XesCash + SleazyDream + CCBill - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

NickB. · 01-23-2004, 05:36 AM

The gallery looks good! Videos are good quality, I guess the problem is the Niche, Interracial-Facial, I advertised at sleazydream a lot when I used to work for payserve.com .

You just need to test what niche-gallery type works best for you with sleazy's traffic. As his traffic is really really good!

Most of the advertising costs should be covered with retention as well.

Btw why would you post this on a webmasterboard? It's not really friendly to the sponsor-CCbill or sleazy is it?
As you advertise at sleazy, you work with cybercatinc.com, why don't you contact them about it? Mark and Parney are great people to work with

biskoppen · 01-23-2004, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by tradermcduck
biskoppen,

Get your own paysite and merchant account ... you'll be surprised !

Enough said :-)

Yes, it would be interesting to see the "real" numbers

Paul · 01-23-2004, 05:54 AM

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so how do I contact xes cash? It seems impossible to reach them...

[email protected]

Can be a bit slow on the replies at times but you should get a response in a day or 2

biskoppen · 01-23-2004, 06:03 AM

<< Btw why would you post this on a webmasterboard? It's not really friendly to the sponsor

I tried to contact the sponsor several times, no answer .. as mentioned in the initial post.

<< or sleazy is it?

Please note that I maked it very clear from the start that this wasn't about Sleazys traffic. I've been doing good with his traffic.

I was hoping that some other people pushing EBT might had experienced the same thing yesterday - then we could might locate an error or a cheater.

Some people are might used to days with 1:7000 (now 1:4000) but when you're used to 1:400 overall its seems a little strange when your ratio pops the roof off when sending it above-average traffic from a topspot.

Another reason I react is that I thought that EBT would pull fine from Sleazys traffic because I see EBT as a mainstream site more than a niche site... Well it is niche .. but ebony teens being fucked by white cocks are more mainstream than boyscouts in pantyhoses - if you get my point.

So.. lets end this thread.. no one screamed : "EBT sucked bigtime for me too yesterday" as I hoped .. so it seems I just were in the wrong place on the wrong day.

Check out www.exploitedblackteens.com .. it really is some killer content they got ..

TheSenator · 01-23-2004, 09:12 AM

I glad you can't change cookies once you maked them...

corvette · 01-23-2004, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

corvett, I don't want to say anything that will sound bad towards CCBill or anything but sometimes there is DEFINATELY something up with CCBill. I stopped promoting anything to do with them when our accounts would magically convert 10x worse overnight and not recover for weeks sometimes. I blame it on scrub, but every time you say that the scrub is not adjusted etc.

I analyze shit too much sometimes but when my conversions go from 1:60 to 1:1000 literally overnight after months of steady conversions I feel I can safely say something is funky. And no, this isn't TGP traffic and it's a variety of sources that all end up the same, shit conversions.

I do know that I won't even try CCBill unless there is an amazing program that I just have to push because I hate wasting time. When I have to go cut off 40 PPC campaigns all pushing traffic to CCBill sites because they go from +60% profit to -200% profit and just stay there for awhile I get a little irritated.

By no means am I saying this is exclusive to CCBill but you are always here to say that nothing is up no matter how many people experience the same thing. One of my main sponsors was having the same effect yesterday, I did a little test and found out that 90% of the customers that tried to sign up had their c/c declined. They do their own processing but still, this was obviously them scrubbing or a glitch and all was normal later on.

People just want to know what is up, we have money and time invested in these sites also.

Stocktrader, I have been at CCBill for nearly 5 years and I like to think that I have a very good idea of how things work. I know how the scrubbing operates and a transaction, as well as groups of transactions, can be easily traced and audited. There is a huge misconception of how the scrubbing works; many people think that it changes on a daily basis, which is certainly not the case. I have heard constantly over the years that ratios are down, something is wrong, etc?countless times, and not just with CCBill. When I was in the Cavecreek side of it, I would hear the same thing with accounts with the other billing companies. That is just how the industry works?.there are blocks of days where a referrer?s ratio is suddenly 1:30, then on the reverse, there are days where they are on the opposite end?people tend to complain a lot more when things are going badly and sit smug and quiet when things are going well, which is great and I understand completely. I am not saying that is the case here, but overall, I tend to hear more complaints about ratios than have people come to me when ratios/traffic is doing well?I am asked to ?kick? the conversion machine

98% of the time that I hear complaints, I look at the other referrer ratios for the program and see some affiliates that are doing great, when a test transaction is attempted, it gets accepted and goes through fine, shows up in the stats, the works. Just a few days ago, I got my credit card statement and I had 5 charges from CCBill on there, all from test signups that I did that went through.

