Paypal Vs. Epassporte - GoFuckYourself.com

dougeetx · 01-23-2004, 08:53 AM

What's this new fixation with Epassporte? I don't understand. What can they do that Paypal doesn't. They don't even have re-occurring billing. They both offer debit cards. I really don't understand. Help a brotha out! Thanks!

polish_aristocrat · 01-23-2004, 08:54 AM

Paypal doesn't process for adult.

jimthefiend · 01-23-2004, 08:54 AM

uhhhhh epassporte allows adult business?

brizzad · 01-23-2004, 08:55 AM

don't even use paypal for mainstream sites.. fuck paypal..

www.fuckpaypal.com
www.paypalsucks.com

dougeetx · 01-23-2004, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Paypal doesn't process for adult.

I get payments from Sex.com sent to my paypal account. Do you think they would shut me down for recieving payments from them? Hmmm...maybe I should change my payment method to check from paypal. Doesn't Silvercash use them, too??

Smokey The Bear · 01-23-2004, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
I really don't understand. Help a brotha out! Thanks!

Paypal is a bunch of thieving cocksucking bastards.

And

Epassporte is a well put together team of highly motivated individuals.

Thats the biggest difference.

DarkJedi · 01-23-2004, 08:59 AM

paypal doesnt allow a lot of countries.

so i use Epass instead and really happy with it.
plus a lot of sponsors do instant payout to epass - as soon as you make a sale. i like it.

dougeetx · 01-23-2004, 09:02 AM

Can someone list some sponsors that use epassporte???

Smokey The Bear · 01-23-2004, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
Can someone list some sponsors that use epassporte???

flashcash gammacash i think boobiebucks too , theres a few others.

polish_aristocrat · 01-23-2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx

I get payments from Sex.com sent to my paypal account. Do you think they would shut me down for recieving payments from them? Hmmm...maybe I should change my payment method to check from paypal. Doesn't Silvercash use them, too??

not sure about this, the main factor is that you cannot buy membership to an adult site or buy adult products using paypal

polish_aristocrat · 01-23-2004, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
Can someone list some sponsors that use epassporte???

ARS

Platinum Doug · 01-23-2004, 09:35 AM

PLATINUM BUCKS uses both . . .

Trax · 01-23-2004, 09:54 AM

epp is cheaper than pp

ChewbaCreative · 01-23-2004, 10:15 AM

paypal era is over?

ModelPerfect · 01-23-2004, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx

I get payments from Sex.com sent to my paypal account. Do you think they would shut me down for recieving payments from them? Hmmm...maybe I should change my payment method to check from paypal. Doesn't Silvercash use them, too??

Yup. But until you decide what to do, have your Paypal account regularly emptied into your bank account. It doesn't cost anything, and they can't get access to it. I never keep more than a couple hundred in Paypal...

dougeetx · 01-23-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by ModelPerfect

Yup. But until you decide what to do, have your Paypal account regularly emptied into your bank account. It doesn't cost anything, and they can't get access to it. I never keep more than a couple hundred in Paypal...

Dang! That's jacked up! So, if I promote a sponsor that uses epp, is there still a setup fee?

Kimmykim · 01-23-2004, 10:56 AM

Here's how the breakdown goes --

There is a $5 charge to create an account. This charge is money that goes to Visa for royalties on the card number -- since EVERY eP account comes standard with a Virtual Visa/CVV2 that can be used online for purchases. In order to activate this number, Visa gets their money up front. Some sponsors will pay this fee for you, some don't. I do not know how each sponsor is set up fyi. If you already have an account your new sponsors that are paying you via eP would use your existing account and there is no charge for that.

When you receive payment into eP account, there is a $2 charge for that. Once again some sponsors pay it, some do it like a check writing or wire fee and make the affiliate pay it. Once again I don't know who is doing what since there are many sponsors set up to pay via ePassporte and my memory isn't that good lol ;)

Your eP account also functions similarly to Paypal in that you can transfer money between users. On a personal account the charge to transfer is .25, regardless of the amount of the transaction. If you use your eP account to purchase something at an ePassporte merchant, any fees are charged to the merchant.

