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Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

You got allot of rules you have not played by GFY and non GFY related ill make sure the term shut down is used in all of them.

Let's get something straight here hotshot. I am the enforcer here. You are the fucking participant. You wanna be a bigshot, fine.... be a bigshot. I don't care what you do to impress the masses. You know we've never crossed paths before. But when I need to enforce, and it happens to be you, THEN you wanna bitch that the shit don't apply to you.

well talk to the fucking hand. Should've thought about that before getting all high and mighty.

ControlThy · 01-25-2004, 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Let's get something straight here hotshot. I am the enforcer here. You are the fucking participant. You wanna be a bigshot, fine.... be a bigshot.

He seems to be a customer as well?

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Let's get something straight here hotshot. I am the enforcer here. You are the fucking participant. You wanna be a bigshot, fine.... be a bigshot. I don't care what you do to impress the masses. You know we've never crossed paths before. But when I need to enforce, and it happens to be you, THEN you wanna bitch that the shit don't apply to you.

well talk to the fucking hand. Should've thought about that before getting all high and mighty.

Listen you fucked up, and i'll make sure you know that you did.

There was no reason to do what you did.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy

He seems to be a customer as well?

yes. Which is why he's still posting.

And as I've said ten times now, if he'd simply said he was buying the nick for an employee (like he claims) instead of slinging shit in my face, none of this would be taking place right now.

But then, EscortBiz is big and bad, and needs to show it to the world. Something as simple as a 6 word explaination is BEYOND such royalty like Escort. Instead he gets his way through taunts and threats.

yeah.... I go back to: Eat a cock Escort.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Listen you fucked up, and i'll make sure you know that you did.

There was no reason to do what you did.

I gave you the reason.

You snubbed your nose at it, and threw it back at me in the form of a challenge.

you got that nick banned.

Deal with it.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:05 AM

Escort, you might try, just once in your fucking life, NOT being a pompous COCK.

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

yes. Which is why he's still posting.

And as I've said ten times now, if he'd simply said he was buying the nick for an employee (like he claims) instead of slinging shit in my face, none of this would be taking place right now.

But then, EscortBiz is big and bad, and needs to show it to the world. Something as simple as a 6 word explaination is BEYOND such royalty like Escort. Instead he gets his way through taunts and threats.

yeah.... I go back to: Eat a cock Escort.

Its a promise wannabe, you have more problems then I thought you had.

pushpills · 01-25-2004, 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I am the enforcer

mrthumbs · 01-25-2004, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills

<img border="0" src="http://www.nospank.net/enforcer.jpg" width="580" height="1012">

HAHAHAHAHHAHA brilliant

TheDoc · 01-25-2004, 04:10 AM

Think the kid in the ad gets beat up in school often?

pushpills · 01-25-2004, 04:12 AM

but seriously amp, don't ban me I was joking

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Its a promise wannabe, you have more problems then I thought you had.

ok, in the spirit of being more "professional" (that everyone is demanding), I'll do this for you:

EscortBiz, oh.... you rock, you're so awesome, someday I wanna BE you.... if only I could actually like, touch you once.... like, I mean your actual, you know, skin.... that would be so awesome....

there. feel better?

boardersweetie · 01-25-2004, 04:29 AM

I don't know either of these guys but, I don't know why everyone is standing up for Escort in this. Amp clearly tried to be professional, but instead of being chill and explaining the situation Escort had to challenge him not once, but twice... to make himself look like some hotshot. And now he's running around telling Amp he fucked up? Please. If Escort had been civil in the first place he'd still have both nicks...

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:30 AM

why can't you just admit it Escort? Is it THAT hard for you to do that? You opened your big fucking mouth when you should have been using your brain and a little diplomacy. And you got called on it.

Well sorry. The boss never handed me the memo that says "EscortBiz is to be treated with kid gloves".

and you know damn well it wasn't any kind of personal grudge. I don't even fucking know you. (nor do I care to).

Your fucking ego got hurt and you're pissed off. Just admit it. Trust me, you'll feel alot better if you do.

