iDownload.com is Pulling A Ken Lawson!!! Thanks 49th Parallel! - GoFuckYourself.com

Hooper · 01-22-2004, 09:53 PM

We're bowing to publing pressure and removing the recurring language from our terms.

We had considered adding a recurring option to our software sales, but have decided that it is best to abandon that idea and persue a more ethical approach to software sales.

iDownload.com sales are now and will forever be (with the exception of some low priced and very genuine upcoming monthly service products) a one time only fee and there will never be any fine print bullshit.

So now... comb over our terms and conditions again.

I hope you'll find that we're good enough to do business with

Thanks to everybody who voiced their opinions, it has actually made an impact!!!

Spunky · 01-22-2004, 09:53 PM

Good Stuff

mrthumbs · 01-22-2004, 09:54 PM

hooper, im proud of you!

tbabe · 01-22-2004, 09:55 PM

I thought the recurring was a good idea. But i also enjoy sniffing glue on occasion. So take it for what its worth.

Hooper · 01-22-2004, 10:03 PM

recurring is a good idea. and a software of the month club is a great idea. the combination of our products and recurring just isnt meant to be.

For our model we are going to stick with one time fees. largely because affiliates feel that they are getting screwed if we somehow ever rebill.

Bottom line is that now we're paying you more than 75% of the revenue after our expenses.

No other software program will pay you as much.

Hooper · 01-22-2004, 10:12 PM

OH MY GOD..

I forgot to mention.

We have switched from Jettis (owned by the same guy who bashed us) to http://www.netbilling.com

The level of control and detail that Mitch & Crew let you have is just amazing....and our sales are SIGNIFICANTLY higher thus far than they ever were with jettis. Don't know why.

xxxdesign-net · 01-22-2004, 10:13 PM

chodadog · 01-22-2004, 10:19 PM

Good move!

tranza · 01-22-2004, 10:25 PM

I noticed you guys haven't translated your softwares to portuguese... If you're interested I could do it for you...

E-mail me if interested: tranzap -at- bol.com.br

detoxed · 01-22-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
I noticed you guys haven't translated your softwares to portuguese... If you're interested I could do it for you...

E-mail me if interested: tranzap -at- bol.com.br

I also noticed the software hasnt been translated into drunken gibberish. Buy me a fifth of Jack Daniels and I'll do it for free!

Mike AI · 01-22-2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
OH MY GOD..

I forgot to mention.

We have switched from Jettis (owned by the same guy who bashed us) to http://www.netbilling.com

The level of control and detail that Mitch & Crew let you have is just amazing....and our sales are SIGNIFICANTLY higher thus far than they ever were with jettis. Don't know why.

Wine?

or just sour grapes?

tranza · 01-22-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed

I also noticed the software hasnt been translated into drunken gibberish. Buy me a fifth of Jack Daniels and I'll do it for free!

Lol... I can't help myself... I acctually laughed because of your post....

BTW:

Kimmykim · 01-22-2004, 10:37 PM

Damn, the less time I spend on boards the more it starts to look like some kind of movie where the inmates are running the asylum...

Can someone fill me in? I was working on my move the last couple days and don't get any of this.

detoxed · 01-22-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Damn, the less time I spend on boards the more it starts to look like some kind of movie where the inmates are running the asylum...

Can someone fill me in? I was working on my move the last couple days and don't get any of this.

idownload.com sells software. People on GFY freaked out that the terms said it was $24.95 recurring. Hooper said no one had actually been rebilled it was just there for the future.

Hooper now says they took that text out of the terms.

tbabe · 01-22-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI

Wine?

or just sour grapes?

LOL

Hooper · 01-22-2004, 11:07 PM

my grapes arent sour.... they're just finally drinkable:

These are just the french vineyards that my distributorship represents. I have only tried one of them, but i'm told that the rest are fan-fuckin-tastic

Balandran
Domaine de L?Ameillaud
Domaine de Mourchon
Domaine St. Laurent

I just do business with those who make me the most $$$... and right now that $$$ is coming from netbilling

Mike AI · 01-22-2004, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
my grapes arent sour.... they're just finally drinkable:

These are just the french vineyards that my distributorship represents. I have only tried one of them, but i'm told that the rest are fan-fuckin-tastic

Balandran
Domaine de L?Ameillaud
Domaine de Mourchon
Domaine St. Laurent

I just do business with those who make me the most $$$... and right now that $$$ is coming from netbilling

Hoop, I totally respect that.

I remembered your side business, hence setting the ball on the tee for you.

Trax · 01-22-2004, 11:10 PM

everything else would really have been a rip off!

serious · 01-22-2004, 11:11 PM

with the amount of time i spend on gfy its amazing how much drama i still miss wtf

Kimmykim · 01-23-2004, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

idownload.com sells software. People on GFY freaked out that the terms said it was $24.95 recurring. Hooper said no one had actually been rebilled it was just there for the future.

