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Old 01-28-2004, 03:27 AM   #1
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Price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)?!

Hello!
Tell me please normal price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)...
May be my price very low?

My new price:

Solo Girl - 100 euro for 100 images or 1 movie (30 min)

Min volume - 3 sets or 3 movies with 1 model
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Old 01-28-2004, 03:46 AM   #2
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Cheap?
Nah....i am selling 3 sets of pics exclusive custom for 300$....5 sets for 450$....8 sets for 700$....
And my prices are in dollars not euros
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Nah....i am selling 3 sets of pics exclusive custom for 300$....5 sets for 450$....8 sets for 700$....
And my prices are in dollars not euros
Your price for movies?
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For the quality you two shoot I would say you are both too expensive.

It's not down to price, it's down to quality.
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For the quality you two shoot I would say you are both too expensive.

It's not down to price, it's down to quality.
Show me please content your produce...
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sounds cheap to me
but like said already, quality matters though
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but like said already, quality matters though
Tell me please normal price for pics such a quality...





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I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients
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I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients

Charly is just an Asshole, but you will get used to it, nobody listen's to that hypocritical old fuck anyway....
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Charly is just an Asshole, but you will get used to it, nobody listen's to that hypocritical old fuck anyway....
Agreed, but he's the arsehole who shot these.



And.



And.



And when surfers click on a site looking for teens they dont give a shit about how much the shooter kissed your arse to sell them.

Maybe it's because of this that I can afford to be "hypocritical old fuck"

I said what I said because it's true. If they can't stand the heat they should not spam with stupid threads like this. Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see he's asking for answers. I am one of the few to give him one. Srry if it was not what he was looking for.
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MixPhoto, I e-mailed you.
I hope to hear a response soon!
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MixPhoto, I e-mailed you.
I hope to hear a response soon!
Huh, still nothing in my mailbox.
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We charge a lot more then that, but our customers expect video with a story and girls who speak English. If the girl doesn't speak at lease some English, she's of little use to me, no matter how cute.

We're not aiming for quality, which we can shoot, but to fullfil the surfer's fantasy. The best videos come with a story, some dialog and even a plot.
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Agreed, but he's the arsehole who shot these.


And when surfers click on a site looking for teens they dont give a shit about how much the shooter kissed your arse to sell them.

Maybe it's because of this that I can afford to be "hypocritical old fuck"

I said what I said because it's true. If they can't stand the heat they should not spam with stupid threads like this. Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see he's asking for answers. I am one of the few to give him one. Srry if it was not what he was looking for.

Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see what it is about prices, not shooting techniques, quality and stuff.

Thanks also for helping us to be sure in quality of that we produce.
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Wll Charly....don't have any comments to say about u...
U r only bashing other content providers...
I respect your work much but u like a person..-never!
But how ever work is important....this way u r telliong how only u know something u will never get people to love u...and btw i am, still only 19 years old...what do u think what kind of quallity will i produce after 20-30 years of work?Think about that...I am very sorry when i hear stuff like that from anyone but that is what u want to say....your right to say anything,cheers....Just my
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We charge a lot more then that, but our customers expect video with a story and girls who speak English. If the girl doesn't speak at lease some English, she's of little use to me, no matter how cute.

We're not aiming for quality, which we can shoot, but to fullfil the surfer's fantasy. The best videos come with a story, some dialog and even a plot.
For those models which cannot speak english we have professional actors, who anyway will play better even than a pro model. Well, it's our approach to a language problem. Finally we'are aimed to video. However the quality of soundtrack will be higher in this case, than in soundtrak, which recorded during the shooting.

After all, you are very lucky, if you have a lot of native english speaking models =) And also the most part of jerks are native english speakers also. So you should be happy about it, dude =)
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Show me please content your produce...
What you produce and what he produces, you wouldn't be fit to lick his boots :P charly may have a big mouth, but he shoots magazine-quality stuff. Yours I could shoot with $50, a point and shoot and a hooker in a back room :P
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I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients


Paul Markham is so fucking harsh. He really thinks is the best photographer in the world.

Well I 've got news for you Charly, you are just a poor little kid ( In your head ) trying to bash other to feel yourself above them.

It is really sad to see an old man like you behaving like this.

