haha yeah and blow a shitload of coke, you'll be fine

just don't eat before you blow a shitload of coke

you'll calm right down, just remember to add tons of cappachino

When you use a computer day by day for hours removed from exiting in normal reality and conversating with alert karma and quick thinking, with less acceptance for personal feelings and emotions you easily let in alone on a computer... After lots of computer use, deep into getting things done in front of your face digitally definately can cause anxiety I think...

All I can recommend to Jesus Christ? is chill out and be more careless, Don't take life too serious just do what you need to do

and don't take acid if you're anxious

[drunk knowledge]

i hear ya, sounds like youve just learned to manage it, i gotta give you credit for that, anyone who has true panic disorder knows its not easy ... ive tried at times to stop the med(s) but couldnt talk myself out of the attacks. ive had this 14 years, i know im healthy as a horse (just had regular physical this week) ... but - it just makes no sense. you know.

i think i may end up where you are at eventually, everyone is a little different and has their own experience. Its good to hear that youve got it under control, and honestly, sometimes just having the bottle of xanax there helps, because you know you can chill out if you start bugging.

I look forward to being where you are at with it ;)

Think about how cigarettes work Mikey...

People smoke them to relax or relieve stress... but if they try to quit them what happens? The complete and extreme opposite.

Some people even believe that they can't live without smoking. They can not function without smoking etc.

In many cases with these 'mind drugs' the withdrawls from trying to quit them can be much worse than anything you were trying to prevent in the first place.

If Paxil works for you - great.

But now you are convinced and scared into believing that you can not function without Paxil.

But of course... within a few years there will be some new company with some new drug & some new drug pushing girls, and all of a sudden your doctor will be saying "Mikey, I'd like you to give Scamazone 10mg a try... we're starting to give it to everyone who is currently taking Paxil and seeing great results!"

It's all about the recurring billing and cross sells. :winkwink:

I'm just saying don't tell yourself you can't live without paxil or whatever other drug - because if you tell yourself that, ESPECIALLY if you are prone to anxiety attacks (because you probably have an over active mind) - then you will believe it when it might not be true.


If you haven't read that book I suggested up there.. you might give it a try.

When I first had my panic attacks, "anxiety" and "panic attacks" were still new... the drug companies hadn't had a chance to fully develop the market for the treatments yet...

So I had to solve the problem on my own, by reading and making changes to my lifestyle.

But I swear that book helped me a lot.

chill out, do some daily exercises,think about something positive and smoke some weed :)..also music is good. :)

GREAT analogy there Eros!

That's exactly it. :thumbsup

At first you learn to recognize the signs panic attack is coming on and instead of feeding your body with more adrenaline by being afraid of the panic attack itself, you just take it as a cue to go get some air, drink some water or whatever you need to do.

Each time you do that successfully - you'll get a little stronger... to the point where having a panic attack is a very rare occurrance.

The most important thing is to realize you're not going to die. Not today anyway, not because of the panic attack.

So why escalate the would-be panic attack because you think its about to kill you when its not?

i appreciate your input gobigtime :)

im not telling myself that i cant live without these meds, i know all about how the drug companies work, its all about maintaining, rebilling, and not curing shit.

i look forward to not depending on meds, and i have tried to ween off them in the past ...but when that panic came rearing back, scaring the fuck out of ya, ... its easier to take the pill.

I will always try to ween off this stuff, but for now, (might have missed it in the thread) im trying to get off the xanax. When i got into this biz, sitting on my ass, gaining weight, working 18 hours a day, took a turn for the worse and had to add xanax to the lineup. Now im limiting my online work and giving it to others to do and im just managing it. when im filming i have no probs at all .. being active is definitely an antidote to anxiety.

so first step is to get off the xanax, then, i can think later on about lowering the dosage of paxil or effexor which my doctor is now recommending.

Id love to be off the meds, but if the panic recurs when i am eating right, excercising daily, off the xanax, ill continue to take ssri's or snri's. Even though pharmaceutical companies are scum, these meds have allowed me to function whereas otherwise i was hanging out in the closet thinking the sky was falling :)

Weed gives me panic attacks.

For some I guess it helps them.. for me its baaaaaad.

But that's like what I was saying to Mikey -- I'm telling myself, convincing myself, that weed will give me a panic attack.

So if I were to smoke a little weed, then all of a sudden I am going to be on the lookout for changes to my state of mind & consider any changes a possible massive panic attack on the way....

well of course weed will change your state of mind.... thats why people smoke it.

So that's a bit of a catch 22 there.

yes, I have some friend who had once smoked weed and then he felt that he dies ;(...So exactly , there is some danger on using psychedelics, when you suffer on some various mental problems ...But if you have good mood or good samo-control and if u have experience in using them, there shouldn't be so bad, although there si laways some chance for bad trip :(. :)

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Yeah I hear you about the withdrawls... I almost think they are engineered to bring on, or threaten, a massive panic attack when you try to quit. To scare you into staying on them.

Despite what some people say, a lot of people here on GFY are very intelligent, creative people - with very active minds.

This can sometimes be a double edge sword - it's not good if you turn it on yourself.

Anyway if you do ever plan to get off the drugs... don't do it cold turkey. Do it with some help and understanding - read that book, and maybe a couple others if you want.

The knowledge you gain from them will act as hand-holders for when you decide you want to try to ween yourself from the drugs.

And whatever you do, when you quit them...if at all possible - don't expect a panic attack come one or constantly be looking for it.... because we usually find things we're looking for.

I BLOW COKE
I SMOKE WEED
I DRINK ALCOHOL
I USE RX MEDICATION

I alter my brain more than 95% of you

Never had a Withdrawel once

just one time I had a near fatal heart attack from mixing adderall with coke, Don't ever do that, Thanks

Jesus, if ya wanna talk seriously about it, I have had PAD since 1993, i added you to my icq.
I have been on paxil, can give you some nice advice.
Nik

$400 a month....is that true? wouldn't chain-smoking be cheaper?

Never forget to take paxil. :( I feel very dizzy when I do, they got me for life too. So far spent thousands on paxil over the past few years.

Stress and depression started mine. Was on drugs for a short time, Zoloft and Xanax about 12 years ago. Didnt stay on drugs long and stopped haveing them 4 or 5 years ago. Learned how not let them impact me, which lessened the symptoms which made it easer to think them through. Now I get a small flutter in the chest, but thats the limit. Much better then trips to the hospital

I used to get them occasionally and found that having a long shower really works. Seems like the water drops hitting all over the body takes your mind off the attack. Orange juice or anything with potassium really helps too. :)