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Gspothottie 01-16-2004 08:21 AM

Atkins diet is extrememly hard on the body and can cause liver or kidney failure...I would think twice about it but good luck either way I guess

market4s 01-16-2004 08:21 AM

Sure... atkins works! So does a heavy coke habit! You may loose weight, but it sure as hell isn't good for your body!

Try a HEALTHY diet... and a little EXERCISE!


Fuckin lazy people... YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD FOR RESULTS!

:2 cents:

MadCap 01-16-2004 08:23 AM

Good luck fat ass.



Oh wait.





I right with ya :helpme

com 01-16-2004 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s
Sure... atkins works! So does a heavy coke habit! You may loose weight, but it sure as hell isn't good for your body!

Try a HEALTHY diet... and a little EXERCISE!


Fuckin lazy people... YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD FOR RESULTS!

:2 cents:

hahah, ive never had to try a diet and always avoided a coke habbit... however I find comfort in a steady diet of a shitload of good red meat, and dark beer. Now if this is gonna kill me sooner then my overactive metabolism... then bring it... just let me die with a medium rare porterhouse in my mouth

Paul -C- 01-16-2004 08:30 AM

Good luck with the diet, just make sure you eat sensible portions.

As long as you're careful with what you eat once you come off it you won't put the weight back on.

Odie 01-16-2004 08:34 AM

what ever happened to exercise and eating healthy???

I understand that it's too late for some ppl but it truly is a lifestyle choice. lots of cardio and water will help u lose weight alot faster...

people automatically think that starting a diet and changing their eating habits is all they need to do but without exercise all that excess skin just hangs and sags...u need to turn that fat into muscle as well...:2 cents:

Corona 01-16-2004 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspothottie
Atkins diet is extrememly hard on the body and can cause liver or kidney failure...I would think twice about it but good luck either way I guess

Total bullshit!

Could you explain how this is hard on the body?

DarkJedi 01-16-2004 08:36 AM

atkins tards make beef prices unafforable :ak47:

Sarah_Jayne 01-16-2004 08:39 AM

good luck...ww next monday

Video-Post 01-16-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
atkins tards make beef prices unafforable :ak47:
I only eat premium steaks.

woj 01-16-2004 08:40 AM

50lbs to lose

Video-Post 01-16-2004 08:41 AM

50 fatsos http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-016.gif

Video-Post 01-16-2004 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by woj
50lbs to lose
Doh! It wouldn't let me post because of the 45 sec limit.

GonePhishing 01-16-2004 08:49 AM

Good luck man! I did the Atkins diet a couple years ago, and it totally worked. I went from 185lbs to 140lbs.:thumbsup

Best part is, I managed to keep it off without needing to diet again.

market4s 01-16-2004 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Corona



Total bullshit!

Could you explain how this is hard on the body?

You honestly think this is bullshit???

You think sending your body into "survival mode" is healthy???



Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. This is why you loose weight. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle! That's right! While your shedding lbs of fat, your also becoming a WEAKLING! Your muscles go into a cannibalistic state and they become your source of energy because at this point your EXTREMELY malnutritioned!

I've seen many people go on this Atkins diet.... all have lost 20-60lbs each... and guess what??? As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!

You people are fooling yourselves thinking that a diet of steak and cheese is going to make you a healthy person.

Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.

You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!

:2 cents:

Corona 01-16-2004 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s


Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle!

Wrong. Putting your body into Ketosis is not the same as starving yourself and so does not consume muscle.


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As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!

You mean that as soon as someone resumes eating in a way that made them fat in the first place they will get fat again? Amazing.


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Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.

You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!

Who said you can't do both?

eroswebmaster 01-16-2004 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Corona


EVERYTHING YOU SAID!


:thumbsup

Steelhead 01-16-2004 09:29 AM

Look for a better alternative. Atkins will definitely take the pounds off, but will kill your energy leve along the way. As soon as you try to go back to a more balanced diet... kaboom! you gain all your weight back and then some.

don't do it.

Corona 01-16-2004 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Steelhead
Look for a better alternative. Atkins will definitely take the pounds off, but will kill your energy leve along the way. As soon as you try to go back to a more balanced diet... kaboom! you gain all your weight back and then some.

don't do it.

The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.

If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.

market4s 01-16-2004 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Corona



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Originally posted by market4s


Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle!
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Wrong. Putting your body into Ketosis is not the same as starving yourself and so does not consume muscle.



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As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!

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You mean that as soon as someone resumes eating in a way that made them fat in the first place they will get fat again? Amazing.