I know, I'm not leaving much room for you to save face in all of this, but ya know, sometimes we just gotta lose the face. The whole fucking board knows I've lost it more than once.

I will not ever bend to you. And you should know that if nothing else. I am well within my limits of doing what I need to do here. So you can threaten til you turn blue in the face.

Don't much matta to me.

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by boardersweetie
I don't know either of these guys but, I don't know why everyone is standing up for Escort in this. Amp clearly tried to be professional, but instead of being chill and explaining the situation Escort had to challenge him not once, but twice... to make himself look like some hotshot. And now he's running around telling Amp he fucked up? Please. If Escort had been civil in the first place he'd still have both nicks...

Did you read the thread that started this all?

I purchaed the nick before amp posted that noone should buy it, there was no intent to hide who purchased the nick it was made very clear.

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
why can't you just admit it Escort? Is it THAT hard for you to do that? You opened your big fucking mouth when you should have been using your brain and a little diplomacy. And you got called on it.

Well sorry. The boss never handed me the memo that says "EscortBiz is to be treated with kid gloves".

and you know damn well it wasn't any kind of personal grudge. I don't even fucking know you. (nor do I care to).

Your fucking ego got hurt and you're pissed off. Just admit it. Trust me, you'll feel alot better if you do.

I know, I'm not leaving much room for you to save face in all of this, but ya know, sometimes we just gotta lose the face. The whole fucking board knows I've lost it more than once.

I will not ever bend to you. And you should know that if nothing else. I am well within my limits of doing what I need to do here. So you can threaten til you turn blue in the face.

Don't much matta to me.

I dont turn blue, you turn red.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

I dont turn blue, you turn red.

keep thinking that.

JamesK · 01-25-2004, 04:40 AM

Wanna buy my account?

boardersweetie · 01-25-2004, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Did you read the thread that started this all?

I purchaed the nick before amp posted that noone should buy it, there was no intent to hide who purchased the nick it was made very clear.

I sorta see your point there, but Amp still had a point about how it violates rules. My only complaint is that instead of explaining yourself, you had to talk shit and make threats. It's as though you were looking for a fight.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:42 AM

Escort, when you send that email off to Lens whining like a fucking bitch about how the "bad Amp man banned my nick!", be sure to include the part where you decided to be a cock and say "Ban it, try me".

Because Lens will be coming to me asking questions, and I guarantee you that the first place I'm going to point him. Let's keep it honest BigHead.

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by boardersweetie

I sorta see your point there, but Amp still had a point about how it violates rules. My only complaint is that instead of explaining yourself, you had to talk shit and make threats. It's as though you were looking for a fight.

Nah anyone here knows I wont hurt anyone by buying that nick.

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Escort, when you send that email off to Lens whining like a fucking bitch about how the "bad Amp man banned my nick!", be sure to include the part where you decided to be a cock and say "Ban it, try me".

Because Lens will be coming to me asking questions, and I guarantee you that the first place I'm going to point him. Let's keep it honest BigHead.

So what I said ban it try it, ill say it again ban this nick try it, it doesnt matter what you do I am determind to open a cam of worms that you thought long vanished.

I never lose a fight and will take anyone on at anytime especially a poor drunk fucker like you with a rap sheet from here to chicago.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

So what I said ban it try it, ill say it again ban this nick try it, it doesnt matter what you do I am determind to open a cam of worms that you thought long vanished.

I never lose a fight and will take anyone on at anytime especially a poor drunk fucker like you with a rap sheet from here to chicago.

oh now I have a "rap sheet" too?

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:53 AM

please enlighten me Einstein, what exactly is on my "rap sheet"?

p1mpdogg · 01-25-2004, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

oh now I have a "rap sheet" too?

I heard you beat animals

EscortBiz · 01-25-2004, 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
please enlighten me Einstein, what exactly is on my "rap sheet"?

You are fucked sums it up.

I wont let go regardless who begs and in what state of mind.

Out in the streets fucker, good thing you know how to eat from trees and shit in the woods.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

You are fucked sums it up.

