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Brujah · 01-26-2004, 10:07 PM

NetRodent posted some info so I did some checking to see what came up. If the tell is ISPS * SITE vs SITE * ISPS on the billing indicator.

Sponsors that seem ok:
PlatinumBucks, TopBucks, SilverCash, Python, Pornkings, Flashcash, MaxCash
examples:
PAYCOM.NET *WBSITE (pornkings)
PAYCOM.NET *LYDATA (Python)
CCBill.com *Offendale Co (MaxCash)

Sponsors that may not be:
CEN, ARS, WEG
NETMGT *PAYCOM.NET (CEN)
ASKCS.COM *IBILL (ARS)
WEG*Jetchrg.com (WEG)

What does this mean exactly ? If this is an accurate indicator of trouble or anything, what can be done to lower the overall CB ratio ? How much time is given to work in improving this ?

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 10:09 PM

I do not think this is accurate. Also not sure billing descriptors have been changed yet for all offenders.

Brujah · 01-26-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I do not think this is accurate. Also not sure billing descriptors have been changed yet for all offenders.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you don't mind, what about the other questions ? Do you have any ideas on what can be done to help improve this situation at this stage ?

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 10:17 PM

I have asked for an exact copy of the rules several times. Never got a stright up answer. From what I understand, you are on "warning" for 3 months, then you start getting fined, if after 3 more months (total of 6) you are not under 1%, you are done.

Everyone that is over 1% knows why they are over 1%. Buying too many crosses, or deceptive billing in 99% of the cases I bet. It takes months to turn the tide and get under 1%, took us 3 + months to recover from buying cross sells.

Spunky · 01-26-2004, 10:19 PM

Intresting..but speculation

makefuckingmoney · 01-26-2004, 10:22 PM

I dont think that is accurate with the billing descriptors..

I heard a lot of peeps are in trouble with this..

Theo · 01-26-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I have asked for an exact copy of the rules several times. Never got a stright up answer.

fucked up

xxxdesign-net · 01-26-2004, 11:55 PM

is any sponsors here actually over the 1% ?

ElvisManson · 01-26-2004, 11:57 PM

without saying exactly where our percentage is..I can tell you that we are well under the 1% threshold and will remain there.

Dveron · 01-27-2004, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
is any sponsors here actually over the 1% ?

I doubt they would admit it if they were

Brujah · 01-27-2004, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson
without saying exactly where our percentage is..I can tell you that we are well under the 1% threshold and will remain there.

good to hear bro.

hopefully others are in good shape and have plans in motion too.

- Jesus Christ - · 01-27-2004, 12:08 AM

Python rocks.

Donnie Gangsta · 01-27-2004, 12:47 AM

No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Brujah · 01-27-2004, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Donnie, are you using your own merchant account(s) ? Who did you get them through ?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-27-2004, 12:51 AM

1 to 5 dollar programs Brujah is one way.
Another way I think will be to eliminate cross sales.

Yet the faithful Keep a quality site for an affordable price theory is still the strong theory.

psyko514 · 01-27-2004, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Can you get in touch with me on ICQ when you get the chance?
It's 214702014 if you need it.
thanks

JulianSosa · 01-27-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Good advice thanks

Donnie Gangsta · 01-27-2004, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

Donnie, are you using your own merchant account(s) ? Who did you get them through ?

www.credomatic.com is one place..

- AFN - · 01-27-2004, 02:03 AM

good advice atho I dont really think IBILL is having any problems they have a bigger bankroll than any other billing company out there.

WiredGuy · 01-27-2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Have you noticed any sales increases due to less scrubbing?
WG

Donnie Gangsta · 01-27-2004, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Have you noticed any sales increases due to less scrubbing?
WG

Yeah..

Platinum Dave · 01-27-2004, 04:58 PM

Thats some interesting Digging up of information.

Platinum Bucks is definately under 1%

Zprogramz · 01-29-2004, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Who do you use now for processing and customer service?

Z

01-26-2004, 10:07 PM	#1
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Major sponsors on the Visa watch list NetRodent posted some info so I did some checking to see what came up. If the tell is ISPS * SITE vs SITE * ISPS on the billing indicator. Sponsors that seem ok: PlatinumBucks, TopBucks, SilverCash, Python, Pornkings, Flashcash, MaxCash examples: PAYCOM.NET WBSITE (pornkings) PAYCOM.NET LYDATA (Python) CCBill.com Offendale Co (MaxCash) Sponsors that may not be: CEN, ARS, WEG NETMGT PAYCOM.NET (CEN) ASKCS.COM IBILL (ARS) WEGJetchrg.com (WEG) What does this mean exactly ? If this is an accurate indicator of trouble or anything, what can be done to lower the overall CB ratio ? How much time is given to work in improving this ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-26-2004, 10:09 PM	#2
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I do not think this is accurate. Also not sure billing descriptors have been changed yet for all offenders. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 10:17 PM	#4
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I have asked for an exact copy of the rules several times. Never got a stright up answer. From what I understand, you are on "warning" for 3 months, then you start getting fined, if after 3 more months (total of 6) you are not under 1%, you are done. Everyone that is over 1% knows why they are over 1%. Buying too many crosses, or deceptive billing in 99% of the cases I bet. It takes months to turn the tide and get under 1%, took us 3 + months to recover from buying cross sells. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 10:19 PM	#5
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01-27-2004, 12:08 AM	#12
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01-26-2004, 10:22 PM	#6
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	I dont think that is accurate with the billing descriptors.. I heard a lot of peeps are in trouble with this..

01-26-2004, 11:55 PM	#8
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	is any sponsors here actually over the 1% ?

01-26-2004, 11:57 PM	#9
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	without saying exactly where our percentage is..I can tell you that we are well under the 1% threshold and will remain there.

01-27-2004, 12:47 AM	#13
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%. I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'? I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

01-27-2004, 12:51 AM	#15
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01-27-2004, 02:03 AM	#19
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01-27-2004, 04:58 PM	#22
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