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Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.

You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!
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Who said you can't do both?


You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.

Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.:1orglaugh

Corona 01-16-2004 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s



You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.

Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.:1orglaugh


Show me where I am wrong.

Ic3m4nZ 01-16-2004 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Video-Post
For breakfast I had 5 eggs, 4 steaks Tartar, a pack of cheese and a salami. Somehow I doubt that this "diet" works but hey I'll give it a shot and my fatso guts is loving it :)

Gotta lose like 5-10 kilos (11-22 lbs) :(

If you don't go at the gym you'll regain those 5-10 kilos after. There's no special secret method to lose weight. Hit the gym to lose weight or gain muscle is the best thing to do.

com 01-16-2004 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s



You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.

Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.:1orglaugh

listen up asshat, doesn't matter what your build is, unless you have a miserable metabolism, you want to have at LEAST 1.5 grams of protein entering your system per pound of body weight when working out. now, that aside, carbs turn into glucose which gets stored in fat cells if not burned off. maybe you should quit as a part time trainer and I take over

axelcat 01-16-2004 10:08 AM

Be careful I really think that diet is dangerous

market4s 01-16-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corona


The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.

If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.

WRONG AGAIN!

Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.

Yo-yo dieting messes up your metabolism, and may even raise the levels of harmful cholesterol in the blood, increasing your risk of arterial disease and heart problems.

Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!

Get a CLUE before spouting info like it's fact. Sure, you may have "results" with Atkins... but it sure as hell is the WRONG way to go about getting healthy!

Good luck, your going to need it. Oh, and watch out for high blood pressure, because your at SERIOUS risk of a heart attack before 40 with your methodology.


:thumbsup

KRL 01-16-2004 10:15 AM

The Atkins diet works by reducing the carb intake. Most friends I've seen try it have dropped 15 to 20 lbs. However its very hard to stay on indefinitely, and usually by about 3 to 6 months the cravings overwhelm the mind because now that they are skinnier they think ok I have room for some carbs again and they go right back where they were before.

market4s 01-16-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by com


listen up asshat, doesn't matter what your build is, unless you have a miserable metabolism, you want to have at LEAST 1.5 grams of protein entering your system per pound of body weight when working out. now, that aside, carbs turn into glucose which gets stored in fat cells if not burned off. maybe you should quit as a part time trainer and I take over

Did I say it mattered what your build was??? Furthermore did I say anything about getting enough protein???

Try reading my post next time before opening your mouth. mmmmk?:321GFY



Belive whatever the hell you want... Just know this one truth. Crash diets may work for a short period of time. However the only way to be healthy and stay healthy is through a good diet and exercise.

Diet & exercise... what's so hard to comprehend about this? You really think these extreme diets are the way to go???

I feel sorry for ya'll as you'll never make it past they yo-yo faze into good health with this mindset.

Corona 01-16-2004 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s


WRONG AGAIN!

You have not shown that I am wrong once let alone wrong again.


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Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.

You really have no idea of what you are talking about. After reaching the weight you want you slowly increase your carbs to a point where you are not losing any more but are not gaining. How is that going to make you fat again?


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Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!



You are so full of shit.


The notion that the Atkins will force your body to break down muscle is incorrect. Only individuals on very low-calorie diets can lose muscle mass, because they have an inadequate protein intake.

So long as you have extra body fat, ketosis is safe and natural. There is nothing harmful, abnormal or dangerous about ketosis.


Philadelphia., PA -- A 3-center study led by researchers at the Weight and Eating Disorders Program of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine reports the results of the first controlled trial of the Atkins Diet. The Atkins Diet limits carbohydrates but permits unrestricted amounts of protein and fat. Compared to a conventional, high- carbohydrate, low-calorie approach, Atkins dieters lost twice as much weight at 3 and 6 months but there was no difference between the groups at 1 year. Despite the lack of differences in weight loss at 1 year, the Atkins dieters had significantly greater increases in good cholesterol (HDL) and greater decreases in triglycerides.


The study, to be published in the May 22 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, was led by Gary Foster, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Clinical Director of the Weight and Eating Disorders Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Samuel Klein, MD of Washington University in St. Louis and James Hill, Ph.D. and Holly Wyatt, M.D. of the University of Colorado were the lead investigators at the other centers.

eroswebmaster 01-16-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Corona



Show me where I am wrong.

I stopped wasting my time on these kinds of threads...especially when a "physical trainer," tries to dispell what a Doctor was able to prove over the course of many years *decades even ;) * so don't even try.

