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Old 01-28-2004, 04:05 PM   #51
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jesus it never ends.

i told people that this is exactly Jeff's modus operandi - it almost seems pathological, like he can't himself from doing this to people.

to write a bad check is one of the most embarassing things i can think of - he doesn't seem to care - to write a bad check intentionally is a crime in many places.

oh well.

which site is Akira's? MadisonTeen?
Mutt,

Her site is not done yet. Honestly, it's half because I have been lazy and busy with another project, and half because of some mojor local drama we needed to get through. I would say realistically it will be at least another week.

Hit me up and I'll give you the url...

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Old 01-28-2004, 04:10 PM   #52
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Amazing anyone dealt with this cockholster at all!

There is one group on GFY who helped give Jeff credibility... this same group has yet to come out and condemn Jeff and his busniess practices.

Wonder if anyone even pays attention to these things?
OK , I am here to be counted, not as part of any group, they can speak for themselfes. I did not want to get involved in bad mouthing him because I have been paid !(well mostly still outstanding NSF charges) I had the same problem with Jeff everytime I have dealt with him. The Lies, the cheques sent, the never arriving wires with the phony tracking #'s .I had Given him chances so he can get his program off the ground, then had to chase him because he did not adhere to the time frame agreed. The only reason I had gotten paid is because I treathened to go public with the story. Jeff has purchased advertisements on my sites, these are paid for and will not be removed.
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I also offered to run ads for him on a cash and carry basis only, when he asked, to counter the bad publicity! Please beware if you do any business with him, Neighter I or anyone else can guarantee that he will do as he says
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Old 01-28-2004, 04:19 PM   #53
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Amazing anyone dealt with this cockholster at all!

There is one group on GFY who helped give Jeff credibility... this same group has yet to come out and condemn Jeff and his busniess practices.

Wonder if anyone even pays attention to these things?

Well, my ears are burning, and my icq is lighting up... so I suppose you are referring to me.

I have taken the time to get to know Jeff, and I have offered him advice on some of this past issues to help him get on the right track. I'm nice to everyone. Sorry, its my nature.

Jeff also owes a few of my friends money, and I'm trying to be patient about it. I'm positive it will be resolved without drama on a message board. For the record, I don't believe in kicking a man while he's down.

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Old 01-28-2004, 04:23 PM   #54
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OK , I am here to be counted, not as part of any group, they can speak for themselfes. I did not want to get involved in bad mouthing him because I have been paid !(well mostly still outstanding NSF charges) I had the same problem with Jeff everytime I have dealt with him. The Lies, the cheques sent, the never arriving wires with the phony tracking #'s .I had Given him chances so he can get his program off the ground, then had to chase him because he did not adhere to the time frame agreed. The only reason I had gotten paid is because I treathened to go public with the story. Jeff has purchased advertisements on my sites, these are paid for and will not be removed.
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I also offered to run ads for him on a cash and carry basis only, when he asked, to counter the bad publicity! Please beware if you do any business with him, Neighter I or anyone else can guarantee that he will do as he says
I agree with you on the bad mouthing part. I never threatened him with to go public, as I thought this may lead to him never paying her. I tried to act reasonalbe and proffesional this whole time. The final straw for me was today when I called him FROM THE BANK LOBBY IN FRONT OF THE TELLER and told him I was tired of the BS he told me to "fuck off!" This was the 2nd time I was at the bank, and AFTER he told us there was a $7.00 difference in his account. Between the first and second visit to the bank I had to go to my bank to withdrawl cash to put into his to try the check again (I rarely carry cash on me). I was prepared to go up to $100.00 deposit if I had to, but again, the teller said that STILL was not enough.

Thank you for posting man, I know it may have been a hard decision to come out with your problem with Jeff. We appreciate it very much.
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Nothing against you, but I think he is kicking himself.
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Well, my ears are burning, and my icq is lighting up... so I suppose you are referring to me.

I have taken the time to get to know Jeff, and I have offered him advice on some of this past issues to help him get on the right track. I'm nice to everyone. Sorry, its my nature.

Jeff also owes a few of my friends money, and I'm trying to be patient about it. I'm positive it will be resolved without drama on a message board. For the record, I don't believe in kicking a man while he's down.

