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Roger 01-28-2004 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


go take a bath frenchie.

Actually you summed up what he was saying.

soldierdog 01-28-2004 07:28 PM

Its all about the Evil Money Hungry Americans. Those bastards have no morals at all, every decision made is signed in blood and everyone in the government wants to fuck as many people as possible. Everything you see is a lie, coverup and evil act. There isn't a single act of good will coming out of the States didn't you know.

They are the devil looking to squash eveyone in sight like an ant, diabolique to the core.

Not

Roger 01-28-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by soldierdog
Its all about the Evil Money Hungry Americans. Those bastards have no morals at all, every decision made is signed in blood and everyone in the government wants to fuck as many people as possible. Everything you see is a lie, coverup and evil act. There isn't a single act of good will coming out of the States didn't you know.

They are the devil looking to squash eveyone in sight like an ant, diabolique to the core.

Not

No actually that wouldn't be so bad. Many of them wanted the oil control but Bush have much more sinister plans, he's a a religious extremist who believes that God gave him a mission.

bhutocracy 01-28-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add


Hey Mic;
Why don't you shut the fuck up and take your dick out of that kangaroo's ass? :321GFY

whatever frenchie. keep yapping you self hating french poodle.

soldierdog 01-28-2004 07:45 PM

Roger your facts are incorrect on each of those points except the first one, but it will take a lot of time to bring the actual resolutions into this forum, time that I don't have right at this second.


I will say this, when a country surrenders and signs the terms and conditions of the surrender and doesn't follow them, they are still at war. The U.N. failed to enforce this, they were asked to enforce the resolutions they implemented and said no. That is the point at which the U.N. was becoming irrelevant and that is another argument.


The occupation of Palestein is a factual argument up for debate since the real Palestein was Jordan I believe and that Jews were also called Palestinians. In this context there was no occupation and the right of return means the end of Israel simply by numbers alone. There is no way Israel is giving up its country, end of story, so suicide killers are just that, killers.


I've also known several Iraqi's that were chearing on the U.S.

Your Iraqi's vs mine LOL


I have to flat out say your crazy to think that all countries should have Nukes, you really think Saddam should have had a Nuke. You really think a guy that gassed the Kurds in the way he did should have a Nuke, mass graves, rape rooms and torcher. Those are talking points but they are also facts. You think Mugabi should have a Nuke. That really isn't a sane comment.

Loryn 01-28-2004 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


what's priceless is people like you saying "invading Iraq is not about oil" but "the frenchies? - whoah ALL ABOUT OIL".
domestic blindness at it's best.

Where did I say that in this thread??? What's priceless is you not understanding the thread and my response to it. :1orglaugh

Domestic blindness at it's best was my point in this thread. HELLO???? :321GFY

There are many reasons why we invaded Iraq. And it had nothing to do with the damn French. They ran away, if you remember correctly.

And I will say that oil is one of the reasons. We do not want that resource in the hands of a madman. We would rather it be in the hands of the Iraqi people so they can use their resources to better their lives and help the world.

And BTW we do not care who they sale it too, they will probably sell it to the French again even though they didn't do shit to save them. Money is money!!

soldierdog 01-28-2004 07:52 PM

Common Roger,

Bush doesn't believe God gave him permission. Knock it off. He probably believes he is doing right in a moral sense.

I can picture him walking around with George Burns in Oh God, You Devil.

soldierdog 01-28-2004 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


And I will say that oil is one of the reasons. We do not want that resource in the hands of a madman. We would rather it be in the hands of the Iraqi people so they can use their resources to better their lives and help the world.


Good point. This war looks way beyond Iraq, Iraq is a small part of a very complex and much larger war.

Pornwolf 01-28-2004 07:58 PM

This will not deter me from dating this hot French chick I met yesterday. Call me a traitor if you want.

I will do my patriotic duty and pull her hair and hit it really hard from behind as punishment for her fellow frogs.

Roger 01-28-2004 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by soldierdog
I will say this, when a country surrenders and signs the terms and conditions of the surrender and doesn't follow them, they are still at war. The U.N. failed to enforce this, they were asked to enforce the resolutions they implemented and said no. That is the point at which the U.N. was becoming irrelevant and that is another argument.


So?
If the UN is irrelevant, then why does Bush keep begging them for help and asking them to get involved in Iraq? Shut them down and create a new organisation that will follow rules set by the US. And we'll see what happens when US allies don't follow the rules :)

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The occupation of Palestein is a factual argument up for debate since the real Palestein was Jordan I believe and that Jews were also called Palestinians. In this context there was no occupation and the right of return means the end of Israel simply by numbers alone. There is no way Israel is giving up its country, end of story, so suicide killers are just that, killers.
No they just came and occupied a country that's not theirs.

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I have to flat out say your crazy to think that all countries should have Nukes, you really think Saddam should have had a Nuke. You really think a guy that gassed the Kurds in the way he did should have a Nuke, mass graves, rape rooms and torcher. Those are talking points but they are also facts. You think Mugabi should have a Nuke. That really isn't a sane comment.
Look at Pakistan and India. They stopped fighting the moment they got those nukes.
No, Saddam is a special case. He refused to use his nukes in the face of a certain invasion, maybe he should be up for a nobel prize :)

Peter Romero 01-28-2004 08:01 PM

Loryn, call me 818-360-4352

Roger 01-28-2004 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by soldierdog
Common Roger,

Bush doesn't believe God gave him permission. Knock it off. He probably believes he is doing right in a moral sense.

