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I've done a lot of reading on this subject, and have been on the "diet" (lifestyle change) since 03/03. I've lost 45 pounds in less than 6 months, and haven't put it back on. I don't get hungry, don't have cravings I can't handle. I do give myself "treats"..but I learned to eat SENSIBLY along with working out. I'm comming up on 1 year and I'm not about to change my dietary habits. |
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Atkins and all of the people who write the cookbooks, diet books that are carb related EMPHASIS the need for excercise and working out. IF people are not working out..it's not because Atkins says there is no need to..it's because they are badly uninformed or poorly motivated to work out. But then that's true of ANY diet, not just Atkins. |
Atkins is great. The long-term key is to get past induction and work enough good carbs (those with lower glycemic impact) into your diet so you stick with it. This is the ultimate challenge. Sure, people who go back to pounding the simple carbs (sugar, white flour, rice, pasta, potatoes) are gonna gain it right back - just like with any diet. People who only do Atkins hardcore (meat, cheese, eggs) to drop some quick weight are always gonna have trouble with yo-yoing because that kind of diet is not maintainable. Also, I don't think any Atkins follower woud ever say that exercise and healthy living isn't important.
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I am not a fan of atkins. Everyone I have seen go on it, put weight back on. I lost 50+ lbs 2 years ago and have kept it off. Simple, low fat, cardio.
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I ended up taking it off with atkins and then keeping it off with moderately watching what I eat, and working a little. Strong emphasis on working out a little.:thumbsup
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it's amazing how lazy people can't understand this. healthy diet & cardio is all you need!:glugglug oh, and Centurion.... you better not get too worked up over this thread here hon. you might just have a coronary.:1orglaugh :321GFY |
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It's amazing how lazy people like yourself can't understand that there are several ways to lose weight. But then, some people like yourself reach a limit on learning at about age 8 I believe. |
Atkins works, my mom lost a lot of weight on it when she started in this summer. I too am thinking about hopping on it as a lifestyle change, I am thin, but I like the health aspect of it.
As for market4s - If I was a personal trainer, I would be talking hella shit about the Atkins diet too! If people can get thinner without your help, then you aren't getting paid, and you become worthless. |
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bro, i wake up at 6 am every morning and run 8 miles... when i'm done running I go to work.... when i'm done working I hit the gym... when i get back from the gym I fuck my hot girlfriend.... then i go party and drink beer. YES BEER! Because I work my ass off all day I can eat/drink whatever I want, whenever I want. I've worked with people that have come off atkins. Were they skinny? Yeah, sometimes. I'll tell you one thing though... they all had one common trait. J E L L O for muscles! Atkins causes muscle loss and that is FACT! I'm done arguing this with you. It's obvious that your not open to any GOOD advice. Good luck to you.... maybe someday you'll see the light.:winkwink: |
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Your confusing being skinny with being in shape. Two totally different things. Atkins will make you skinny, sure. Exersise however will get you in shape.:winkwink: |
Keep in mind a few things.
"you will gain it back when you eat NORMAL again"" Yes, this is true. If you go back to eating a High carb diet and making poor food choices you will gain the weight back. "Atkins is a lifestyle." Damn right it is. and I would suggest anyone who is going to try this lifestyle to spend a couple of dollars and by the book. It explains everything in great detail . If your gonna spend the money might as well know what to buy. I am down from 235 to 175 has been off for 18months. This way of life started working for me when I stopped listening to others , read the book, and followed the directions. it's not hard, you just need to be commited. I eat well, I work out, I feel better than ever and have never had a problem.. Old diet. breakfast: Then- Frosted Flakes NOW_ Bacon and Eggs/w cheese Snack: Then-Bag of Chips NOw- Pepperoni Lunch: Then _ Big Mac Fries and coke NOW- Hot Wings and Ice Tea Dinner- Then- Hamburger fucking Helper, veggie, bread, NOw- Steak- greenbeans- and whole wheat. Snack- Then- Big Ass bowl of Ice Cream NOW- Big Ass Bowl of Atkins Low Carb Ice Cream. And about 64oz of water a day. I am not starving. but if I chose to change back eating like the fat fuck I was............I would gain the weight back. And I wouldn't be able to blame Atkins for it. |
I like guys with some muscle on them.:Graucho
Atkins is for wimps. :2 cents: |
this fucking diet is tough, ive tried it UNINFORMED ... but then my brother did it right, read all the shit, its amazing the shit you can eat ... and after you lose the amount you want you can increase daily carbs and hopefully realize its important to get excercise. my bro lost serious fucking weight, and looks HAPPY again ;)
i think there should be some moderation in everything, but if you really inform yourself about the shit you can eat and do this right it does work, who gives a flying fuck if its not 100% healthy, what is? eating fatburgers every day? if you are smart about it instead of living off bacon then it seems fairly healthy and balanced to me. id rather take a few years off my life and not be a sack of shit. |
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Do you still subscribe to the FDA food pyramid? Even the most anti-Atkins nutritionists have been forced to rethink past ideas, and now conceed that simple carbs (white foods) are bad. Other popular diets (South Beach, Zone, Sugar Busters) are simply derivative of Atkins, and disguise themselves so people can pretend their not relly following Atkins. The number one thing that reduces the risk of a variety diseases is weight loss. So, losing weight all by itself is better than staying fat but hitting the treadmill everyday. Reducing simple sugar intake has shown to greatly improve cholesterol levels, blood pressure, arterioscelorsis, C reactive protein (inflammation) and blood sugar levels(diabetics), in addition to excess weight. |
i've been on this diet for about 3 months now.
i haven't lost any weight, but i sure look thinner and feel healthier. |
Mack describes it best and probably knows more about nutrition through eating right than the best government educated, fitness training guru on the planet.