Steve Lightspeed
I'm not kicking him while he is down. If I wanted to do that, I would have started this thread the day after we got back from Vegas. Steve you don't need the money, and were not repeatedly promised you would have it over and over......Arika was told all of this and more.

We have stood by while EVERYONE else has gottenpadi (and deservidly so). I had no problem with him paying those he owed more money to and for a linger period of time before he paid Arika. My problem is that he put her off because he knew he could, then he wrote a bad check. That's not kicking him while he's down, it's getting pushed aside, put off, the screwed.

And for the record, I don't think they were refering to you.
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Well, my ears are burning, and my icq is lighting up... so I suppose you are referring to me.

I have taken the time to get to know Jeff, and I have offered him advice on some of this past issues to help him get on the right track. I'm nice to everyone. Sorry, its my nature.

Jeff also owes a few of my friends money, and I'm trying to be patient about it. I'm positive it will be resolved without drama on a message board. For the record, I don't believe in kicking a man while he's down.

Steve Lightspeed
Steve you are a Gentlemen! You have helped me in this matter in the past, and I thank you for that. While I do not believe in kicking a man while he is down same as you, This situation must be dealt with so others do not end up being victimised. I had stayed out of all the other bashing threads hoping that the situation gets resolved.The poor model who is involved in this one does not deserve to be fucked around !
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Old 01-28-2004, 04:31 PM   #59
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Nope, I was typing another response, sorry. I replied to your ICQ.
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I'm not kicking him while he is down. If I wanted to do that, I would have started this thread the day after we got back from Vegas. Steve you don't need the money, and were not repeatedly promised you would have it over and over......Arika was told all of this and more.

We have stood by while EVERYONE else has gottenpadi (and deservidly so). I had no problem with him paying those he owed more money to and for a linger period of time before he paid Arika. My problem is that he put her off because he knew he could, then he wrote a bad check. That's not kicking him while he's down, it's getting pushed aside, put off, the screwed.

And for the record, I don't think they were refering to you.
If he owes your girl money, then by all means it should be paid immediately. I have told Jeff to pay every bill the day he gets it. I wasn't criticizing you for posting your issues with Jeff. I was mearly commenting on why I haven't said much about Jeff's recent problems.

Good Luck to ya, when I talk to Jeff again I'll do my best to help you get everything sorted out right away.

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Steve you are a Gentlemen! You have helped me in this matter in the past, and I thank you for that. While I do not believe in kicking a man while he is down same as you, This situation must be dealt with so others do not end up being victimised. I had stayed out of all the other bashing threads hoping that the situation gets resolved.The poor model who is involved in this one does not deserve to be fucked around !
JFK,

Arika says "Thank You". And I agree, although I have never pesronally met him, I too think Steve is a gentleman and a good business man. I passed him and a lovely lady he had with him. I could tell by the way he carried himself he was very confident and proffesional. I wanted to approach him to introduce myself, but I was not sure who he was he with. Maybe I'll get the chance in Florida this year.
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If he owes your girl money, then by all means it should be paid immediately. I have told Jeff to pay every bill the day he gets it. I wasn't criticizing you for posting your issues with Jeff. I was mearly commenting on why I haven't said much about Jeff's recent problems.

Good Luck to ya, when I talk to Jeff again I'll do my best to help you get everything sorted out right away.

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Thanks for your help and support Steve!
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Thanks for your help and support Steve!
as I said Steve is a Gentleman, and one of the most Straight and honest people in this biz
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I like the Perfection Girls site(s) ... but the more I read the more I'm hesistant to do business with them.

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i fucked her.

Not like Jman and Jeff did, but in the more traditional sence.

And get those pics of her and me back online!
Huh?

Where do I fit in all of this Drama...eh?
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Got another appointement this weekend. Getting pretty colorfull ;-)
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"The more hesitant....." ??????

Dravyk....I'm going to send you a brick via fedex. I will instruct the delivery person to remove the brick and smack you in the head with it.

This perfectiongirls dude has problem after problem after problem after problem. After awhile, it's obvious where the real problem lies, and it isn't at the bank.

The problem with our business is that there are so few business people in it.
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That sucks for the model.. the one thing that has helped us over the years is we always pay.. if not OVER pay the girls for the work they did, I guess that is why at purecash.com we have some of the hottest amateurs around.