I wont let go regardless who begs and in what state of mind.

Out in the streets fucker, good thing you know how to eat from trees and shit in the woods.

yep, good thing.

TheDoc · 01-25-2004, 05:02 AM

Testosterone levels at 98%

TurboAngel · 01-25-2004, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

5. Multiple personalities are not allowed. If you have multiple personalities we will find out about you and we will shut down all your accounts. Also if you post under someone else's account and do it to break the rules, or they break the rules and we tie you to them. We will ban you and them. This is just like carrying someone else's bags at the airport. Don't do it.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html

OK, why is Owen, Disco_Stu,Im A Troll and Videovoyeur still here?
They are all the same person - Dave Stodghill, and he has riped people off.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by TurboAngel

OK, why is Owen, Disco_Stu,Im A Troll and Videovoyeur still here?
They are all the same person - Dave Stodghill, and he has riped people off.

I didn't walk into that conversation, I don't know it for fact, and I haven't had time to research it.

Escort's was a different story. I walked in on it, he flagrantly threw it in my face, and now feels he's owed something for being a penishead.

[Brian] · 01-25-2004, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by TurboAngel

OK, why is Owen, Disco_Stu,Im A Troll and Videovoyeur still here?
They are all the same person - Dave Stodghill, and he has riped people off.

The GFY rules are enforced fairly sporadically.

Especially for a board that is highly profitable for it's owners.

But it's still fun

TheDoc · 01-25-2004, 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by TurboAngel

OK, why is Owen, Disco_Stu,Im A Troll and Videovoyeur still here?
They are all the same person - Dave Stodghill, and he has riped people off.

It's a contest about cock size, not about the tons of other fake names, cons, and bs spammers that post here every day.

TurboAngel · 01-25-2004, 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I didn't walk into that conversation, I don't know it for fact, and I haven't had time to research it.

Escort's was a different story. I walked in on it, he flagrantly threw it in my face, and now feels he's owed something for being a penishead.

Well if you could look into it, won't take long and get rid of him that would be great!

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:14 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc

It's a contest about cock size, not about the tons of other fake names, cons, and bs spammers that post here every day.

it's really not. I know no one will believe that, but on this end of things, it's really not.

It's very simple over here. I stumbled into that thread where the dude was auctioning his nick. I felt it was a bad fucking idea, and I said anyone buying the nick is a fool because it'll be banned. Nick selling is probably not something we need going on here.

Escort bought it and decided he was above that. Challenged me to ban the nick.

I banned it. Simple. Cut & dried. No cock size involved.

But then..... then the shit slinging began, because Escort is driven mad by the very idea that someone might do something not in his/her/it's favor.

and that's where the cock size began to play out. Although for me.... I'm just killing time here. I have no doubt in my mind that Escort takes it all very deeply to heart.

chodadog · 01-25-2004, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
but of course no one is going to say a fucking word to the almighty EscortBiz about starting a thread ridiculing me, are they.

Because you deserve ridicule.

EB: Think of the possible exposure for Tushy Cash if you pulled your GFY advertising, announcing it in a thread and blaming Amp. Ohhh the drama. And what beautiful exposure that would be.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog

Because you deserve ridicule.

and why is that choda? Enlighten me.

JamesK · 01-25-2004, 05:18 AM

FIGHTERS PICK YOUR WEAPONS NOW!

JamesK · 01-25-2004, 05:19 AM

<img src="http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9903/31/russia.kosovo.02/story.fight.jpg" height="400">

FIGHT

420 · 01-25-2004, 05:21 AM

Good job changing the thread title

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:22 AM

please explain it to me choda.....

I have never ripped anyone off.
I've always done exactly what I was hired to do in every situation, above and beyond.
Yes, I can be a dick on the board, but it's usually in general fun, unless provoked by some dipshit. But then can anyone else claim any different?
I've banned a few people, well, ya know, that sometimes something a moderator ends up doing. Goes with the territory.

Aside from that, (which all seems very much normal to me, if not commendable in this industry), what exactly is it that deserves me of ridicule?