Hooper now says they took that text out of the terms.

So everyone on here is only going to push non-recurring porn memberships too from now on I take it?

Awesome! That means everyone can take ePassporte for payment from surfers since we don't do recurring right now.

Thanks Hoop, you made my day!!!!

NETbilling · 01-23-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
OH MY GOD..

I forgot to mention.

We have switched from Jettis (owned by the same guy who bashed us) to http://www.netbilling.com

The level of control and detail that Mitch & Crew let you have is just amazing....and our sales are SIGNIFICANTLY higher thus far than they ever were with jettis. Don't know why.

Hooper,

Thanks for the nice words and welcome aboard. We are happy to have you!

Mitch

Sly_RJ · 01-23-2004, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

So everyone on here is only going to push non-recurring porn memberships too from now on I take it?

Awesome! That means everyone can take ePassporte for payment from surfers since we don't do recurring right now.

Thanks Hoop, you made my day!!!!

It wasn't porn memberships. It was a hard copy software title. Supposedly every month a new version of the title would be sent to the person and they would be billed. I could be wrong, I never understood why they would be rebilling for hard copy software so I didn't pay too much attention.

12clicks · 01-23-2004, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
my grapes arent sour.... they're just finally drinkable:

These are just the french vineyards that my distributorship represents. I have only tried one of them, but i'm told that the rest are fan-fuckin-tastic

Balandran
Domaine de L?Ameillaud
Domaine de Mourchon
Domaine St. Laurent

I just do business with those who make me the most $$$... and right now that $$$ is coming from netbilling

shit Hooper, at dinner I could have ordered french instead of Cali if you would have let me know.

of course, you'd of had to let me know in like the first 5 minutes. ahahaha

don't forget me on monday.

Kimmykim · 01-23-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

It wasn't porn memberships. It was a hard copy software title. Supposedly every month a new version of the title would be sent to the person and they would be billed. I could be wrong, I never understood why they would be rebilling for hard copy software so I didn't pay too much attention.

It actually makes quite a bit of sense to me, and it's not bad reasoning at all from a business standpoint.

I just find it ironic that people making a living off selling subscriptions to surfers who don't make use of them would be bagging on someone else for incorporating that business model into non-adult. And by sending the surfer a hard copy every month it would certainly remind them to either use it or cancel their subscription... something that porn doesn't do.

Jay_StandAhead · 01-23-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

So everyone on here is only going to push non-recurring porn memberships too from now on I take it?

Awesome! That means everyone can take ePassporte for payment from surfers since we don't do recurring right now.

That'd be the shit, wouldn't it?

Kimmykim · 01-23-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]

That'd be the shit, wouldn't it?

Don't you know it ;)

Oh look, we have the same tagline!

NETbilling · 01-23-2004, 07:08 PM

Hooper,

Idownload.com is a great looking site, I must say. Excellent design.

Mitch

RRRED · 01-23-2004, 07:15 PM

Wow Mitch. You couldn't tell that to Hooper in an email? Nice way to bump a thread that died 5 hours ago.

And to those who need to use reputable business names to promote themselves... another

iwantchixx · 01-23-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
We're bowing to publing pressure and removing the recurring language from our terms.

We had considered adding a recurring option to our software sales, but have decided that it is best to abandon that idea and persue a more ethical approach to software sales.

iDownload.com sales are now and will forever be (with the exception of some low priced and very genuine upcoming monthly service products) a one time only fee and there will never be any fine print bullshit.

So now... comb over our terms and conditions again.

I hope you'll find that we're good enough to do business with

Thanks to everybody who voiced their opinions, it has actually made an impact!!!

Very SMART and HONNEST thing of you to do! Great job. Kudos!

Sly_RJ · 01-23-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
Wow Mitch. You couldn't tell that to Hooper in an email? Nice way to bump a thread that died 5 hours ago.

And to those who need to use reputable business names to promote themselves... another

Not everyone has a Turd.

RRRED · 01-23-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Not everyone has a Turd.

haha true... well at least my turd don't stink

NETbilling · 01-23-2004, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
Wow Mitch. You couldn't tell that to Hooper in an email? Nice way to bump a thread that died 5 hours ago.

And to those who need to use reputable business names to promote themselves... another

You are just plain mean. I do not need any reputable names to promote our company. We do just fine, thank you. Also, I do not sit on the board all day like some and watch threads. I come and do a search or two, post and leave. I do not look when the thread was last posted on etc.. no need to. There is nothing wrong with me commenting on the nice design of the site publically. Now be nice or go away please.

