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com 01-16-2004 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent


Moose why not firewall his ips so he can't run his scripts. I agree with you 100% this script has major flows in it and can damage reputation. Just my :2 cents:

I personaly do not want to have to blacklist his IP off 400+ servers in our one local datacenter. Let alone anywhere else. Choker needs to either make his code public so we can locate and resolve any problems in the logic behind it or cease to decist. This is BS, from a technical standpoint that is.

com 01-16-2004 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy
Ok, I didn't sit up all night thinking about this, but this just came to me.

List the SITES name that is being monitored ALONG with the hosting companies name. That way if ALL the sites hosted by one company were showing downtime, you could be pretty sure it was a hosting issue and not the owner of imadufas.com messing with his dns settings again.


myjah 01-16-2004 07:52 AM

nice - i likes alot! good idea!

com 01-16-2004 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by myjah
nice - i likes alot! good idea!
awesome idea, terrible implimentation

dirtysouth 01-16-2004 08:41 AM

Phatservers is golden in my book. I've leased a dedicated box from them for several months now and have had no problems whatsoever. Average response time to support request is 20 minutes. Took a real beating over new years with a video gallery hun listing AND I got FARKED the same day. Not one hiccup or decrease in performance. :thumbsup

senseidru 01-16-2004 09:11 AM

I also believe this is a bad idea and misleading for the visitor. I understand you have a disclaimer thing that explains it all but most people wont read that, the table is showing downtime for hosts, not for individual sites. I think this is a very bad idea.

Rocky 01-16-2004 09:39 AM

i'm either dyslexic or need glasses

cause everytime i read betterbeup.com my brain tells me that the domain is buttercup.com
:uhoh

Choker 01-16-2004 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
Moose and another thing, he is displaying Phatservers name on his website, which without your consent he can not do.

If a webmaster wants to monitor his sites with a script that's fine let the webmaster display uptime of his/her domain.

I smell whole bunch of lawsuites comming

:Graucho

Please show me a precedent that says I have to have a sites permission to link to them.

Choker 01-16-2004 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy
Ok, I didn't sit up all night thinking about this, but this just came to me.

List the SITES name that is being monitored ALONG with the hosting companies name. That way if ALL the sites hosted by one company were showing downtime, you could be pretty sure it was a hosting issue and not the owner of imadufas.com messing with his dns settings again.

I have considered this. Problem is the sheer number of domains being monitored. If we can come up with a solution using this method.

RockDaddy 01-16-2004 09:44 AM

Damn, Webair is down 18% of the time :helpme

RockDaddy 01-16-2004 09:49 AM

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I have considered this. Problem is the sheer number of domains being monitored. If we can come up with a solution using this method.
I dont' know. You are using a database surely, use some grouping and sorting functions. Next to each host, place a link to sort the sites listed on that host, then people can get the bigger, whole picture. ??? Just one idea.

And try to have it divide the total time down by the number of sites hosted so that you are comparing apples to apples.

You reset all numbers late last night to zero yet it LOOKS like webair has been monitored quite a bit longer and has a lot more downtime when actually they just have more sites being monitored.

You can do it :thumbsup

webair 01-16-2004 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy
Damn, Webair is down 18% of the time :helpme
This system is obviously false and misleading at best...Do you think if we had been down for 12 hours there wouldn't be complaints all over this board about it? =))

An indication that this system is flawed is choker stated that he reset the program to zero last night it now says Webair has been down for 12 hours, 12 hours hasn't elapsed yet =) according to my watch at least =) ... Not to mention had phat servers been down for as many hours as previously reported don't you think someone would have flamed them all over GFY?

Anyhow, it's obvious that this is technology unreliable...If anyone uses this to choose a host they are silly, as they are relying on UNRELIABLE INFORMATION. I honestly don't know what they are monitoring but I for one am happy it's not accurate or the phones would have been off the hook last night =)

In my opinion if it's not monitoring network uptime its useless. There are several other reputable monitoring services that are offering valid, tested, monitoring technology. I suggest using something that offers reliable information.

I have used this one in the past and its been pretty accurate: http://www.internetseer.com/

DR_PHIL 01-16-2004 10:39 AM

The proof will be in the his own stats if the program works or not. For example he has both rackshack and ev1(same company lol). Now lets see if they keep the same downtime or if most of the downtime occurs with dumbasses killing their machines. If that is the case, the system will not be useful.

webair 01-16-2004 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by DR_PHIL
The proof will be in the his own stats if the program works or not. For example he has both rackshack and ev1(same company lol). Now lets see if they keep the same downtime or if most of the downtime occurs with dumbasses killing their machines. If that is the case, the system will not be useful.

well we won't know now that you gave it away :winkwink:

RockDaddy 01-16-2004 10:44 AM

Webair, easy solution.
Just set up one box with 100 virtual sites on it with 100 of these scripts to monitor. Your downtime will be very low quick and look like you've been monitored for years. :thumbsup

Choker 01-16-2004 11:05 AM

I will either list the ips of each host being monitored under thier name and list each ips downtime

or

I will just take the stats page down. The stats page showing the hosts uptime is not even what this porgram is about. How many of you that are complaining have even seen the page that a user sees?

>>>>> http://betterbeup.com/ch_04/webmaste...ains&user=demo

This is what this program is all about.

I really do not have time for anymore of this shit. I did not realize that so many webmasters can look at the stats page and not understand that it does not necesarily reflect that hosts network.
I make jackshit off this program and cannot spare time defending this program. If you want to use it fine, if not that's fine too.

RockDaddy 01-16-2004 11:26 AM

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How many of you that are complaining have even seen the page that a user sees?

>>>>> http://betterbeup.com/ch_04/webmast...mains&user=demo
I hadn't, looks good.
You are not defending anything as far as I'm concerned. I'm just fucking around right now. Most people are always looking for weak points and ways to make something better. If that doesn't describe you, sorry. No harm meant.


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