Does free porn destroy the market for paysites? - GoFuckYourself.com

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:28 AM

I mean - when people can just jack off to free pics or even movies why should they be interested in paying for acces to that which is available freely?

And even if you decide not to give away free porn plenty of other people are doing it.

So how are you dealing with this catch 22 of porn marketing?

Mistersoft

johnbosh · 01-19-2004, 06:36 AM

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by johnbosh
no

Huh?
You are not dealing with it???

Libertine · 01-19-2004, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by johnbosh
no

Go and annoy people somewhere else, you dumb fag.

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Go and annoy people somewhere else, you dumb fag.

Do you have a problem with homosexuality?

Libertine · 01-19-2004, 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by mistersoft

Do you have a problem with homosexuality?

No, I have a problem with the lame fucker that keeps on making useless posts purely for the sake of getting his sig in.

Mike-BP · 01-19-2004, 06:45 AM

Does a movietrailer destroy the market for movies?

BIG Movie List · 01-19-2004, 06:45 AM

i don't think so.

think of it this way, when you buy a shirt, you have to make sure the shirt fits before you buy it. that's why shops have changing rooms.

free porn is like making sure the porn "fits" your needs before buying it. that's why you just give out samples, not the real nasty stuff inside the member's area.

01-19-2004, 06:46 AM

Does free porn destroy the market for paysites? No.

This pointless question does destroy reputations though.

If there was no profit in free porn, there would be no free porn. See the correlation?

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mike-BP
Does a movietrailer destroy the market for movies?

Well spoken.

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by BIG Movie List
i don't think so.

think of it this way, when you buy a shirt, you have to make sure the shirt fits before you buy it. that's why shops have changing rooms.

free porn is like making sure the porn "fits" your needs before buying it. that's why you just give out samples, not the real nasty stuff inside the member's area.

Ok.

But isn't there sort of a catch 22 at work here.

I mean - say that you and I are competing for customers to the same niche. Then we would both want to give away as much freely as possible in order to win the surfers from the competition.

Naughty · 01-19-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Mike-BP
Does a movietrailer destroy the market for movies?

It would if they give away th eclue every time. Sexmovies will get you satisfied in what? 5-10 minutes, tops. A real movie often keeps you there for at least 90 minutes. Now ...

A 30 second preview with often a money shot is like 5-10% of your interest. What if hollywood starts releasing 5 to 10 minute previews including the ending. Would you still pay for a theatre ticket?

Naughty · 01-19-2004, 06:51 AM

Unless it is really good, I wouldn't.

So .. I understand those who come with quality arguments now

Libertine · 01-19-2004, 06:52 AM

Does giving out free supersized Big Mac menus destroy the market for fast food?
No, but it does hurt it... severely.

There's a slight difference between giving a small preview and giving thousands upon thousands of free picture sets and 1mb+ vids, all including the blowjob, the normal fucking, anal and the facial.

The Hun alone contains more content than 99% of all paysites out there. Ofcourse that hurts paysites.

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

No, I have a problem with the lame fucker that keeps on making useless posts purely for the sake of getting his sig in.

Which lame fucker that keeps on making useless posts are you refering to?

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Does giving out free supersized Big Mac menus destroy the market for fast food?
No, but it does hurt it... severely.

There's a slight difference between giving a small preview and giving thousands upon thousands of free picture sets and 1mb+ vids, all including the blowjob, the normal fucking, anal and the facial.

The Hun alone contains more content than 99% of all paysites out there. Ofcourse that hurts paysites.

My brain went click.

I am not always that smart - previously I wasn't able to grasp the difference between "hurt the market" and "totally destroy it."

Interesting point about the hun though - why do people pay for paysites?

Libertine · 01-19-2004, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by mistersoft

Which lame fucker that keeps on making useless posts are you refering to?

johnbosch, obviously. His posts rarely contain more than a smilie or 2 words.

Milena Dickman · 01-19-2004, 06:57 AM

Hi everybody!

Ok, but let's say a surfer who has thehun. pichunter, marks bookmarks and some other big tgps in his bookmarks. Don't you think that this surfer has available to him enough free porn to wack off many times a day - every day? Why would this surfer buy anything?

