political pressure from the right wing.

agreed there is really no laws being broken... unless is was a public access or govt funded station... but it's basically wrong, and it shows who CBS is in bed with.... I don't think media giants that can control what we see on TV should have this power. It would be one thing if the add was obscene or offensive but it's not it's just a different view of Bush than what CBS wants to air and that is wrong..

[pussyluver]

Can't wait to see the ads that did make it. Don't care about the game. Already saw the Moveon.org ad.

CBS gets to decide what they show. To make them show the moveon.org ad would be like me being forced to display a particular banner on my site. I decide those things.

[NBDesign]

As a company, they are in business to make money by selling ads... why censor an ad that will pay? Sorry, should be first come first served.... The ads were NOT in poor taste, not illegal, not offensive...

So, why should a company not take someone's money?

Someone posted that the super bowl is entertainment,not political...... everything is political these days...

[Rutopls]

Originally posted by pussyluver
Can't wait to see the ads that did make it. Don't care about the game. Already saw the Moveon.org ad.

CBS gets to decide what they show. To make them show the moveon.org ad would be like me being forced to display a particular banner on my site. I decide those things.

Good point so when Catholic groups want to put a antiporn banner on your sites and are willing to pay the same amount the sponsors are you guys are going to all allow them to advertise right?

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Rutopls


Good point so when Catholic groups want to put a antiporn banner on your sites and are willing to pay the same amount the sponsors are you guys are going to all allow them to advertise right?

If I have an open spot.. sure why not... All money is green.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Rich


Wow if you can't tell the difference between your example and political censorship like this, you're an idiot.

So since it's political a company no longer has the right to approve or decline commercials? Is that what you're saying? I could think of many, many commercials that would shed a different light on certain situations, all political, and they would all get denied.

I'll go run a huge anti-abortion campaign on Lifetime, Oxygen, and MTV. When all 3 of those companies decline my campaign, will you be crying for me too? After all, it IS political.

[jennym]

Originally posted by NBDesign
With all the censorship that CBS is doing these days... No one should support this type of bullshit and not watch the super bowl today and stop watching CBS altogether until they change their policy.



During this year's Super Bowl, you'll see ads sponsored by beer companies, tobacco companies, and the Bush White House. But you won't see the winning ad in MoveOn.org Voter Fund's Bush in 30 Seconds ad contest. CBS refuses to air it.

Meanwhile, the White House and Congressional Republicans are on the verge of signing into law a deal which Senator John McCain (R-AZ) says is custom-tailored for CBS and Fox, allowing the two networks to grow much bigger. CBS lobbied hard for this rule change; MoveOn.org members across the country lobbied against it; and now the MoveOn.org ad has been rejected while the White House ad will be played. It looks an awful lot like CBS is playing politics with the right to free speech.

Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" ? especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President ? just isn't right.

Holy Shit! Stay right there, and I'll call the
WAAAHHHH-mbulance.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

So since it's political a company no longer has the right to approve or decline commercials? Is that what you're saying? I could think of many, many commercials that would shed a different light on certain situations, all political, and they would all get denied.

I'll go run a huge anti-abortion campaign on Lifetime, Oxygen, and MTV. When all 3 of those companies decline my campaign, will you be crying for me too? After all, it IS political.

Cry... no... help fight the censorship.... yes

I may not agree with what you are saying... but I agree you have the right to say it and be heard.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by NBDesign
Cry... no... help fight the censorship.... yes

[Rutopls]

Originally posted by NBDesign
Someone posted that the super bowl is entertainment, everything is political these days...

That is a big problem lately, you cant sit down and enjoy yourself without some twits pushing thier politcal agenda on you.

I have watched the ad and personally I think it is no big deal at all, but forcing companies to the whims of any fringe group is absurd.

So the KKK should be able to run a burning cross also if they can afford it since it is thier politcal stance right?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Rutopls

So the KKK should be able to run a burning cross also if they can afford it since it is thier politcal stance right?

Fuck that. I'm running a KKK recruitment campaign on BET.

I'm also going to help Bill O'Reilly with his campaign against Jay-Z. We will be airing these commercials on BET and full page ads in all of the highly "black" magazines.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Fuck that. I'm running a KKK recruitment campaign on BET.

[Bansheelinks]

I'm more concerned about their pregame show.........

its the worst I've ever seen...........racing armadillos?

c'mon guys..............boy does CBS ever suck at this

[WankTank]

I fucking hate the super bowl. its nothing exciting.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I'm going to go run an ad on Nickelodeon for Coors. Let's see how well that goes over.

I remember Danni Ashe getting on Nicelodeon... forget why and what she was on... bt it struck me funny that she would be on that channel.

[Rutopls]

Originally posted by NBDesign
If I have an open spot.. sure why not... All money is green.

No, No, No, I am sure that there are no open spots for the superbowl ads, you are saying that someone should be bumped for your politcal groups ad. Do you know all the backstory on this? I am sure that these ad spaces are booked well in advance, did they prepay the full price for the ad and it got denied?

