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  • Rick Latona
    The Best Ideas Start Here
    • Dec 2002
    • 6037

    #1

    You decide: Fraud?

    GFYers,

    Am I being too hard on this guy? It seems like every time we suspend someone's account for fraud they try to tell me that it isn't fraud. You'd think they would just go on to the next guy.

    Then of course we end up getting an email from Paycom the next day telling us the webmaster was fraudulent.

    People you can not get away with this.



    __________________________________________________



    Dear Frauder,

    Bull Shit. Here are your two month stats:

    48 uniques (we count first page, no funny stuff so those are the only 48 uniques)

    5 Signups for a 1/10 ratjo.

    You are telling me this is from TGP traffic?

    Rick

    _________________________________________________

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:13 PM
    To: Rick Latona
    Subject: Re: Conversion Ratio too good, you are frozen WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS



    why I talked with chris today and told him that I had word of mouth that is why and I just bought a tgp site that was going to bring much more traffic I have done nothing wrong I swear you can check all my sales are from diffent IP address these are friends or people I meet online I build adult sites and talk with people all of them want to see what you offer not just the front of the sites I have only made 60 dollars this month that is nothing why are you doing this who is the owner of this company can I talk with him why do this????? over 60 dollars I made 90 last pay period I just dont understand

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hello,



    Your conversion ratio on CJ Bucks was 1:2. Please stop sending us fraudulent transactions. We have cancelled your account. Chris, make sure he isn?t getting hosting as well.



    Regards,



    Rick Latona



    President/ CEO

    Dollars.com/ Consumption Junction/ CJ Bucks/

    Hydrogen Bomb Productions/ CJ Traffic
    Regards,

    Rick Latona
    http://latonas.com

    Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
    Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.
  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    was he russian?

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    • wdsguy
      Ryde or Die
      • Dec 2002
      • 19568

      #3
      he sounds russian

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      • ~Ray
        visit hardlinks.org
        • Jun 2003
        • 18361

        #4
        carder
        Adult Backlinks for Adult Websites - Testimonials Available

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        • Rick Latona
          The Best Ideas Start Here
          • Dec 2002
          • 6037

          #5
          Originally posted by juicylinks
          was he russian?
          He actually has a U.S. address. But his joins were also to different sites. One of our sites www.adultvideoonline.com converted at an amazing 1:1.
          Regards,

          Rick Latona
          http://latonas.com

          Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
          Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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          • Mike-BP
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2003
            • 1270

            #6
            1:10 ratio is possible with TGP traffic

            I have 1:10 ratios at some silvercash sites
            Thanks to: ISPrime.com - best hosting company without downtime

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            • Spunky
              I need a beer
              • Jun 2002
              • 133978

              #7
              Too suspicious to me. Can his ass

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              • Strife
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 4534

                #8
                48 hits is way too earlier to tell
                Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet

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                • SoundMan
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3471

                  #9
                  you caught him..

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                  • Rick Latona
                    The Best Ideas Start Here
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 6037

                    #10
                    Here's his most recent reply:

                    Rick these hits are coming from tgps I have and also word of mouth I have 3-6 friends that are getting started in the adult business. you know your sites convert easy for 1 dollar anyone will do that I would anyday I would make it 2.95 or 3.95 I hope I can keep this account running you can see that none of these sales came from the same IP address I am just trying to get started in this business please email me back
                    Regards,

                    Rick Latona
                    http://latonas.com

                    Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
                    Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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                    • Mike-BP
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1270

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rick Latona
                      Here's his most recent reply:

                      Rick these hits are coming from tgps I have and also word of mouth I have 3-6 friends that are getting started in the adult business. you know your sites convert easy for 1 dollar anyone will do that I would anyday I would make it 2.95 or 3.95 I hope I can keep this account running you can see that none of these sales came from the same IP address I am just trying to get started in this business please email me back
                      Seems like he asked his friends to sign up?
                      Thanks to: ISPrime.com - best hosting company without downtime

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                      • Slinx
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2003
                        • 823

                        #12
                        Telling some other webmasters to sign up under his own ref-codes is fraud.

                        I have a bad day today, too. A cloaked website is listed higher then me in google. This russian fucker has copied my site and changed the linking codes.
                        Rick, would you care about this as a sponsor program owner?