Ratios are going to go up and they are going to go down, they are typically better during holidays; weekends have a slightly lower decline rate, etc?that?s just how things work

If you think that something is wrong, it can be troubleshot. There might be something, there might not be?but it can easily be looked into. Our client support department can help check things out and I will ultimately make sure that you get taken care of?

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Dveron · 01-25-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by biskoppen

I'll post the results .. if I remember

Theo · 01-26-2004, 12:04 AM

good and bad days are normal

biskoppen · 01-26-2004, 12:06 AM

I ended up with 6 signups .. not quite sure about the ratio now, but around 1:1500 I think ...

Krille · 01-26-2004, 02:07 AM

so how much did the spot cost ya?

biskoppen · 01-26-2004, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by Krille
so how much did the spot cost ya?

$225 (If you buy 4)

teomaxxx · 01-27-2004, 01:36 AM

how is your retention with exploitedblackteens? i just checked mine and its about 25usd per SU (however i have around 30active memebers yet), but on the other side i have too much revokes.
I made in past 103SU with EBT, but 9 of them were refunds and 2 chargebacks, wich is pretty high ratio. I am just afraid of ccbill kicking my all acounts just for EBT revokes. Anyway with other sites on CCBILL i had hardly only few revokes.

For how many days stay purchased galleryspot on Sleazydream?

01-23-2004, 06:03 AM	#54
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	<< Btw why would you post this on a webmasterboard? It's not really friendly to the sponsor I tried to contact the sponsor several times, no answer .. as mentioned in the initial post. << or sleazy is it? Please note that I maked it very clear from the start that this wasn't about Sleazys traffic. I've been doing good with his traffic. I was hoping that some other people pushing EBT might had experienced the same thing yesterday - then we could might locate an error or a cheater. Some people are might used to days with 1:7000 (now 1:4000) but when you're used to 1:400 overall its seems a little strange when your ratio pops the roof off when sending it above-average traffic from a topspot. Another reason I react is that I thought that EBT would pull fine from Sleazys traffic because I see EBT as a mainstream site more than a niche site... Well it is niche .. but ebony teens being fucked by white cocks are more mainstream than boyscouts in pantyhoses - if you get my point. So.. lets end this thread.. no one screamed : "EBT sucked bigtime for me too yesterday" as I hoped .. so it seems I just were in the wrong place on the wrong day. Check out www.exploitedblackteens.com .. it really is some killer content they got .. __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here Last edited by biskoppen; 01-23-2004 at 06:07 AM..

01-26-2004, 12:06 AM	#59
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	I ended up with 6 signups .. not quite sure about the ratio now, but around 1:1500 I think ... __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

01-23-2004, 05:36 AM	#51
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	The gallery looks good! Videos are good quality, I guess the problem is the Niche, Interracial-Facial, I advertised at sleazydream a lot when I used to work for payserve.com . You just need to test what niche-gallery type works best for you with sleazy's traffic. As his traffic is really really good! Most of the advertising costs should be covered with retention as well. Btw why would you post this on a webmasterboard? It's not really friendly to the sponsor-CCbill or sleazy is it? As you advertise at sleazy, you work with cybercatinc.com, why don't you contact them about it? Mark and Parney are great people to work with

01-23-2004, 09:12 AM	#55
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	I glad you can't change cookies once you maked them...

01-26-2004, 12:04 AM	#58
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good and bad days are normal

01-26-2004, 02:07 AM	#60
Krille Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bangkok Posts: 2,436	so how much did the spot cost ya?

01-27-2004, 01:36 AM	#62
teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	how is your retention with exploitedblackteens? i just checked mine and its about 25usd per SU (however i have around 30active memebers yet), but on the other side i have too much revokes. I made in past 103SU with EBT, but 9 of them were refunds and 2 chargebacks, wich is pretty high ratio. I am just afraid of ccbill kicking my all acounts just for EBT revokes. Anyway with other sites on CCBILL i had hardly only few revokes. For how many days stay purchased galleryspot on Sleazydream?