Or did they try to go in late in the game to get a spot, probably wanted special considerations on price since they are a "political organization" and are now going for the extra bit of exposure that will come from being "censored" by the big bad corporate giant.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Rutopls



No, No, No, I am sure that there are no open spots for the superbowl ads, you are saying that someone should be bumped for your politcal groups ad. Do you know all the backstory on this? I am sure that these ad spaces are booked well in advance, did they prepay the full price for the ad and it got denied?

Or did they try to go in late in the game to get a spot, probably wanted special considerations on price since they are a "political organization" and are now going for the extra bit of exposure that will come from being "censored" by the big bad corporate giant.

Even if that was the case, it doesn't matter. A company should not be forced to run an ad that they don't deem appropriate. Comparing this to job discrimination is ridiculous.

Ok, here's a quick breakdown that may put it into a situation that some of our friends here may understand.

Let's just say for a minute that I run SleazyDream. I have this guy submitting galleries to me, they really suck. Over-exposed content, a sponsor I don't like, too many ads... the whole works. I decline him every week for months on end. This little prick is bound and determined to get listed on my site. So he buys some spots, right? Now since it's my site, I get to approve them first. This little fucker decides to be a smart ass and at the bottom of every gallery he writes "SleazyDream eats too many Big Macs!"

He paid. Am I obligated to approve the gallery? The gallery looks fine, no rules are being broken, but I'm not real happy with the text at the bottom. After all, it is money...

--

When I worked for Epic Cash we wanted to buy banner spots here at GFY. Lensman wouldn't sell them to us. Was he in the wrong? Money was money, we were ready to fork it out.

[Rutopls]

Originally posted by WankTank
I fucking hate the super bowl. its nothing exciting.

I only watch it for the commercials

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Fuck that. I'm running a KKK recruitment campaign on BET.

Damn dude you sure have a lot of cash to be running ads.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by Rutopls
Last time I checked the Superbowl is a entertainment event not a politcal or news commentary, they can do whatever they want.

Okay then, explain why they had no problem accepting the Bush admins ads that says marijuana users support terrorism. Not only is it misleading its politically based and its a hell of a lot more offensive.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by ThunderBalls


Okay then, explain why they had no problem accepting the Bush admins ads that says marijuana users support terrorism. Not only is it misleading its politically based and its a hell of a lot more offensive.

Right there you're dead on, no argument. But like I said, it's their company. All companies do the same thing. I do, you do.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by KRL
I was just at Publix supermarket and I can't believe they now have white plastic sheets to cover the front of Cosmopolitan and Glamour Magazines in the checkout lanes.

Noticed that a bit back at a local grocery, cover hiding all but name of Cosmo... thought for a moment they had started carrying adult magazines and had put them right by the candy

[AbulletAway]

Originally posted by NBDesign
With all the censorship that CBS is doing these days... No one should support this type of bullshit and not watch the super bowl today and stop watching CBS altogether until they change their policy.



During this year's Super Bowl, you'll see ads sponsored by beer companies, tobacco companies, and the Bush White House. But you won't see the winning ad in MoveOn.org Voter Fund's Bush in 30 Seconds ad contest. CBS refuses to air it.

Meanwhile, the White House and Congressional Republicans are on the verge of signing into law a deal which Senator John McCain (R-AZ) says is custom-tailored for CBS and Fox, allowing the two networks to grow much bigger. CBS lobbied hard for this rule change; MoveOn.org members across the country lobbied against it; and now the MoveOn.org ad has been rejected while the White House ad will be played. It looks an awful lot like CBS is playing politics with the right to free speech.

Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" ? especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President ? just isn't right.

I don't want to start any shit but WTF are you thinking? They should be allowed to the commercials they want. Why is it because they chose not to air something it's suddenly a right winged conspiracy?

I want to watch the game, see Britney dance around in her Pepsi commercial and have a few beers. Maybe in order to be fair you could place ads on your site, for those sponsors that got rejected. Oh and do you have the list of all the ads that were rejected? Were they all rejected because of the conspiracy? Is it possible that maybe some of them just sucked or they felt just didn't fit in with programming.

If you?re such a whore that you will take any money from advertiser?s maybe you should talk to sexed, I'm sure he wouldn't mind buying some ads for his next site on your site? What the hell it's just money as you said.

[Rutopls]

Originally posted by ThunderBalls


Okay then, explain why they had no problem accepting the Bush admins ads that says marijuana users support terrorism. Not only is it misleading its politically based and its a hell of a lot more offensive.

Lol re-read the part where it says they can do whatever they want, they are not required to present both sides of anything. Just as you can feel free to watch something else.

Here is a even better idea for those that are feeling Activist level today, take note of every sponsor that advertises during the superbowl and on CBS tonight. Organize writing campaigns to those sponsors that you are going to boycott thier products for advertising on CBS since they "Censor" ads. This should keep you busy for awhile.

A true definition of censorship would be that thier is no place to get your message out. That no channels would accept thier ad. Just because you cant get on during a certain show isnt censorship. Did they ask if they could run it on any other time frame? Or once again is this just an extra way to squeeze some additional news time for themselves? Fucking everyone cries when they cant get thier way... well do something about it by meaningfully contacting those that can make a change, the sponsors themselves, as long as they keep paying the ad fees CBS could give a fuck what you think...