Because YOU don't like me?

Guess what..... NO ONE FUCKING CARES IF YOU LIKE ME. ESPECIALLY NOT ME.

TheDoc · 01-25-2004, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

it's really not. I know no one will believe that, but on this end of things, it's really not.

It's very simple over here. I stumbled into that thread where the dude was auctioning his nick. I felt it was a bad fucking idea, and I said anyone buying the nick is a fool because it'll be banned. Nick selling is probably not something we need going on here.

Escort bought it and decided he was above that. Challenged me to ban the nick.

I banned it. Simple. Cut & dried. No cock size involved.

But then..... then the shit slinging began, because Escort is driven mad by the very idea that someone might do something not in his/her/it's favor.

and that's where the cock size began to play out. Although for me.... I'm just killing time here. I have no doubt in my mind that Escort takes it all very deeply to heart.

Amp, step back and take a look at the thread again from outside the box.

EB seemed to be playing around, doing what GFY is all about.... He did post that it was his nick and him posting him posting on that nick, even though you may not know who he was. No reason to call BS double nick stuff, even you have 2, bone has 2, hell most anyone with a post count has at least 2 different nicks.

Anyway, when you banned the nick I think he did what anyone else would have done and called you out.

Now that it's dragging on and on.. and on.. and on it has become a big dick contest.. Either way you both think you are right, half the people agree with you and the other half with EB..

Both of ya, honestly.. Sounding like a couple of schoolgirls bitching about your dollies, but please continue it's entertaining ;)

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by 420
Good job changing the thread title

it's my thread, I'll change it to whatever the fuck I want.

chodadog · 01-25-2004, 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
please explain it to me choda.....

I have never ripped anyone off.
I've always done exactly what I was hired to do in every situation, above and beyond.
Yes, I can be a dick on the board, but it's usually in general fun, unless provoked by some dipshit. But then can anyone else claim any different?
I've banned a few people, well, ya know, that sometimes something a moderator ends up doing. Goes with the territory.

Aside from that, (which all seems very much normal to me, if not commendable in this industry), what exactly is it that deserves me of ridicule?

Because YOU don't like me?

Guess what..... <font size=+4>NO ONE FUCKING CARES IF YOU LIKE ME. ESPECIALLY NOT ME. </font>

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc
Anyway, when you banned the nick I think he did what anyone else would have done and called you out.

he called me out by daring me to ban it, like he's got some sort of fucking VIP status that I'm not privy to. This shit never needed to happen AT ALL. If he had simply said it was for someone else, instead of going the big cock route, none of this conversation would exist right now.

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog

so I guess that means I was right all along when I said you're a baseless basher. You have no justification for the things you say, you simply hate because that's what you do.

Good to know that I can discount and ignore everything you post from here on.

[Brian] · 01-25-2004, 05:33 AM

Amp is the only cat I've seen that can keep an argument going an hour after the other guy has quit replying

His beefs always seem to be forgotten the next day though, for the most part ... except for the ongoing Amp/Brad Shaw thing

chodadog · 01-25-2004, 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

so I guess that means I was right all along when I said you're a baseless basher. You have no justification for the things you say, you simply hate because that's what you do.

Good to know that I can discount and ignore everything you post from here on.

You emit a foul and unpleasant odour.

TheDoc · 01-25-2004, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

he called me out by daring me to ban it, like he's got some sort of fucking VIP status that I'm not privy to. This shit never needed to happen AT ALL. If he had simply said it was for someone else, instead of going the big cock route, none of this conversation would exist right now.

I looked at the thread again, you called him out first. He quoted you. "therefore, the nick being sold, if it has been sold, better not ever post, or it'll be banned."

His comment back, I took as a teasing joke to you.. I don't think he thought you would get so mad over it.

A few posts up you can tell it's him, you know he is an advertiser and has a good rep for not doing overly stupid shit. Even I know that. I don't have anything to do with him or his company or adult.com

I think he shouldn't have been playing games like he was and I don't think you should have taken it so seriously either. It's not like it was one of your major problem causing people.