If you like you can get a Visa Electron card tied to your account. It takes approximately 10 business days for this to reach you once you order it -- and yes, you have to order it and there is a fee of $35 to get it -- once again, Visa is going to get their cut every time the logo or brand name is used before the first transaction occurs... it's their way of making money. Once you have the Electron card you can withdraw money and use the card at qualified POP terminals worldwide. The only two countries that are excluded are Iran and Iraq.

The biggest benefit to you as a reseller in getting paid via ePassporte is that your money comes to you immediately, you aren't waiting on checks, if you are non-US your bank isn't charging you to cash a check when you finally get it, and you can spend the money however you like, or take it out in cash with the Electron card. If you want the money wired into your bank, we will do that, but wire fees do occur and they will vary depending on your bank. For instance Bank of America charges me $10 to receive domestic wires and $30 to receive international wires. Once again the banks are getting their cut...

Hopefully this will help you dougee

If not ask more questions and I'll be happy to answer.

NaughtyJenn · 01-23-2004, 10:57 AM

is there a way i can contact you via icq ?

Kimmykim · 01-23-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
is there a way i can contact you via icq ?

me?

101 69 619

NaughtyJenn · 01-23-2004, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

me?

101 69 619

thanks

and yes u :P added :P

candyflip · 01-23-2004, 11:02 AM

See sig.

thepornoguy · 01-25-2004, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
See sig.

Yahoo accepts Adult Sites?

thepornoguy · 01-25-2004, 04:27 AM

Actually iKobo is the shiite!

They allow you to send money to 170 countries.

The receiver does not even need a computer.

iKobo sends the recipient a Plus ATM card in the Snail Mail and the funds are available in a millions of ATM machines world wide.

Plus their affiliate program pays a percentage of the transaction fees paid by users you refer

It is free to set-up an account and they give you $10 bucks for everyone you refer who actually sends someone money.

http://www.ikobo.com/ref.cgi?r=EF426333MX

Oh yeah they are based in the USA for all you pansies who think only the USA has trustworthy businesses!

iKobo the new PayPal for adult webmasters and the rest of you too!

flashfire · 01-25-2004, 04:36 AM

I payed for sex.com traffic with paypal...I think you still can, I wouldnt know because the traffic sux and I wont buy again

Michael O · 01-25-2004, 05:06 AM

Epassporte rocks for quick payouts

Good to see more and more sponsors are using it

Latest two I found

SexPicturesPass <-------- First AVS program to offer payouts via Epassporte

Silvercash Can´t go wrong with these guys

And of cause the rest are in my sig ;)

AphEX · 01-25-2004, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
Can someone list some sponsors that use epassporte???

neXpectation pay via epassporte

liquidmoe · 01-25-2004, 05:48 AM

Are there any other charges besides the $2 for receving funds? Like a % of the total transaction?

Michael O · 01-25-2004, 07:21 AM

The sponsors I use all take $2 from your payout and thats all.

Then its. $.25 to transfer your funds to another epassporte account or $2 to withdraw it from ATM.
$5 a year for the virtual account and $35 for the card.

Thats about it for fees no %

rebel23 · 01-25-2004, 07:32 AM

pornoguy, what are their fee's then?
you got a breakdown for us... ?

thepornoguy · 01-25-2004, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rebel23
pornoguy, what are their fee's then?
you got a breakdown for us... ?

here is the commisson rate for referals

Our current promotional campaign offers up to 50% of our fees collected on all iKobo transactions. Your commissions are deposited in your iKobo balance the same day that the transaction happens. Each time that someone sends money or makes a purchase from an iKobo merchant, you are paid a percentage commission.

Compensation
Level Commission

1 5%
2 5%
3 5%
4 5%
5 5%
6 5%
7 5%
8 5%
9 5%
10 5%
Total : 50%

Merchant fees are

The pricing for merchants is as follows:
1.99% + .29 for each purchase a buyer makes.*

plus the buyer pays 2% or you can opt to pay the fee for the buyer making the seller fee 3.99%

When I went to get the fees it says they are now able to send payment from 240 countries and receive in 170

They are based in USA

iKobo International Headquarters:
iKobo, Inc.
1355 Terrell Mill Rd
Building 1466
Marietta, GA 30067
USA

It is free to join and if you use my link I get $10 !

