Pointless

anyone else notice that ratios for the email program have taken a hammering?

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 Smokey The Bear 

Theres a rampant email virus heading around , when they popup it really kills the email programs. ( for obvious reasons )

Whenever you hear of a big email virus announcement switch your traffic to other programs for awhile.

Overall i dont see any great decrease about the same as the other email sponsors.

I have accounts with all of them ( i think ) for testing purposes.

psyko514

read their support forum from time to time.

the confirm emails aren't going through to hotmail (and yahoo too, i think)

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yes i have noticed decrease

something todo with hotmail filters

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 Smokey The Bear 

With almost any program i would use a MONTH for a test period , anything shorter can result in glitched etc. And about 100,000 hits at least.

If those averages drop by 10% or more . something is wrong

This is if you traffic was essentially the same.

 Smokey The Bear 

I dont think anyones are right now . I tested almost all of them last week. Not one program made it thru.

Passbucks nope ezine nope weg nope gamma nope cecash nope.

This is on default spam filtering in yahoo and hotmail

integrated

why do that when they have a board whore like you, here praising them every 2 minutes?

oh thats right you don't mention bad things only good. Is that in the contract?

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brand0n

well, you know with the amount of emails that they are missing out on right now they are doing everything they can.

hope they can work this out, hotmail is a bitch.

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They always get around them eventually . Its just who can do it the best on a consistent basis

CE does great but you have to pick certain niche's

psyko514

i praise em because they're a good sponsor. i don't have any contracts or agreements or anything. all i have is a ref code in my sig that makes me $15-$40 per webmaster who signs up and makes money with weg as well. admittedly, it's not a lot and a percentage would be better.

what bad things do you want me to say? it sucks that the emails aren't go through, but it's not their fault and they're working on fixing it. sure, they communicated it poorly, but c'est la vie.

other than that, they don't shave me, they send me checks on time and they pay me weekly.

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OVER $10,000 in bonus's in the last 2 months helps as well

psyko514

are you sure that CEMag's emails aren't going through? i pulled my traffic from WEG to CEMags for the time being and i'm doing better.

the submit to confirm ratio is pretty weak though (about 1:6.5)

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psyko514

that's true as well, but you can look back and see i've been pushing them and pulling out my ref link long before they held that contest.

it wouldn't make much sense if i went around saying "wegcash sucks! <A href=http://www.wegcash.com/?wm=ngnd>sign up now!</a>"

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 Smokey The Bear 

Only some of them get through in certain niches. Some do better than others, you should be able to spot the ones that get through just by name. Maybe not though.

Check your stats carefully and see what the submit to confirm for each niche is. You will notice some discrepencies.

psyko514

i'm only pushing one niche with cemags.

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I know man im just bugging you. LOL i do it everytime and you always try to defend yourself every time hehe. Most people would just say FUCK OFF lol

But obviously even with that said , it cant help but influence you a bit.

I try to be as non-biased as i can , as i dont use ref codes in my sig . I try to give webmasters the best choice. ( its not always easy )

 Smokey The Bear 

Use the allaccess then . Its more reliable.

What niche . I can tell you if its getting through ( well as of last week anyways )

psyko514

fact is, i wouldn't be pushing them if they didn't pay, right?

i wouldn't tell people to signup and send traffic if i knew they didn't pay for it. and i wouldn't have spent the last several months referring webmasters under me without getting paid.

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 Smokey The Bear 

exactly . All in all i think they are a great program. The trials dont seem to convert well , and that always was odd to me as they look very nice. Cecash trials do almost twice as good , and they look crappy , i dread to think whats inside of some of them i almost feel sorry for the surfers sometimes haha

 Smokey The Bear 

Layout is very important too and is much more important conversion wise than email spam filters( unless they get out of hand )

You have to pay VERY close attention to your sponsors as they ALWAYS have a way OUT of using your ref code.

From ce's viagra program that has a HUGE 1-800- number on the page you send traffic to ( thus virtually eliminating your potential sale )

To most trials sponsors that now have an EMAIL BOX on the page you send traffic to. ( thus cutting you out of the sale )

To the most common and personally offensive one is " WEBMASTERS CLICK HERE TO MAKE CASH " without my damn ref code in it.

Why do all the sponsors do this , it pisses me off.

In the old days sponsors were as brazen enough to make a link back to the main page without your link code on it. LOL basically stealing your customer right out from under you if they didnt click the JOIN NOW button.

Jman69

Those email programs are bullshit, the surfer gets like 10 junk mails a day, good riddens to that shit, I think ISPs should filter them out as well.

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 Smokey The Bear 

Some are better than others.

I still think they should send the emails of people who didnt convert back to the webmaster as it is single opt - in at that point.