I see so now your claiming its ok to show art depicting violence based on religion ONLY if the religion agrees with it collectivly ?

HAHAHAH no wonder you dont want to argue it any further. LOL

Nothing wrong with Jews.... Tons of them in the industry... Always good people...Fair, honest and trust-worthy...

And my football is in a little screen in the corner of my tv right now its called picture in picture :) its right below the cockholster banner :)

What if I make an art laughing about 9-11.... I bet not many people will laugh than...or think its art either.

I said THESE JEWS: referring to Sharon and his ambassador, in case you missed it.

Folks should realize posting on message boards require some level of comprehension and/or reading and writing ability.

Agreed. and I always make a difference between Israelis and " Jews"... Not the same ...
Dissention exist in Israel, but is not well perceived by the religious extremists .. that basically hold power now.

The ambassador was an idiot to take matters " in his own hands" as much as the organizer of the exhibition to displaying a controversial tasteless piece of " art "....

On the other hand, it is true that there will be more waves of blood in that conflict .... so shoud it be hidden?

so what's the symbolism of a pic of a suicide bomber floating in blood?
seems like that's up to interpretation, no? (making it art)

I would hope most people don't consider a "sea of blood"
a positive / proactive / pro-anything message.

Or even throw a loud speaker at it :)

But seriously the artist wasnt trying to make fun of death he was trying to show the futility of death. Theres a bit of a difference. Also art is art no matter what it is. Where someone may choose to display it , is another matter.

But no matter what happens we dont throw stuff at art , we leave or walk away or tell people why you dont like it, but you DONT act like a child and throw stuff at it. :)

So CP is art too?
Many people claim it to be. Does that make it right?

I think this thread might be a little too grown up for you.

So you would expect a US diplomat to trash such a painting (of 9/11) and to be publicly supported in this act of vandalism by Bush?

Ok now were on a different topic.

There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule , this happens to be one of them.

Back in the 70's there was lots of tastefull art that today would be called CP .

Its hard to draw that line , but thats where we as a society have made the line.

I happen to think that there is such thing as tastefull child nudity ( like the coppertan ad )

But as a society we understand that sicko's bend the rules . so we have made a line. Its hard to say if i agree or not but obviously we draw a line at sex so there is a line , i think we all agree on that. Its alot harder to find that line when referring to religion and violence :)

Sorry but there is nothing wrong with controversial art.

Man if you people could have seen the things I have seen working in museums.

I was part of a Pop Art Exhibit that featyured 3 million dollar Lichtensteins, and Warhols and Basquiat.

In that exhibit was one of the most offending pieces of work I have even (to this date) seen, and you know what, I am GLAD they had it in the exhibit, people need to see things. Art can be shocking especially art that is supposed to have a statement.

The piece I am talking about was a lifesize Jeff Koontz statue, made with real hair, and was a 4 foot tall little boy, and he had a vagina for a mouth, and was dressed in little boy clothese screaming and looking up at you with a vagina for a mouth.

People protested it, but we set it up anyway.

The reviewers came and wrote their ass off, and it was a great exhibit, you didnt HAVr to view it, it was in its own section cut off from the view of others, but EVERYONE came to see that one piece.

I have al;so shown the PissChrist and may other CONTROVERSIAl art inclusing very anti-jesus images and molds of bodies with blood and knives etc, mostly Santerian art etc, but nonetheless what is tasteless to some is art to others.

I have loved art my entire life.

it says more than politicians do thats for sure.

sorry for the ramble, on my way out the house.

art should be seen no matter the content.

He is a war criminal..the 'butcher of habra and shatilla' as some call him. He is responsible for ordering the murder of women and children at the Lebanese refugee camps when he was general in the 80's.

Of course..you don't hear about that anywhere..

50 Jews :1orglaugh

Well the kind of art the topic is about is an exception too....

LOL its a fast jew thread isnt it :)

Who ever said anything about a painting?

I think that line is alot harder to define than you think. With CP its pretty clear in most countries . No depictions of the genitals or sexual acts.

I wont quote your whole statement , but very smart :)

Although they always get you with the cp as the argument , and its hard to beat. :)

You can't compare the 2...
This is one type of line crossing and this is another.

Whatever you agree the art worked . It got alot of people to talk about the conflict ( if they already werent talking about it )

i really have no prob with controversial art, and im running in and out because im makin a tasty steak mmm steak.

but sometimes certain art does cross the line. itd be hard for me to fully comment if i saw the big picture of the art.

but with the basis line of it depicting a pro msg towards suicide bombers that i am against.

I just did compare the 2 :)

Its totally different . How do you POLICE art ? How would you make the guidlines ?

Take all art and display it in front of ambassadors for various countries and see if any of them throw something at it ?

When art is offending a large group of people that have been is a tragedy.... this is the line.

Thats not quite definitive enough.

So you would have people vote on it ?

Who is to say a large group of people are offended ?

Im offended by tampon commercials on TV and im sure i could get every man along with me on that one. :) but i dont think ill be getting tampon commercials banned anytime soon just because it offends me :)


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Besides that fact your assuming everyone gets the same message from the art that you do.

Everyone interprets art in their own way :)

What the fuck kind of ref's do they have in this game damnit.

What a pointless thread.

It's like battle of the 'tards in here.

You just won the KING TARD award :) The most prolific tard in the thread so far. :)

Indeed

so Lord of the Rings part 2 : the two towers should have been scrapped because it offended people sensitive to 9/11?

Ok, I just posted an old thread. lol

:1orglaugh

First, the guy who made that piece of art is Israeli born and he didn't do it as a pro-suicide bombing thing. I mean look at it, it shows you how sad the whole thing is. A face floating in a pool of blood isn't exactly what I'd call making fun.

So if your porn is offending a large group of people, you'll stop doing it?

The news will KEEP insisting the art GLORIFIED suicide bombers when it in fact did not, and Sharon will continue to say it was anti-semitism.

always pulling the anti-semitie card.

fucking retards.

""I called our ambassador in Sweden Zvi Mazel last night and thanked him for his strength in dealing with increasing anti-Semitism, and told him that the entire government stands behind him," Sharon told a cabinet meeting Sunday.

"I think Ambassador Mazel behaved in an appropriate way," he added."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...how/431727.cms

at least they have him on tape too.

So the Israeli artist is an anti-semite now? :)

yeah, i was going to begin sending you some design work.

don't worry about it though, wouldnt want you to be corrupted by any of my jew money.

Yes it does...providing you are willing to pay whatever consequences that may follow your act of destruction. People make similar choices to destroy on a daily basis...even the destruction of life...nothing new about destruction.

Hmmm... let me see - the woman in the exhibit killed 21 men, women and children in Israel, for no reason other than the fact that she had been brainwashed and they were Jews - I dont remember Martin Luther King killing anyone.

The Israelli ambassador reacted the way any person living with so much murder and tragedy in his homeland might have reacted - he snapped and for a moment lost his control, it was an honest reaction fueled by the actions of many in the world in which he lives.

Who knows how any of us would have reacted if we had to live with a daily dose of murder and death.

I certainly dont think that asking such a person to respect an art exhibit is a sane thing to do or to expect.

sad.

did you even bother reading the thread or would you rather be a dick and try and say I am anti-jew?

get a clue hooper.

if you are this kind of person, I really dont need your business man.

find someone else.