There is tons of info on their site! check it out!

See sig for link!
V V V V V V V V

Imageauction · 01-25-2004, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
The only two countries that are excluded are Iran and Iraq.

What about Cuba?

imageman · 01-25-2004, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx

I get payments from Sex.com sent to my paypal account. Do you think they would shut me down for recieving payments from them? Hmmm...maybe I should change my payment method to check from paypal. Doesn't Silvercash use them, too??

Pay Pal will use any excuse to keep your $$$ . The first chance they get they place a hold on your account . And then good luck trying to get someone to remove it.

E Passporte is a good but expensive alternative

danevans · 01-25-2004, 10:06 AM

EpicCash Also supports Epassporte

Jarmusch · 01-25-2004, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
If you want the money wired into your bank, we will do that, but wire fees do occur and they will vary depending on your bank. For instance Bank of America charges me $10 to receive domestic wires and $30 to receive international wires. Once again the banks are getting their cut...

I didn't know about that Kimmykim, I think I'm gonna start swiching to epassporte on all my sponsors. Receiving one big wire with only 1 wire fee, instead of several smaller wires and several fees is nice.

Cash · 01-25-2004, 10:12 AM

Excerpts from Gammacash:
"Paypal does not allow us anymore to pay our adult webmasters using their services, so if your account was set to be paid by Paypal, you have to change your payment method."
Maybe this will happen to all the other adult companies.
epassporte is the way to go ...

IntenseCash · 01-25-2004, 10:14 AM

I have a friend that wants to set up a site and have a page where surfers can send donations. It is half adult, half information out books etc. Donations are anywhere from $1 to $100

Should he use Paypal or something like Epassport?

Thanks for the input.
Chuck

El Demonio · 01-25-2004, 10:51 AM

i'm doing very well wih prepaid phone cards, recurring billing and aff. program,

want more info?, hit me up in ICQ 16216853

01-25-2004, 11:10 AM

for ePassporte

Paul Markham · 01-25-2004, 11:42 AM

There is only one problem with Epassporte, only 5% of webmasters use it to buy from us.

However if more used it we might have problems with only taking out $300 a day.

The system is good, but it never compares to Paypal when it was running.

4.5% comission, immediate free bank transfer, no upper limit.

And KK we got a confirmation email, something Ep cannot do.

Kimmykim · 01-25-2004, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imageauction

What about Cuba?

Cuba is not an issue, ePassporte is a Curacao company, not a US one

charly, once again you bitch about things that are not even correct... gotta love it.

mazafaka · 01-25-2004, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thepornoguy

Yahoo accepts Adult Sites?

MONEYBOOKERS do.

It's UK based. So there is not so many porn haters around.

avion · 01-25-2004, 02:33 PM

paypal SUCKS!

beemk · 01-25-2004, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Paypal doesn't process for adult.

PbG · 02-20-2004, 05:04 AM

Nope

Quote:

Originally posted by thepornoguy

Yahoo accepts Adult Sites?

PbG · 02-20-2004, 05:10 AM

Ikobo has grown too big too fast and now their customer support/service sucks. It takes weeks and/or months to get a response from them. Although after months it is quite possible you will not get a response at all. They have hidden fees too. Eg: a customer signsup in error/duplicates a purchase. Or you do not wish to accept a payment from someone for whatever reason. You have to pay them the processing fees and $0.95 to cancel the duplicate/undesired order.

They do not advise you of chargebacks. They just take the money out of your account. although you may get a notice telling you that you initiated a refund. It took a week to get them explain what the fuck happened.

They announced a lower fee (2.99%) becomes effective January 1, 2004. Yet they are still charging us 3.99%. Calling them is waste of time. You never get anyone on the phone and they do not return calls.

It used to take them 24 hours or less to deposit/release funds collected on our behalf. Now it takes them a minimum 72 hours days to release our money collected.

