Which is best - Good Guy or Bad Guy SEO - GoFuckYourself.com

pussyluver · 01-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Google is still dancing - it?s like Florida revisited. Ethical SEO or not ? what works?

I?m still seeing my sites bounce around on SERPs. My sites may enjoy a few hours of decent placement and then back to page 7 or 30. I haven?t seen this since the Florida project, which was great, because I won somewhat and got more traffic. I?ve tried to stick to the ethical SEO and decided to avoid use of refer-bomb and cloaker programs, thinking that in the end the unethical SEO would put those sites off the list. How long would it take to recover? So the question is, which way do you go on SEO ? good guy or bad guy?

What optimization works for one webmaster may not work for another. That lends support to the theories that Google uses different algorithms for different categories of sites or different keywords. Many have talked about the ?cash? words. Google has created a ton of confusion with this dance. Why would I be a PR5 yesterday and a PR4 today? I did nothing but add content! PR doesn?t mean shit anyway; it?s keyword placement that counts.

It doesn?t take much to look through the backlinks of those in front of me on a keyword to see if they?re using a referbomb. So if I can figure it out, Google can certainly write the code to do the same. They can also detect proxy hits on Google and determine who the beneficiaries are. I got it, referbomb your competitors!!

So after this dance is over and I look at the sites in front of me and see referbomb evidence, do I or don?t I?

- Jesus Christ - · 01-30-2004, 12:05 PM

Both.... seperate IP blocks.

Tipsy · 01-30-2004, 01:41 PM

A few months back I would have answered differently. The Jesus guy probably sums up my current feelings best though.

bdld · 01-30-2004, 02:11 PM

I say be ethical.. it will hopefully pay off in the long run

detoxed · 01-30-2004, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by bdld
I say be ethical.. it will hopefully pay off in the long run

right after the unethical guys retire with all the $$

xxxjay · 01-30-2004, 02:20 PM

i've found honest longterm pays off

gornyhuy · 01-30-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
i've found honest longterm pays off

can't argue with Jay's results...

Rorschach · 01-30-2004, 02:51 PM

Google has shown that they will crap on the ethical and the unethical alike.

Tipsy · 01-30-2004, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach
Google has shown that they will crap on the ethical and the unethical alike.

AdultNex · 01-30-2004, 06:06 PM

Black hat SEO all the way!

pussyluver · 01-30-2004, 09:15 PM

Bump for the evening (well here anyway) crowd.

View Poll Results: Which is best NOW - God Guy or Bad Guy SEO
Bad Guy - Use Programs like Cloaker and Refer Bom	5	33.33%
Good Guy - Be Ethical	5	33.33%
Don't give a shit - Nothing works for me.	2	13.33%
Don't give a shit - I always win anyway	3	20.00%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

01-30-2004, 12:01 PM	#1
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Which is best - Good Guy or Bad Guy SEO Google is still dancing - it?s like Florida revisited. Ethical SEO or not ? what works? I?m still seeing my sites bounce around on SERPs. My sites may enjoy a few hours of decent placement and then back to page 7 or 30. I haven?t seen this since the Florida project, which was great, because I won somewhat and got more traffic. I?ve tried to stick to the ethical SEO and decided to avoid use of refer-bomb and cloaker programs, thinking that in the end the unethical SEO would put those sites off the list. How long would it take to recover? So the question is, which way do you go on SEO ? good guy or bad guy? What optimization works for one webmaster may not work for another. That lends support to the theories that Google uses different algorithms for different categories of sites or different keywords. Many have talked about the ?cash? words. Google has created a ton of confusion with this dance. Why would I be a PR5 yesterday and a PR4 today? I did nothing but add content! PR doesn?t mean shit anyway; it?s keyword placement that counts. It doesn?t take much to look through the backlinks of those in front of me on a keyword to see if they?re using a referbomb. So if I can figure it out, Google can certainly write the code to do the same. They can also detect proxy hits on Google and determine who the beneficiaries are. I got it, referbomb your competitors!! So after this dance is over and I look at the sites in front of me and see referbomb evidence, do I or don?t I? Last edited by pussyluver; 01-30-2004 at 12:04 PM..

01-30-2004, 12:05 PM	#2
- Jesus Christ - Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ::::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: ::::::\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|:::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::: Posts: 7,197	Both.... seperate IP blocks. __________________ Amen

01-30-2004, 01:41 PM	#3
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	A few months back I would have answered differently. The Jesus guy probably sums up my current feelings best though. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

01-30-2004, 02:20 PM	#6
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	i've found honest longterm pays off __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

01-30-2004, 02:11 PM	#4
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	I say be ethical.. it will hopefully pay off in the long run

01-30-2004, 02:51 PM	#8
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	Google has shown that they will crap on the ethical and the unethical alike.

01-30-2004, 06:06 PM	#10
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Black hat SEO all the way!

01-30-2004, 09:15 PM	#11
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Bump for the evening (well here anyway) crowd.