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Old 02-01-2004, 02:02 PM   #1
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You decide: Fraud?

GFYers,

Am I being too hard on this guy? It seems like every time we suspend someone's account for fraud they try to tell me that it isn't fraud. You'd think they would just go on to the next guy.

Then of course we end up getting an email from Paycom the next day telling us the webmaster was fraudulent.

People you can not get away with this.



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Dear Frauder,

Bull Shit. Here are your two month stats:

48 uniques (we count first page, no funny stuff so those are the only 48 uniques)

5 Signups for a 1/10 ratjo.

You are telling me this is from TGP traffic?

Rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:13 PM
To: Rick Latona
Subject: Re: Conversion Ratio too good, you are frozen WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS



why I talked with chris today and told him that I had word of mouth that is why and I just bought a tgp site that was going to bring much more traffic I have done nothing wrong I swear you can check all my sales are from diffent IP address these are friends or people I meet online I build adult sites and talk with people all of them want to see what you offer not just the front of the sites I have only made 60 dollars this month that is nothing why are you doing this who is the owner of this company can I talk with him why do this????? over 60 dollars I made 90 last pay period I just dont understand

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Hello,



Your conversion ratio on CJ Bucks was 1:2. Please stop sending us fraudulent transactions. We have cancelled your account. Chris, make sure he isn?t getting hosting as well.



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Rick Latona



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Hydrogen Bomb Productions/ CJ Traffic
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:14 PM   #2
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was he russian?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:16 PM   #3
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he sounds russian
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:16 PM   #4
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:18 PM   #5
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was he russian?
He actually has a U.S. address. But his joins were also to different sites. One of our sites www.adultvideoonline.com converted at an amazing 1:1.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:18 PM   #6
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1:10 ratio is possible with TGP traffic

I have 1:10 ratios at some silvercash sites
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:18 PM   #7
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Too suspicious to me. Can his ass
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:19 PM   #8
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48 hits is way too earlier to tell
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:20 PM   #9
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you caught him..
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:22 PM   #10
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Here's his most recent reply:

Rick these hits are coming from tgps I have and also word of mouth I have 3-6 friends that are getting started in the adult business. you know your sites convert easy for 1 dollar anyone will do that I would anyday I would make it 2.95 or 3.95 I hope I can keep this account running you can see that none of these sales came from the same IP address I am just trying to get started in this business please email me back
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:24 PM   #11
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Here's his most recent reply:

Rick these hits are coming from tgps I have and also word of mouth I have 3-6 friends that are getting started in the adult business. you know your sites convert easy for 1 dollar anyone will do that I would anyday I would make it 2.95 or 3.95 I hope I can keep this account running you can see that none of these sales came from the same IP address I am just trying to get started in this business please email me back
Seems like he asked his friends to sign up?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:38 PM   #12
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Telling some other webmasters to sign up under his own ref-codes is fraud.

I have a bad day today, too. A cloaked website is listed higher then me in google. This russian fucker has copied my site and changed the linking codes.
Rick, would you care about this as a sponsor program owner?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:41 PM   #13
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:43 PM   #14
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go with your gut feeling. remember it's your business.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:47 PM   #15
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He actually has a U.S. address. But his joins were also to different sites. One of our sites www.adultvideoonline.com converted at an amazing 1:1.
Probably a drop box, is it in NY?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:48 PM   #16
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You could always meet him halfway. Pay him for 3 signups and tell him to take his "business" elsewhere.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:51 PM   #17
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Telling some other webmasters to sign up under his own ref-codes is fraud.

I have a bad day today, too. A cloaked website is listed higher then me in google. This russian fucker has copied my site and changed the linking codes.
Rick, would you care about this as a sponsor program owner?
I know how you feel. Consumption Junction as a term doesn't even list me on the first page of google search results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ption+junction
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:52 PM   #18
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obviously fraudelent, as i always got 1/3 with TGP traffic for CJ bucks...........
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:31 PM   #19
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:31 PM   #20
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Ok, so I'm trying to learn about this here......

I'm assuming these guys are doing some kind of "fake Buys" to get your pay outs, they get paid, they dissappear with the money by the time you find out it was a fraud?

Is that the game?
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:37 PM   #21
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Guys like that just waste it for others!
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:38 PM   #22
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guys like that ruin it for everyone else
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:47 PM   #23
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Originally posted by Rick Latona
GFYers,

Am I being too hard on this guy? It seems like every time we suspend someone's account for fraud they try to tell me that it isn't fraud. You'd think they would just go on to the next guy.

Then of course we end up getting an email from Paycom the next day telling us the webmaster was fraudulent.

People you can not get away with this.



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Dear Frauder,

Bull Shit. Here are your two month stats:

48 uniques (we count first page, no funny stuff so those are the only 48 uniques)

5 Signups for a 1/10 ratjo.

You are telling me this is from TGP traffic?

Rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:13 PM
To: Rick Latona
Subject: Re: Conversion Ratio too good, you are frozen WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS



why I talked with chris today and told him that I had word of mouth that is why and I just bought a tgp site that was going to bring much more traffic I have done nothing wrong I swear you can check all my sales are from diffent IP address these are friends or people I meet online I build adult sites and talk with people all of them want to see what you offer not just the front of the sites I have only made 60 dollars this month that is nothing why are you doing this who is the owner of this company can I talk with him why do this????? over 60 dollars I made 90 last pay period I just dont understand

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Your conversion ratio on CJ Bucks was 1:2. Please stop sending us fraudulent transactions. We have cancelled your account. Chris, make sure he isn?t getting hosting as well.



Regards,



Rick Latona



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Hydrogen Bomb Productions/ CJ Traffic
You talk too much to thieves.
now his next account will have a hitbot attached so his ratio looks legit.
Never tell a thief anything but goodbye
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:53 PM   #24
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A hitbot you say



























Maybe a proxy server too
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