Mitch

stocktrader23 · 01-23-2004, 08:43 PM

Hooper, just to clarify, when I posted in the other thread I flamed you but I also said I could care less how you decided to bill your customers. Was just saying don't sugar coat it to webmasters. ;)

Stuff still looks good, and good luck with it.

quiet · 01-25-2004, 02:54 PM

hey Hooper, who did the design for idownload.com (if you don't mind me asking)... thanks

Hooper · 01-25-2004, 03:40 PM

lol quiet you're such an instigator.

the design was done by our in house designer http://www.kidredproductions.com

well actually, he was in house for about 1.5 years but he's available for work as of a week ago, we'll keep using him but he was getting a bit bored working only on our projects so he's available. i cant speak highly enough about him.

quiet · 01-25-2004, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
lol quiet you're such an instigator.

the design was done by our in house designer http://www.kidredproductions.com

well actually, he was in house for about 1.5 years but he's available for work as of a week ago, we'll keep using him but he was getting a bit bored working only on our projects so he's available. i cant speak highly enough about him.

lol. really great design, thanks for the info :)

01-22-2004, 09:53 PM	#1
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	iDownload.com is Pulling A Ken Lawson!!! Thanks 49th Parallel! We're bowing to publing pressure and removing the recurring language from our terms. We had considered adding a recurring option to our software sales, but have decided that it is best to abandon that idea and persue a more ethical approach to software sales. iDownload.com sales are now and will forever be (with the exception of some low priced and very genuine upcoming monthly service products) a one time only fee and there will never be any fine print bullshit. So now... comb over our terms and conditions again. I hope you'll find that we're good enough to do business with Thanks to everybody who voiced their opinions, it has actually made an impact!!! __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

01-22-2004, 09:53 PM	#2
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01-22-2004, 10:03 PM	#5
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	recurring is a good idea. and a software of the month club is a great idea. the combination of our products and recurring just isnt meant to be. For our model we are going to stick with one time fees. largely because affiliates feel that they are getting screwed if we somehow ever rebill. Bottom line is that now we're paying you more than 75% of the revenue after our expenses. No other software program will pay you as much. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a> Last edited by Hooper; 01-22-2004 at 10:07 PM..

01-22-2004, 10:12 PM	#6
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	OH MY GOD.. I forgot to mention. We have switched from Jettis (owned by the same guy who bashed us) to http://www.netbilling.com The level of control and detail that Mitch & Crew let you have is just amazing....and our sales are SIGNIFICANTLY higher thus far than they ever were with jettis. Don't know why. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

01-22-2004, 10:19 PM	#8
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Good move! __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

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mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	hooper, im proud of you!

01-22-2004, 09:55 PM	#4
tbabe Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,494	I thought the recurring was a good idea. But i also enjoy sniffing glue on occasion. So take it for what its worth.

01-22-2004, 10:13 PM	#7
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01-22-2004, 10:25 PM	#9
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I noticed you guys haven't translated your softwares to portuguese... If you're interested I could do it for you... E-mail me if interested: tranzap -at- bol.com.br __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-22-2004, 10:37 PM	#13
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Damn, the less time I spend on boards the more it starts to look like some kind of movie where the inmates are running the asylum... Can someone fill me in? I was working on my move the last couple days and don't get any of this.

01-22-2004, 11:07 PM	#16
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	my grapes arent sour.... they're just finally drinkable: These are just the french vineyards that my distributorship represents. I have only tried one of them, but i'm told that the rest are fan-fuckin-tastic Balandran Domaine de L?Ameillaud Domaine de Mourchon Domaine St. Laurent I just do business with those who make me the most $$$... and right now that $$$ is coming from netbilling __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

01-22-2004, 11:10 PM	#18
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	everything else would really have been a rip off!

01-22-2004, 11:11 PM	#19
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	with the amount of time i spend on gfy its amazing how much drama i still miss wtf __________________ new search

01-23-2004, 07:08 PM	#27
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,588	Hooper, Idownload.com is a great looking site, I must say. Excellent design. Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

01-23-2004, 07:15 PM	#28
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Wow Mitch. You couldn't tell that to Hooper in an email? Nice way to bump a thread that died 5 hours ago. And to those who need to use reputable business names to promote themselves... another

01-23-2004, 08:43 PM	#33
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Hooper, just to clarify, when I posted in the other thread I flamed you but I also said I could care less how you decided to bill your customers. Was just saying don't sugar coat it to webmasters. ;) Stuff still looks good, and good luck with it. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

01-25-2004, 02:54 PM	#34
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hey Hooper, who did the design for idownload.com (if you don't mind me asking)... thanks

01-25-2004, 03:40 PM	#35
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	lol quiet you're such an instigator. the design was done by our in house designer http://www.kidredproductions.com well actually, he was in house for about 1.5 years but he's available for work as of a week ago, we'll keep using him but he was getting a bit bored working only on our projects so he's available. i cant speak highly enough about him. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>