If you don't like a diet based on low carbs it's because it busts your bubble. |
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good luck with it. It worked great, but I sure got sick of eating the same foods.
However its very easy to put the weight back on soon as you come off it. Much better to just eat better and limit your calories under 1500 if you can a day. |
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
If you want real science vs. profiteering, there you go. Food types have something called a glycemic load. The people mentioning maintaining glucose levels, carbs play a role in that, but so does saturated fat and a bunch of other factors. I'll take Harvard over a multi-million dollar marketing machine for objective opinions on diet and health. - Titus |
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I have been bodybuilding/nutrition most of my life and watched and tried most trends that have come along through the years. Nutrition for weightloss is one of the most argued subjects out there. Even within the educated medical community.
Extremes in any form are not good. The secret is BALANCE. Exercise, eat balanced don't over-eat don't under-eat. Find something that works for you and your lifestyle and stick with it. -Tony |
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It's no coincidence that nearly all nutritionists and dieticians say the Atkins diet is a recipe for disaster because of the extremely high fat intake many people decide to consume. Atkins, for the record, did have a heart attack, but claimed it had nothing to do with his diet. He died when he slipped on some ice. When the only people telling you a diet is good are the ones making money off it, you need to carefully consider what they are saying (Ephedra, anyone?). Pay close attention to peer review, and studies that replicate original findings. Or just buy into the diet that lets you eat hot wings. - Titus |
The Brad diet:
Don't eat more than the allowed calories in a day Don't eat fast food Drink water Walk every once in awhile if I followed my own advice I'd be healthy. :thumbsup |
Hehe, its funny watching people get heated up over what other people eat :)
I dont care about the fat fucks eating at mcdicks. What bugs me is that my tax dollars will eventually pay for their hospital bills and health problems. OH well. I dont like extremes. I've read the atkins diet, I've read the zone diet, I've read about all sorts of shit and know more about nutrition then I ever needed to. Don't over eat Eat lots of veggies Don't make potatoes/rice/pasta/breads/etc the main course Eat some protein with every meal, preferably a low fat source of protein like fish, chicken, tofu Eat smaller meals more often - like every 3-4 hours Diet isnt everything tho. You gotta get off the computer chair and move around a bit. Try stretching for 15-20 mins a night. Take a walk. Just that makes a big difference. Want more energy? Go to the gym 2-3 times per week and do an anaerobic (with weights) work out for 30-45 mins... ask the trainer at the gym to show you a decent workout routine. Most people I know on the atkins diet had problems and gained the weight back or never lost any because the doctor just said "go on the atkins diet". People are dumb, gloss over the major points of the diet (atkins says exercise is good for you, why does no one on the atkins diet workout?) and see that atkins says they can eat steak and bacon so they chow down on tons of bacon and shit and complain when they dont lose any weight or feel sick. Dumbasses. |
so the (2) yes two, full racks of tony roma's ribs, bbq chicken leg, 2 bowls of baked beans, 3 orders of loaded potatoe skins, french toast with tons of syrup and 12 pepsi's i had yesterday would bea bad thing I guess?
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Well, I'm off to the supermarket to buy some more meat.
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Not saying Atkins doesn't work for a lot of people, but consider this. In third world countries, obesity is unusual. They life almost EXCLUSIVELY on carbs (rice) and have low heart disease, cancer, etc.
Once they get westernized and put a McDonalds on every corner, obesity (and its health risks) skyrocket. Also, I like to take a scientific approach to all things. There isn't any evidence that long term Atkins is healthy, but there are dozens of conclusive studys that fat causes all sorts of bad things from breast cancer to colon cancer, heart disease, etc. I recently went on a lifestyle change, based on common sense. 40 minutes a day workout, and around 1500 calories, mosty low-fat, and ignoring carb intake. (You can't really ignore carbs though, because the bad ones have so many calories). After a month I lost 15 lbs, and more importantly, its a diet and lifestyle I can maintain for life, where most people on trendy diets can maintain it for only a month or two. You just need to use common sense. Look back no further to when I was a kid, and obesity was relatively rare. Everyone ate smaller portions though, we all walked a lot more, and fast food was a rare treat, maybe once every couple weeks or so. Schools never served soda or fries, and we ate 95% home cooked UNPROCESSED foods. That is all that is needed to stay fit in my opinion, common sense and a major lifestyle change, albeit one that is not that hard to make and very easy to live with. |
I agree with Saint. If people are disciplined enough to stick to some complicated diet, why cant they just be disciplined enough to simply eat a healthy normal well balanced diet and get exercise.
This is a stupid thing to appeal to lazy americans that want to lose their blubber without doing work. Other countries like in Asia would probalby laugh their ass off about this atkins stuff. |
I wish people would stop confusing the number on the scale with healthiness.
I used to lift weights intensely for 2 years and kept on a strict diet. My weight was around 190lbs. I have since stopped, softened up, and rarely make it to the gym. I weigh 176. I am DEFINATELY less healthy now than I was before, but that MAGICAL NUMBER ON THE SCALE IS LESS! That's why I cringe when I see about these "fad" diets. I totally agree with the fact that you lose "weight", but at what cost? This diet has been around since the 70's. If it was so good for the body, don't you think that most doctors would reccomend it? It just falls right into our north american "fast food" mentality. Everything needs to be instant. "What? You started going to the gym, eating right, and only lost 6 pounds this month? Well Suzy Bigtits on my street lost 13 on the Atkins in a month! Why are you wasting your time?" Kudos to anyone who has gotten a new lease on life due to the Atkins diet, and changed their lifestyle. But please don't confuse that number on the scale with how healthy you are. |
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