You both jumped the gun.

Trax · 01-25-2004, 05:40 AM

interesting read

Amputate Your Head · 01-25-2004, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc

His comment back, I took as a teasing joke to you.. I don't think he thought you would get so mad over it.

and right there is the common misconception.

I didn't get mad over it. Not in the least. I stated my intentions, he decided to go against that, and I acted on it. No emotion was involved on my part.

Only after he got hostile about it did I decide to embark on the silliness.

Like I said in that thread, I'm not playing anymore. If I say something, I expect it to be taken seriously. Escort found that out the hard way.

But was I mad? Of course not. I'm still not mad. It's all in a days work.

01-25-2004, 04:05 AM	#56
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Escort, you might try, just once in your fucking life, NOT being a pompous COCK. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

01-25-2004, 04:10 AM	#60
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01-25-2004, 04:30 AM	#64
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	why can't you just admit it Escort? Is it THAT hard for you to do that? You opened your big fucking mouth when you should have been using your brain and a little diplomacy. And you got called on it. Well sorry. The boss never handed me the memo that says "EscortBiz is to be treated with kid gloves". and you know damn well it wasn't any kind of personal grudge. I don't even fucking know you. (nor do I care to). Your fucking ego got hurt and you're pissed off. Just admit it. Trust me, you'll feel alot better if you do. I know, I'm not leaving much room for you to save face in all of this, but ya know, sometimes we just gotta lose the face. The whole fucking board knows I've lost it more than once. I will not ever bend to you. And you should know that if nothing else. I am well within my limits of doing what I need to do here. So you can threaten til you turn blue in the face. Don't much matta to me. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

01-25-2004, 04:40 AM	#68
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	Wanna buy my account? __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

01-25-2004, 04:42 AM	#70
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Escort, when you send that email off to Lens whining like a fucking bitch about how the "bad Amp man banned my nick!", be sure to include the part where you decided to be a cock and say "Ban it, try me". Because Lens will be coming to me asking questions, and I guarantee you that the first place I'm going to point him. Let's keep it honest BigHead. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

01-25-2004, 04:12 AM	#61
pushpills Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 3,700	but seriously amp, don't ban me I was joking

01-25-2004, 04:29 AM	#63
boardersweetie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, ICQ 301-613-472 Posts: 1,889	I don't know either of these guys but, I don't know why everyone is standing up for Escort in this. Amp clearly tried to be professional, but instead of being chill and explaining the situation Escort had to challenge him not once, but twice... to make himself look like some hotshot. And now he's running around telling Amp he fucked up? Please. If Escort had been civil in the first place he'd still have both nicks...

01-25-2004, 04:53 AM	#74
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	please enlighten me Einstein, what exactly is on my "rap sheet"? __________________ SIG TOO BIG

01-25-2004, 05:02 AM	#78
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01-25-2004, 05:18 AM	#87
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01-25-2004, 05:19 AM	#88
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01-25-2004, 05:21 AM	#89
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01-25-2004, 05:22 AM	#90
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	please explain it to me choda..... I have never ripped anyone off. I've always done exactly what I was hired to do in every situation, above and beyond. Yes, I can be a dick on the board, but it's usually in general fun, unless provoked by some dipshit. But then can anyone else claim any different? I've banned a few people, well, ya know, that sometimes something a moderator ends up doing. Goes with the territory. Aside from that, (which all seems very much normal to me, if not commendable in this industry), what exactly is it that deserves me of ridicule? Because YOU don't like me? Guess what..... NO ONE FUCKING CARES IF YOU LIKE ME. ESPECIALLY NOT ME. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

01-25-2004, 05:33 AM	#96
[Brian] Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,523	Amp is the only cat I've seen that can keep an argument going an hour after the other guy has quit replying His beefs always seem to be forgotten the next day though, for the most part ... except for the ongoing Amp/Brad Shaw thing __________________ HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program ICQ: 391113064

01-25-2004, 05:40 AM	#99
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	interesting read