I have got other news for you, Mixphoto is doing excellent quality job for much cheaper than you do.

Sad, isn't it ?
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Paul Markham is so fucking harsh. He really thinks is the best photographer in the world.

Well I 've got news for you Charly, you are just a poor little kid ( In your head ) trying to bash other to feel yourself above them.

It is really sad to see an old man like you behaving like this.

I have got other news for you, Mixphoto is doing excellent quality job for much cheaper than you do.

Sad, isn't it ?
Paul's an asshole. Yep.. I've told him that to his face, and he knows what I think. But excuse me if I laugh my ass off when you compare Paul's quality to mixphotos. Sure, Mixphoto's stuff isn't bad, but to even remotely suggest it's of the same or even close to the same quality of what Paul shoots is beyond ridiculous. Paul is an asshole, but he shoots magazine quality pro content. Mixphoto shoots what anyone could shoot with a few girls and a decent camera. Hell, it doesn't even look like he uses lighting.

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Paul's an asshole. Yep.. I've told him that to his face, and he knows what I think. But excuse me if I laugh my ass off when you compare Paul's quality to mixphotos. Sure, Mixphoto's stuff isn't bad, but to even remotely suggest it's of the same or even close to the same quality of what Paul shoots is beyond ridiculous. Paul is an asshole, but he shoots magazine quality pro content. Mixphoto shoots what anyone could shoot with a few girls and a decent camera. Hell, it doesn't even look like he uses lighting.

Get over yourself.


When I compare the content quality he produces and the content quality Mixphoto produces, I reallize that it is not worth to pay Markham the fees is asking for the slight quality difference there is.

If I add Markham's personality above this, I prefer much more doing business with a nice guy like Mixphoto than an asshole like Markham.

Do you understand this ?


Markham is an idiot. Go ahead and lick is ass if you want to, he will still be an idiot.
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When I compare the content qualtiy he produces and the content quality Mixphoto produces, I reallize that it is not worth to pay Markham the fees is asking for the slight quality difference there is.

If I add Markham's personality above this, I prefer much more doing business with a nice guy like Mixphoto than an asshole like Markham.

Do you understand this ?


Markham is an idiot. Go ahead and lick is ass if you want to, he will still be an idiot.
Wow, not sure when calling someone an asshole was construed as licking his ass. I guess it's all about what you're willing to pay for quality. Like I said, Paul is an ass, but he DOES shoot nice stuff. That's not "licking his ass", that is FACT. I'm a pro photographer, been published myself numerous times, so I can make a judgement call.

Mixphoto may be cheaper but his quality can't touch Paul's. That is not anything but bare, straight up fact. I wouldn't charge a little as Mixphoto either were custom content my market. Then again, the quality difference would be just as apparent.

As for Mixphoto being a nice guy, I'm sure he is, but he sure as fuck is spammy. I only just got off his "mailing list" myself not too long ago. Damn grateful about that too.
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And then there's you guys... Damn nice stuff too But you also use the right equipment How are ya Cirrus?
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I can imagine! So, what are you charging for custom content these days?
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Cirrus started stuck his head down and learnt his trade. All respect to him, he's got great work.

To the knockers.
I do not think I'm the best photographer in the world, I don't even quote my profession as a photographer. I'm a pornographer and these is a difference. I don't bash ALL other content providers, only those who do not learn what can be learnt in a few weeks. Why do I only bash content providers? Because pornography is all I know.

MixPhoto you even put up pictures of a girl with scorn or contempt in her eyes. How can you put up pictures like that? The idea is the guy paying to view thinks she's saying "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF"

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Tell me please normal price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)...
May be my price very low?

My new price:

Solo Girl - 100 euro for 100 images or 1 movie (30 min)

Min volume - 3 sets or 3 movies with 1 model
I told him for what he shoots I thinks is expensive. If he only want to hear "SELL TO ME SELL TO ME SELL TO ME" He should word his spam differently.

Finally when he and Lykos were trying to sell to me,, I told them both to come to me with some girls and watch me work. I WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SHOOT.

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I told him for what he shhots I thinks it's expensive. If he only want to hear "SELL TO ME SELL TO ME SELL TO ME" He should word his spam differently.