Honestly I don't understand why people are worried about how other's diet, lose weight etc.

Why not try to focus more on the positive aspects of their attempts?

eroswebmaster 01-16-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s

The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!

You are sadly mistaken. Many health care professional *read doctors* are starting to notice the benefits of this diet.

So with that I bow out of this thread, because you have shown either 1. Your ignorance. 2. Your prejudice, or both.

Odie 01-16-2004 11:15 AM

market4s is not completely wrong in his thinking. I agree with him where eating healthy and proper exercise is the best way to go...alot of ppl think that once they're on the atkins diet that's all they have to do. eating properly is great! but u also need to exercise in order to maintain the weight loss and get blood flowing and muscles working as well...:2 cents:

SFBU 01-16-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Whoa dude! It's one thing to limit carbs..but it's another to overkill on total calories!

Atkins doesn't give you license to eat all you want of certain types of food. It just asks you to LIMIT the amount of carbs you intake..especially during the first 2-3 weeks of the diet, so your body will start burning fat instead of carbs.

So make it 2-3 eggs max & maybe ONE steak tartar for breakfast. Eat sensibly..and remember to try and keep your carb intake to or under 20 grams daily for the first 2-3 weeks.

Good luck on the diet!

What this says is correct-o-mundo! I have lost 35 lbs of ugly since my wife and I started and she has lost more! It works if you read the book and do it right.

Keep up the good work:thumbsup

SleazeQueen 01-16-2004 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s
Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous.
Um.. I disagree. I'm diabetic and I have to watch consumption of any carbs because they spike my blood sugar. I've read Dr. Atkins' books. Have you?

His diet is often misinterpreted. It's not about eating 5 lbs of bacon a day, it's about restricting carbs. The first 2 weeks are pretty extreme, but then you move on to eating more vegetables.

You don't have to eat bacon and pork fat. You can eat chicken and fish and other low fat meats.

I'm replacing my white flour carbs with veggie carbs. I'm replacing white starches with whole grains. I'm eating more meat instead of more carbs. My doctor says I'm 100% on track and my blood test results echo that.

It's not an easy, quick fix, but it's better than eating a big bowl of pasta and taking more glucophage like the US Food Pyramid wants me to do.

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfire
Dr. Atkins himself died of a heart attack...
Another fucktard offers up totally false information.

He died from a FALL ON THE ICE when he hit his head causing severe brain damage!! DOH!:BangBang:

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by com


im not on the atkins diet.. i have always had an excuciatingly high meat intake. if i was on atkins i probably shouldnt have a double serving of hash browns either. im 5'10" 145 pounds without working out, and i jump up to 175 when working out after 2 months... so im keeping myself stable

Do you know how many people on gfy now hate your ass for this!? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Some people have all the luck!

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspothottie
Atkins diet is extrememly hard on the body and can cause liver or kidney failure...I would think twice about it but good luck either way I guess
Uh huh uh huh...just waltz in here and tell us something with no supporting evidence.

Hitler and Elvis have are living in your attic too these days aren't they?

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s
Sure... atkins works! So does a heavy coke habit! You may loose weight, but it sure as hell isn't good for your body!

Try a HEALTHY diet... and a little EXERCISE!


Fuckin lazy people... YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD FOR RESULTS!

:2 cents:

And the invasion of the "I don't know nothin and I'm going to post to prove it!" clones!!

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corona


The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.

If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.

Right on! :thumbsup

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s



You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.

Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.:1orglaugh

Maybe you should actually read and learn about what the Atkins diet is really about before you go posting again!

Centurion 01-16-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by market4s


WRONG AGAIN!

Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.

Yo-yo dieting messes up your metabolism, and may even raise the levels of harmful cholesterol in the blood, increasing your risk of arterial disease and heart problems.

Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!

Get a CLUE before spouting info like it's fact. Sure, you may have "results" with Atkins... but it sure as hell is the WRONG way to go about getting healthy!

Good luck, your going to need it. Oh, and watch out for high blood pressure, because your at SERIOUS risk of a heart attack before 40 with your methodology.


:thumbsup

You're like Bush... "Iraq helped the terrorists attack us on 9/11!"

MISINFORMATION!

"WHEN you leave this diet..you get all the weight back!"

WHEN you leave ANY diet and are not working out...OF COURSE you gain the weight back. DOH!

As has been pointed out here..this is a LIFESTYLE change..so pople change HOW and WHAT they eat and continue on leading a normal life and are simply modifying their carb intake!


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