I know some still do... but I think the majority cum everyday without paying a sigle cent. But it's just my

kisses,

Milena

brutus · 01-19-2004, 06:58 AM

nor market anymore - gone -

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by Milena Dickman
Hi everybody!

Ok, but let's say a surfer who has thehun. pichunter, marks bookmarks and some other big tgps in his bookmarks. Don't you think that this surfer has available to him enough free porn to wack off many times a day - every day? Why would this surfer buy anything?

I know some still do... but I think the majority cum everyday without paying a sigle cent. But it's just my

kisses,

Milena

So, does anybody know which segment of the population it is that actually pays for their internet porn? I mean - obviously VISA and other credit companies who keep customer profiles and crank their statistical number engines know this - but who in the porn biz tailor their product to the part of the population htat actually pays?

polish_aristocrat · 01-19-2004, 07:04 AM

If someone want to see pictures, he can find them for free.
If he wants to view full lenght videos, he has to pay ( or search Kazaa, bot fortunatey not everyone knows it ).
I doubt someone is still paying for pics.
They pay only for videos & live chat.

icu33774 · 01-19-2004, 07:06 AM

I would post it but my luck it would be something new and someone would come along and get a patent on it . I had it happen once in 1989. still pisses me off till this day.

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
If someone want to see pictures, he can find them for free.
If he wants to view full lenght videos, he has to pay ( or search Kazaa, bot fortunatey not everyone knows it ).
I doubt someone is still paying for pics.
They pay only for videos & live chat.

So, given that vids are the goods to sell. Doesn't it pay for every individual pornsite to give away a couple of long enough examples to draw customers there and sample their products.

"Visit CocksFromHellAndPussiesFromHeaven for a free full length video"

mistersoft · 01-19-2004, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by icu33774
I would post it but my luck it would be something new and someone would come along and get a patent on it . I had it happen once in 1989. still pisses me off till this day.

Yeah - I know that feeling, even though I never would had capitalzied on the ideas I have had.

Libertine · 01-19-2004, 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
If someone want to see pictures, he can find them for free.
If he wants to view full lenght videos, he has to pay ( or search Kazaa, bot fortunatey not everyone knows it ).
I doubt someone is still paying for pics.
They pay only for videos & live chat.

But many people do not want full length videos... they prefer the "highlights" videos that are given as samples these days.

Random gallery from the Hun, 6 vids including hardcore and cumshot:
http://www.cutegirlfriends.org/392df119/ashley.htm

Another random gallery, includes hardcore, anal & cumshot:
http://www.fvotd.com/ads/17rt/hun2.html

So why would people pay for porn vids?

seven · 01-19-2004, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by mistersoft
Yeah - I know that feeling, even though I never would had capitalzied on the ideas I have had.

I have no original ideas of my own that I could patent so I need to patent others ideas so c'mon man go get yourself some liqour and spill out few of your ideas

Milena Dickman · 01-19-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by mistersoft

So, does anybody know which segment of the population it is that actually pays for their internet porn? I mean - obviously VISA and other credit companies who keep customer profiles and crank their statistical number engines know this - but who in the porn biz tailor their product to the part of the population htat actually pays?

That would be a great info to have. Knowing these numbers we could actually know the answer to this thread: now all we can do is guess... does anyone here know how to get this info?

kisses,

Milena

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mistersoft Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,021	Does free porn destroy the market for paysites? I mean - when people can just jack off to free pics or even movies why should they be interested in paying for acces to that which is available freely? And even if you decide not to give away free porn plenty of other people are doing it. So how are you dealing with this catch 22 of porn marketing? Mistersoft __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Milena Dickman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 501	Hi everybody! Ok, but let's say a surfer who has thehun. pichunter, marks bookmarks and some other big tgps in his bookmarks. Don't you think that this surfer has available to him enough free porn to wack off many times a day - every day? Why would this surfer buy anything? I know some still do... but I think the majority cum everyday without paying a sigle cent. But it's just my kisses, Milena __________________ work hard. play hard. http://www.dickmansdesign.com MSN milenadickman at hotmail.com iCQ # 276820774

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icu33774 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,573	I would post it but my luck it would be something new and someone would come along and get a patent on it . I had it happen once in 1989. still pisses me off till this day.