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                        • Slinx
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 823

                          #13
                          "I have 6 credit cards. Each is buying one trial daily"

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                          • acctman
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 2840

                            #14
                            go with your gut feeling. remember it's your business.

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                            • Vox
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 2710

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rick Latona


                              He actually has a U.S. address. But his joins were also to different sites. One of our sites www.adultvideoonline.com converted at an amazing 1:1.
                              Probably a drop box, is it in NY?
                              Social profile assassination for hire

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                              • KC
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 1995
                                • 2417

                                #16
                                You could always meet him halfway. Pay him for 3 signups and tell him to take his "business" elsewhere.

                                Jupiter Hosting, Inc.
                                Vice President, Business Development
                                kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

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                                • Rick Latona
                                  The Best Ideas Start Here
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 6037

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Slinx
                                  Telling some other webmasters to sign up under his own ref-codes is fraud.

                                  I have a bad day today, too. A cloaked website is listed higher then me in google. This russian fucker has copied my site and changed the linking codes.
                                  Rick, would you care about this as a sponsor program owner?
                                  I know how you feel. Consumption Junction as a term doesn't even list me on the first page of google search results:

                                  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ption+junction
                                  Regards,

                                  Rick Latona
                                  http://latonas.com

                                  Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
                                  Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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                                  • SleazyDream
                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 41470

                                    #18
                                    obviously fraudelent, as i always got 1/3 with TGP traffic for CJ bucks...........
                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                    • Bell
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 298

                                      #19
                                      experience and gut... can't beat that combination...

                                      ~Bell
                                      come peek at the over 2000 available hot domain names
                                      I have listed here:
                                      DomainBELL.com

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                                      • EmporerEJ
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 282

                                        #20
                                        Ok, so I'm trying to learn about this here......

                                        I'm assuming these guys are doing some kind of "fake Buys" to get your pay outs, they get paid, they dissappear with the money by the time you find out it was a fraud?

                                        Is that the game?

                                        Eric J. White
                                        Earn $$$ with the Virtual Sex Machine Affiliate program!

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                                        • Michaelious
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 6720

                                          #21
                                          Guys like that just waste it for others!

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                                          • Michaelious
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 6720

                                            #22
                                            guys like that ruin it for everyone else

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19813

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                              GFYers,

                                              Am I being too hard on this guy? It seems like every time we suspend someone's account for fraud they try to tell me that it isn't fraud. You'd think they would just go on to the next guy.

                                              Then of course we end up getting an email from Paycom the next day telling us the webmaster was fraudulent.

                                              People you can not get away with this.



                                              __________________________________________________



                                              Dear Frauder,

                                              Bull Shit. Here are your two month stats:

                                              48 uniques (we count first page, no funny stuff so those are the only 48 uniques)

                                              5 Signups for a 1/10 ratjo.

                                              You are telling me this is from TGP traffic?

                                              Rick

                                              _________________________________________________

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
                                              Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:13 PM
                                              To: Rick Latona
                                              Subject: Re: Conversion Ratio too good, you are frozen WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS



                                              why I talked with chris today and told him that I had word of mouth that is why and I just bought a tgp site that was going to bring much more traffic I have done nothing wrong I swear you can check all my sales are from diffent IP address these are friends or people I meet online I build adult sites and talk with people all of them want to see what you offer not just the front of the sites I have only made 60 dollars this month that is nothing why are you doing this who is the owner of this company can I talk with him why do this????? over 60 dollars I made 90 last pay period I just dont understand

                                              ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                              Hello,



                                              Your conversion ratio on CJ Bucks was 1:2. Please stop sending us fraudulent transactions. We have cancelled your account. Chris, make sure he isn?t getting hosting as well.



                                              Regards,



                                              Rick Latona



                                              President/ CEO

                                              Dollars.com/ Consumption Junction/ CJ Bucks/

                                              Hydrogen Bomb Productions/ CJ Traffic
                                              You talk too much to thieves.
                                              now his next account will have a hitbot attached so his ratio looks legit.
                                              Never tell a thief anything but goodbye
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • jimboc
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2002
                                                • 1614

                                                #24
                                                A hitbot you say



























                                                Maybe a proxy server too

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