I have written them with all these concerns. Yet nothing changes for the better and they do not respond. They continue on as if we the customers will keep silent about their progressive deterioration.

We've been using Ikobo for eight [8] months. Bottomline stay away from Ikobo!

Quote:

Originally posted by thepornoguy
Actually iKobo is the shiite!

They allow you to send money to 170 countries.

The receiver does not even need a computer.

iKobo sends the recipient a Plus ATM card in the Snail Mail and the funds are available in a millions of ATM machines world wide.

Plus their affiliate program pays a percentage of the transaction fees paid by users you refer

It is free to set-up an account and they give you $10 bucks for everyone you refer who actually sends someone money.

http://www.ikobo.com/ref.cgi?r=EF426333MX

Oh yeah they are based in the USA for all you pansies who think only the USA has trustworthy businesses!

iKobo the new PayPal for adult webmasters and the rest of you too!

EvaPharmacy · 02-20-2004, 07:47 AM

I hate paypal and won't recommend it to anybody

01-23-2004, 08:53 AM	#1
dougeetx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,163	Paypal Vs. Epassporte What's this new fixation with Epassporte? I don't understand. What can they do that Paypal doesn't. They don't even have re-occurring billing. They both offer debit cards. I really don't understand. Help a brotha out! Thanks! __________________ Coming Soon! A NEW revolution in black adult social networking!

01-23-2004, 08:54 AM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Paypal doesn't process for adult. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

01-23-2004, 09:02 AM	#8
dougeetx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,163	Can someone list some sponsors that use epassporte??? __________________ Coming Soon! A NEW revolution in black adult social networking!

01-23-2004, 09:35 AM	#12
Platinum Doug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 413	PLATINUM BUCKS uses both . . . __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-23-2004, 10:15 AM	#14
ChewbaCreative Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,118	paypal era is over? __________________ high design. high creative. adultcreative

01-23-2004, 08:54 AM	#3
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	uhhhhh epassporte allows adult business?

01-23-2004, 08:55 AM	#4
brizzad holla Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KFC Posts: 11,769	don't even use paypal for mainstream sites.. fuck paypal.. www.fuckpaypal.com www.paypalsucks.com

01-23-2004, 08:59 AM	#7
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	paypal doesnt allow a lot of countries. so i use Epass instead and really happy with it. plus a lot of sponsors do instant payout to epass - as soon as you make a sale. i like it.

01-23-2004, 09:54 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	epp is cheaper than pp

01-23-2004, 10:56 AM	#17
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Here's how the breakdown goes -- There is a $5 charge to create an account. This charge is money that goes to Visa for royalties on the card number -- since EVERY eP account comes standard with a Virtual Visa/CVV2 that can be used online for purchases. In order to activate this number, Visa gets their money up front. Some sponsors will pay this fee for you, some don't. I do not know how each sponsor is set up fyi. If you already have an account your new sponsors that are paying you via eP would use your existing account and there is no charge for that. When you receive payment into eP account, there is a $2 charge for that. Once again some sponsors pay it, some do it like a check writing or wire fee and make the affiliate pay it. Once again I don't know who is doing what since there are many sponsors set up to pay via ePassporte and my memory isn't that good lol ;) Your eP account also functions similarly to Paypal in that you can transfer money between users. On a personal account the charge to transfer is .25, regardless of the amount of the transaction. If you use your eP account to purchase something at an ePassporte merchant, any fees are charged to the merchant. If you like you can get a Visa Electron card tied to your account. It takes approximately 10 business days for this to reach you once you order it -- and yes, you have to order it and there is a fee of $35 to get it -- once again, Visa is going to get their cut every time the logo or brand name is used before the first transaction occurs... it's their way of making money. Once you have the Electron card you can withdraw money and use the card at qualified POP terminals worldwide. The only two countries that are excluded are Iran and Iraq. The biggest benefit to you as a reseller in getting paid via ePassporte is that your money comes to you immediately, you aren't waiting on checks, if you are non-US your bank isn't charging you to cash a check when you finally get it, and you can spend the money however you like, or take it out in cash with the Electron card. If you want the money wired into your bank, we will do that, but wire fees do occur and they will vary depending on your bank. For instance Bank of America charges me $10 to receive domestic wires and $30 to receive international wires. Once again the banks are getting their cut... Hopefully this will help you dougee If not ask more questions and I'll be happy to answer.