Finally when he and Lykos were trying to sell to me,, I told them both to come to me with some girls and watch me work. I WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SHOOT.
Well I won't pretend you're not an asshole Paul, but you shoot damn nice content and no amount of attitude problems are going to change that

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I'm not going to take sides... apparently, there's a market for MixPhotos and there's a market for Charlie - you don't need to jump at each other's throats.

What about us? The poor souls who are left without a market? We just post georgeous models in vain hope someone will notice us.
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I'm not going to take sides... apparently, there's a market for MixPhotos and there's a market for Charlie - you don't need to jump at each other's throats.

What about us? The poor souls who are left without a market? We just post georgeous models in vain hope someone will notice us.
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Wow, not sure when calling someone an asshole was construed as licking his ass. I guess it's all about what you're willing to pay for quality. Like I said, Paul is an ass, but he DOES shoot nice stuff. That's not "licking his ass", that is FACT. I'm a pro photographer, been published myself numerous times, so I can make a judgement call.

Mixphoto may be cheaper but his quality can't touch Paul's. That is not anything but bare, straight up fact. I wouldn't charge a little as Mixphoto either were custom content my market. Then again, the quality difference would be just as apparent.

As for Mixphoto being a nice guy, I'm sure he is, but he sure as fuck is spammy. I only just got off his "mailing list" myself not too long ago. Damn grateful about that too.
Show us proof your words!

By the way I'm personally don't shoot porno, i'm into shooting flowers, ants etc.

If everyone here agree what you words are completely truth, I'd like to send my photographers to you to take some lessons.
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we shoot solo like this.Btw it was shooted by guy who taught Mr.Markham how to use lighting system when shooting in higher shutter speed mode few years ago.Right Charly?
Yes you are the top photographer but I think you don't need to talk about those guys this way.Mixphoto piss me off all the time spamming this board but Lykos is a good guy
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Wow... a pissing contest...nice...been a long time since we realy had something going...I bring popcorn and beers...


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Show us proof your words!

By the way I'm personally don't shoot porno, i'm into shooting flowers, ants etc.

If everyone here agree what you words are completely truth, I'd like to send my photographers to you to take some lessons.
Heh those who actually know me know.. but if you want some portfolio stuf for example...

http://www.memoriesbytreasure.com/html/scenic.html

Almost every one of those photos is brokered and/or published through various stock photography agencies, and in various books and periodicals.

I don't want to teach your photographers, pal, you can pay for them to take courses, but the simple fact remains that Paul shoots pro quality and you or your people do not. Are you going to deny that? I'm sure Paul would be pleased to list a full portfolio of magazines where his work has been published. How about you? I don't publish my adult work, only my mainstream. I shoot adult though and I sure as hell can tell when something is shot by a professional, an amateur, or even a pro-amateur.

Know where you're at and know your market. AaronM is a great photographer and he shoots a ton of content that a TON of people use (and not at rock bottom prices, either). Yet he's the first to admit he doesn't shoot pro-level stuff. That's not a BAD thing, it's just fact. Why not ask him yourself. As far as I know he has no interest in shooting it either. He doesn't pretend that he does though, nor is he pretentious enough to claim to or be insulted when someone says he DOESN'T shoot magazine level.

It's about the reality of it. You wanted an honest opinion, Paul gave it. You might not agree with him, but if you wanted everything candy-coated, you should have said so in the first post. From my eyes though, all I saw from the first post is that it was a thinly veiled attempt at trumping up business.. That's not a bad thing either, but don't get all prissy when someone calls you on it :P
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Wow... a pissing contest...nice...been a long time since we realy had something going...I bring popcorn and beers...


YOU are a god among kings, Michael. Your work makes me drool, I love your work, always have, always will, and make absolutely no beef about it.
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I do not think I'm the best photographer in the world, I don't even quote my profession as a photographer. I'm a pornographer and these is a difference. I don't bash ALL other content providers, only those who do not learn what can be learnt in a few weeks. Why do I only bash content providers? Because pornography is all I know.
Taking off those flame and rude words and abuses I understand what it is probably good, what in my company erotic photoes are shooting by photograpgers.