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by Rutopls



Lol re-read the part where it says they can do whatever they want, they are not required to present both sides of anything. Just as you can feel free to watch something else.

Here is a even better idea for those that are feeling Activist level today, take note of every sponsor that advertises during the superbowl and on CBS tonight. Organize writing campaigns to those sponsors that you are going to boycott thier products for advertising on CBS since they "Censor" ads. This should keep you busy for awhile.

A true definition of censorship would be that thier is no place to get your message out. That no channels would accept thier ad. Just because you cant get on during a certain show isnt censorship. Did they ask if they could run it on any other time frame? Or once again is this just an extra way to squeeze some additional news time for themselves? Fucking everyone cries when they cant get thier way... well do something about it by meaningfully contacting those that can make a change, the sponsors themselves, as long as they keep paying the ad fees CBS could give a fuck what you think...

All that dribble from your fingers and you still failed to explain why they would accept ads from the Bush admin.

Of course they are a company and are free to do what they want, but what I would like to know is WHY they turned it down.

[Rutopls]

Because somewhere along the line, whoever makes those decisions decided through either thier political, economical or just plain flipping a coin decision to not run it.

Perhaps the Whitehouse actually bought the ads when they were supposed too, dont they run one every year? The point is that they are a private company, who paid large amounts of money to the NFL and can sell advertising to whoever they want.

I am just against twits telling private companies what to do based on thier own political beliefs. You want to run ads you like then start your own network or watch only the ones that are run by those with the same agenda as yourself.

I actually would rather see neither of thier ads, because I want to just sit and enjoy the game for a few hours without having to worry about all that other crap.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by KRL
I was just at Publix supermarket and I can't believe they now have white plastic sheets to cover the front of Cosmopolitan and Glamour Magazines in the checkout lanes.

considering the mags are eye high to a six year old, I'd say its wise.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by Rutopls
Because somewhere along the line, whoever makes those decisions decided through either thier political, economical or just plain flipping a coin decision to not run it.

Perhaps the Whitehouse actually bought the ads when they were supposed too, dont they run one every year? The point is that they are a private company, who paid large amounts of money to the NFL and can sell advertising to whoever they want.

I am just against twits telling private companies what to do based on thier own political beliefs. You want to run ads you like then start your own network or watch only the ones that are run by those with the same agenda as yourself.

I actually would rather see neither of thier ads, because I want to just sit and enjoy the game for a few hours without having to worry about all that other crap.

First off, I never said they 'have to' run their ad. I questioned why they would accept one ad and not another.

Secondly, they are not a 'private company'. CBS is owned by Viacom, a publicly traded company. Guess who owns the majority of stocks in this country....Republicans. Make sense to you now?

[12clicks]

oh, and normal people aren't interested in the rantings of moveon.org

[davidd]

Originally posted by NBDesign
With all the censorship that CBS is doing these days... No one should support this type of bullshit and not watch the super bowl today and stop watching CBS altogether until they change their policy.



During this year's Super Bowl, you'll see ads sponsored by beer companies, tobacco companies, and the Bush White House. But you won't see the winning ad in MoveOn.org Voter Fund's Bush in 30 Seconds ad contest. CBS refuses to air it.

Meanwhile, the White House and Congressional Republicans are on the verge of signing into law a deal which Senator John McCain (R-AZ) says is custom-tailored for CBS and Fox, allowing the two networks to grow much bigger. CBS lobbied hard for this rule change; MoveOn.org members across the country lobbied against it; and now the MoveOn.org ad has been rejected while the White House ad will be played. It looks an awful lot like CBS is playing politics with the right to free speech.

Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" ? especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President ? just isn't right.

The SuperBowl is a worldwide event, not an event to push US political views. CBS made a decision not to push their usual liberal agenda on the world. I am currently in the Caribbean and the natives are going wild at all the local parking lots of the sports books, the other FlashCash members throughout Europe are also bombarded with the SuperBowl right now. To deem this an equal opportunity for the left wing or right wing dipshits to push their vile fear tactics upon the world is insanity.

Enjoy the game.

-dd

[davidd]

Originally posted by ThunderBalls


First off, I never said they 'have to' run their ad. I questioned why they would accept one ad and not another.

Secondly, they are not a 'private company'. CBS is owned by Viacom, a publicly traded company. Guess who owns the majority of stocks in this country....Republicans. Make sense to you now?

Huh? Where did you get the political affiliation of the majority stock holders?

If this is the case, why is CBS one of the largest liberal sess pools put on broadcast TV?

[12clicks]

Originally posted by davidd


Huh? Where did you get the political affiliation of the majority stock holders?

If this is the case, why is CBS one of the largest liberal sess pools put on broadcast TV?

it was beemed down to his tinfoil hat.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally posted by davidd

why is CBS one of the largest liberal sess pools put on broadcast TV?

I'm sure you think all media outlets with the exception of FOX and Limpball are liberal 'sess pools'.

[BigFish]

fuck you too. don't watch it then! hah! by the way, national geographic has some kind of special on if you're interested!