01-23-2004, 10:57 AM	#18
NaughtyJenn Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 7,355	is there a way i can contact you via icq ?

01-23-2004, 11:02 AM	#21
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01-25-2004, 04:27 AM	#23
thepornoguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Online Posts: 163	Actually iKobo is the shiite! They allow you to send money to 170 countries. The receiver does not even need a computer. iKobo sends the recipient a Plus ATM card in the Snail Mail and the funds are available in a millions of ATM machines world wide. Plus their affiliate program pays a percentage of the transaction fees paid by users you refer It is free to set-up an account and they give you $10 bucks for everyone you refer who actually sends someone money. http://www.ikobo.com/ref.cgi?r=EF426333MX Oh yeah they are based in the USA for all you pansies who think only the USA has trustworthy businesses! iKobo the new PayPal for adult webmasters and the rest of you too! __________________ John 'TPG' Smith Poonhound FREE CASH iKobo The new paypal for adult webmasters Hosted exclusively by <a href=http://69adulthost.com>http://69adulthost.com</a>

01-25-2004, 04:36 AM	#24
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	I payed for sex.com traffic with paypal...I think you still can, I wouldnt know because the traffic sux and I wont buy again

01-25-2004, 05:06 AM	#25
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Epassporte rocks for quick payouts Good to see more and more sponsors are using it Latest two I found SexPicturesPass <-------- First AVS program to offer payouts via Epassporte Silvercash Can´t go wrong with these guys And of cause the rest are in my sig ;) __________________ Truth Teller

01-25-2004, 05:48 AM	#27
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Are there any other charges besides the $2 for receving funds? Like a % of the total transaction? __________________ Take Luck!

01-25-2004, 07:21 AM	#28
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	The sponsors I use all take $2 from your payout and thats all. Then its. $.25 to transfer your funds to another epassporte account or $2 to withdraw it from ATM. $5 a year for the virtual account and $35 for the card. Thats about it for fees no % __________________ Truth Teller

01-25-2004, 07:32 AM	#29
rebel23 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 817	pornoguy, what are their fee's then? you got a breakdown for us... ?

01-25-2004, 10:06 AM	#33
danevans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1,295	EpicCash Also supports Epassporte __________________ Custom adult games / apps for your paysites. webmaster at multimoodia.net icq35291012

01-25-2004, 10:12 AM	#35
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Excerpts from Gammacash: "Paypal does not allow us anymore to pay our adult webmasters using their services, so if your account was set to be paid by Paypal, you have to change your payment method." Maybe this will happen to all the other adult companies. epassporte is the way to go ... __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

01-25-2004, 10:14 AM	#36
IntenseCash Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,421	I have a friend that wants to set up a site and have a page where surfers can send donations. It is half adult, half information out books etc. Donations are anywhere from $1 to $100 Should he use Paypal or something like Epassport? Thanks for the input. Chuck __________________ IntenseCash.com ~ Chuck \| ICQ: 444887112 Top converting sites: BrokeStraightBoys.com, CollegeDudes.com & CollegeBoyPhysicals.com

01-25-2004, 10:51 AM	#37
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	i'm doing very well wih prepaid phone cards, recurring billing and aff. program, want more info?, hit me up in ICQ 16216853 __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

01-25-2004, 11:10 AM	#38
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	for ePassporte

01-25-2004, 11:42 AM	#39
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	There is only one problem with Epassporte, only 5% of webmasters use it to buy from us. However if more used it we might have problems with only taking out $300 a day. The system is good, but it never compares to Paypal when it was running. 4.5% comission, immediate free bank transfer, no upper limit. And KK we got a confirmation email, something Ep cannot do. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-25-2004, 02:33 PM	#42
avion Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: right next to u Posts: 1,403	paypal SUCKS!

02-20-2004, 07:47 AM	#46
EvaPharmacy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 255	I hate paypal and won't recommend it to anybody __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.