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MixPhoto you even put up pictures of a girl with scorn or contempt in her eyes. How can you put up pictures like that? The idea is the guy paying to view thinks she's saying "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF"
Well, Paul you are an acute man. In the eyes of my moder you have read exactly that i'd like to say to you personally, concerning your last bashes.
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Wow... a pissing contest...nice...been a long time since we realy had something going...I bring popcorn and beers...
Can U beleive it, dude, same mood here =) Just laughting out at this topic with my staff. So beer and popcorn would be useful.
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Can U beleive it, dude, same mood here =) Just laughting out at this topic with my staff. So beer and popcorn would be useful.
What would be really smart is for you to stop being insulted by the facts and actually accept them. Nothing says you can't learn to BE a pro, but don't get offended if nobody calls you one when you aren't one. That's like being pissed off that nobody calls you a police officer when all you've done is take the courses but never passed any tests.

Paul is an ass and he tells it like he sees it. I'm not trying to be a bitch either although I might come off as that. I'm stating facts. You need to face those if you want to stay in business
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Heh those who actually know me know.. but if you want some portfolio stuf for example...

http://www.memoriesbytreasure.com/html/scenic.html

Almost every one of those photos is brokered and/or published through various stock photography agencies, and in various books and periodicals.

I don't want to teach your photographers, pal, you can pay for them to take courses, but the simple fact remains that Paul shoots pro quality and you or your people do not. Are you going to deny that? I'm sure Paul would be pleased to list a full portfolio of magazines where his work has been published. How about you? I don't publish my adult work, only my mainstream. I shoot adult though and I sure as hell can tell when something is shot by a professional, an amateur, or even a pro-amateur.
Well, I thought you were more smart to not to piss into this topic in such manner, so if you did you sould know the following.

I'm always interested in others objective opinion about my products, but your comments kinda drops a shadow on that webmasters and content providers who bought, buying and will by content from me. I will not tell their names, or this topic will become a total GFY war.

And tell me one more thing, please, what is all that landscape/animal photoes in the topic? I've did a mistake here, what can you teach my photographers if all what u can show is that lanscapes.
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Well, I thought you were more smart to not to piss into this topic in such manner, so if you did you sould know the following.

I'm always interested in others objective opinion about my products, but your comments kinda drops a shadow on that webmasters and content providers who bought, buying and will by content from me. I will not tell their names, or this topic will become a total GFY war.

And tell me one more thing, please, what is all that landscape/animal photoes in the topic? I've did a mistake here, what can you teach my photographers if all what u can show is that lanscapes.
I don't see it as war. In fact I'm not sitting here saying YOU SUCK. I'm simply saying you don't shoot magazine quality content. Are you contesting that?

I also NEVER claimed that I could "teach" your photographers either, I do believe I said that I wasn't interested.. you asked for proof that I'm a photographer, the images I showed you are images that I've sold and/or had published in books, magazines, etc.

Maybe a better grasp on the english language and a few lessons in logic would make you realize that a little better. Try READING what I'm saying and UNDERSTANDING it, instead of just spouting off :P

As for getting into a piss, I'm waiting for some photos to scan, and my negative scanner is pissing me off. You are just idle amusement, my dear.
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Finallly someone have a balls to thel that to hgim in face...
How ever again...i respect your work and you make damn good content but your behaving is not good at all Paul...
We all can be friend here but....O whatever i am not going to talk anymore...
Have a nice day all of u here
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Well thank you RRACY for answering essentially. It's quite rare here.
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No problem Do you use flash/strobes when you shoot? It looks like your photos are a little yellow.
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No problem Do you use flash/strobes when you shoot? It looks like your photos are a little yellow.

Yes i'm using them.
Well, I never do color correction (in photoshop e.g.) I think it could be done better by designers of my customers. Anywhere if you interested in try, I can give you an original of this photo I've posted right from the flashcard, so U can try do it there.
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Charly, if you're a man of your word, come down to Sofia and teach my new photographer how to shoot straight. You can shoot our models for less/free. I'm sorry but it makes no sense for me to get on the bus with 10 models and a photographer and come to your place.

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Talk to me after we get back from Thailand. Could be in the market to buy content and come out to see you. But not before the weather in Sofia gets better.

But from what I see I doubt if your guys have a lot to learn. At least you corrected the levels before you posted. Nice picture.

As was Nydahls, yes I remember, and MichaelAncher. Guys who do not insult the words pornographer and photographer.
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