I would hope Jeff would pay as I am sure he will.

Steve great seeing you in Vegas.. maybe we should get you to New Orleans soon !
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"The more hesitant....." ??????

Dravyk....I'm going to send you a brick via fedex. I will instruct the delivery person to remove the brick and smack you in the head with it.

This perfectiongirls dude has problem after problem after problem after problem. After awhile, it's obvious where the real problem lies, and it isn't at the bank.

The problem with our business is that there are so few business people in it.
Jeff is this how you really feel ??
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Yes, after reading all this, we would also like to find some good alternatives. Jeff and his crew were very nice to us in Vegas, but it seems like he's a different kind of person than we thought
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Yes, after reading all this, we would also like to find some good alternatives. Jeff and his crew were very nice to us in Vegas, but it seems like he's a different kind of person than we thought
Jeff is a likeable person, I still like him after all we went tru.He is Robbing Peter to pay Paul, trying to get his program going. He needs to get a partner with money to solidify his current affairs, pay up all the bills.This partner should control the pursestrings, and let Jeff do what he does best, finding cute new talent
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Jeff is a likeable person, I still like him after all we went tru.He is Robbing Peter to pay Paul, trying to get his program going. He needs to get a partner with money to solidify his current affairs, pay up all the bills.This partner should control the pursestrings, and let Jeff do what he does best, finding cute new talent
Which one of the girls that he promotes did he actually find himself?
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"The more hesitant....." ??????

Dravyk....I'm going to send you a brick via fedex. I will instruct the delivery person to remove the brick and smack you in the head with it.

This perfectiongirls dude has problem after problem after problem after problem. After awhile, it's obvious where the real problem lies, and it isn't at the bank.

The problem with our business is that there are so few business people in it.
That's a pretty funny visual about the delivery person hitting Dravyk in the head with a brick.....sorry to interrupt the drama...but, I know and love Dravyk to pieces and I fear more for the brick than I do for Dravyk's head. LOL
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lol, trademark jeff, whatcha gonna do?

glad he at least paid the other designers of recent he owed.
Yeah, we are glad they got paid too. This is one reason we didn't push him harder to follow through faster. We knew there were people who were owed more and for longer than what he owed Arika.
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Man, if I had $1 for every one of these Jeff threads I would have enough to pay all his fucking bills.

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is he still in business?
As of yesterday, he was still in business. I know his checking account still exists anyway. I am having someone looki nto his business license status today, as I have left a message with the Attoney Genereal's Office already this morning. I will update as I get more info.
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:59 AM   #89
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get it on video pls
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:18 AM   #90
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There is one group on GFY who helped give Jeff credibility... this same group has yet to come out and condemn Jeff and his busniess practices
I also wonder if the same group realize that the shit Jeff has done is also starting to affect their credibility with quite a few webmasters.

Why hasn't he been banned from here already
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:31 AM   #91
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Jeff is a complete fuckup, who couldn't run a business if his life depended on it.
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:35 AM   #92
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Yeah, we are glad they got paid too. This is one reason we didn't push him harder to follow through faster. We knew there were people who were owed more and for longer than what he owed Arika.

he didn't pay all of them.
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It seems if newbreed keeps at this guy he will get paid. Good luck.
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:47 AM   #94
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He wrote ANOTHER bad check.
Okay clue me in.. writing bad check is a crime so why aren't you calling cops instead of crying on gfy?
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:50 AM   #95
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Telling your got fucked story by Jeff is great way to make new friends on GFY
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:52 AM   #96
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:53 AM   #97
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Hey man, that is a great sig you are sportin there....

I am gonna have to get me one of those calendars...
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Telling your got fucked story by Jeff is great way to make new friends on GFY
If my intention with this thread was to make friends, I'd give a fuck about your post.

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Old 01-29-2004, 01:42 PM   #100
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You are a lying, cheating piece of shit! STOP fucking calling me! It should be obvious we are tired of your fucking lying and cheating. I'll be on the phone tomorrow with everyone I can possibly find to make sure you NEVER do this to anyone again.
dude i did warn you. i told you not to do it, you went right ahead and did it, i was trying to offer help as a friend, we nearly had a good thing.

what makes you think that everyone you call will listen to you like you listened to me?

perfection jeff 1 : 0 newbreed
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