I can picture him walking around with George Burns in Oh God, You Devil.

Oh really? Here's what he said during a meeting with Abbas.

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God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them

soldierdog 01-28-2004 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Roger


Look at Pakistan and India. They stopped fighting the moment they got those nukes.
No, Saddam is a special case. He refused to use his nukes in the face of a certain invasion, maybe he should be up for a nobel prize :)

Yes, maybe he can share with Yassar Arafat ;)

The fact is that I can't remember any information on India and Pakistan using chemical weapons on their people and they have been on the brink of Nuclear Annhilation on several occasions. They continue to have the bloodshed in Kashmir but with the new talks happening at least there is some hope of resolving the confilct. However, its not as if you can fuckup with Nuclear war like you can with conventional wars. One fuckup and everyone is up shit creek without a paddle.

I will have to agree to disagree about how the Israeli situation began but the fact remains that Israel is staying so the Palestinians are going to have to give up the Suicide Killing of Innocent people if they want Peace, no right of return. End of story.

soldierdog 01-28-2004 08:21 PM

Apollo flew his chariot across the sky everyday.

Do you think that the greeks actually believed some guy Apollo flew a fiery chariot through the sky everyday. Or do you think that maybe that was how they explained the movement of the sun?

Do you think Bush and 50% or more of the population speaks in a language taught to them and passed down through religion?

"Like God talked to me and told me to yadahdada" Interpreted means I thought about this long and hard and searched my inner deepest conscience which led me to make this decision based on my purest deepest thoughts. The same process people like myself who are not religious go through described in a different manner. Not to mention, when in Rome ......

Roger 01-28-2004 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by soldierdog
The fact is that I can't remember any information on India and Pakistan using chemical weapons on their people and they have been on the brink of Nuclear Annhilation on several occasions. They continue to have the bloodshed in Kashmir but with the new talks happening at least there is some hope of resolving the confilct. However, its not as if you can fuckup with Nuclear war like you can with conventional wars. One fuckup and everyone is up shit creek without a paddle.
People tend to be more forgiving of mistakes when they realise what's at stake.

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I will have to agree to disagree about how the Israeli situation began but the fact remains that Israel is staying so the Palestinians are going to have to give up the Suicide Killing of Innocent people if they want Peace, no right of return. End of story.
Try to tell them that. What are you gonna tell them? "Sure if it wasn't for Arafat's plan to use terror as a tool you'd still be in exile from your lands. Sure Israelis used terror on the British in order to get there country. Sure Tibetants have opted for peacefull resistance, so far they got nothing from it and nobody cares but please try to be more like them." ? :)

foolio 01-28-2004 08:26 PM

As I have said many, many times............


back to freedom fires!

Roger 01-28-2004 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by soldierdog
Do you think Bush and 50% or more of the population speaks in a language taught to them and passed down through religion?

"Like God talked to me and told me to yadahdada" Interpreted means I thought about this long and hard and searched my inner deepest conscience which led me to make this decision based on my purest deepest thoughts. The same process people like myself who are not religious go through described in a different manner. Not to mention, when in Rome ......

Oh yeah sure, of course that's what he meant :)
Did you even hear his State of the Union speech?

Cassie 01-28-2004 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Slick
WOW, that's crazy stuff there. I guess that we'll just have to go invade France now because they were helping Iraq :)
the french were building reactors for iraq back in the 80's (possibly earlier). there was this whole show on the discovery channel about this some while ago. didnt surprise me much.....

hyper 01-28-2004 08:56 PM

the truth is the french loaned them money. along with the germans and russians.

in exchange for oil contracts


so thats why they opposed the war. its a known fact

wdsguy 01-28-2004 08:57 PM

u can't trust those pussy frenchies!

radical 01-28-2004 09:03 PM

We ain't got any amry left to fight anyone else!!

Roger 01-28-2004 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by hyper
the truth is the french loaned them money. along with the germans and russians.

In exchange for oil contracts

Sso thats why they opposed the war. its a known fact

So? And the US was there most important oil importing client.
True $2 billion is a lot of money, I'm sure there's no way in hell they'd have made a lot more once Iraq gets invaded and the Iraqis get access to the Western market :)

bhutocracy 01-28-2004 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


Where did I say that in this thread??? What's priceless is you not understanding the thread and my response to it. :1orglaugh


no you posted a link with no comment then got all prissy when people didn't cheer you on and went on about how they thought it was fake which is why you retreated into "wah, if this was the US you'd all be aggreeing with the article"

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Domestic blindness at it's best was my point in this thread. HELLO???? :321GFY

up to the point of my reply you had made absolutely NO POINT AT ALL execpt a little whinge that they'd agree with it if it suited what they believed.

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There are many reasons why we invaded Iraq. And it had nothing to do with the damn French. They ran away, if you remember correctly.

who said it had anything to do with the french? when did they "run away"? all i remember is them trying to protect their oil contracts and investments the way any country would do.

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And I will say that oil is one of the reasons. We do not want that resource in the hands of a madman. We would rather it be in the hands of the Iraqi people so they can use their resources to better their lives and help the world.

And BTW we do not care who they sale it too, they will probably sell it to the French again even though they didn't do shit to save them. Money is money!!

very naive but at least you accept it was one of the reasons. The US didn't invade to put the resource in the hands of the people.. lol. the US doesn't even really want them to have a real democracy - hell *I* don't want to risk them having a real democracy, they're not ready for it - it would be very close to being another islamic state if real elections were held today. Hooray we would have created another Iran. At least Saddam kept a reasonably secular state.


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