Sales Reps Do You Need Them? - GoFuckYourself.com

Digipimp · 01-15-2004, 02:27 PM

The places you use and promote to make the most money do they have sales reps that you use or do you do it all on your own. Isn't a much better more organized site more helpful to you? Or do you find that the sales reps are a big help to you? Personally I pretty much avoid them at all costs most of the time, although there are a few that are really on top of things and can be a big help but they are in the minority.

Steve · 01-15-2004, 02:41 PM

Not only do I not contact them, but I find them irritating when they contact me.

I realise that their job is to generate traffic/sales, though, and for this reason I always try to be cordial. But guess what? If I am not sending traffic, I either dont like the results, or I haven't gotten to you just yet. Dunning me for hits is not a good way to get me to put up your links.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-15-2004, 02:43 PM

Sales reps make companies look stupid online.
Thats why ya see em jump from company to company.

Sales rep is sort of an Irony.
If they were any good at acual sales they wouldnt need to be a sales "Rep" dont ya think?

Digipimp · 01-15-2004, 02:45 PM

I wish with the money they spend on sales reps alot of these places would fix up their tours, add more content, fill out the member area and build a better more helpful affiliate site.

It's also fun to see big quality programs with 2 sales reps and smaller shitty spammers with 8 hot girls probably all getting commission type pay and making almost nothing.

WiredGuy · 01-15-2004, 02:54 PM

Not usually, but when I do, I usually need a technical answer, not a sales answer. I'm already sold on the sponsors I use, I need techie questions answered if anything at this point.

WG

Tofu · 01-15-2004, 03:02 PM

I LoVe Reps! I bend over backward for my webmasters, and they know I will do whatever to ensure that they get what they need to make money. Even if it means buggin the shit outta Lensman...

Oracle Porn · 01-15-2004, 03:03 PM

I use some of them. Some of them are so lazy its not even funny.

dantheman · 01-15-2004, 03:17 PM

I'm a rep and proud of it. Wanta buy something?

okny · 01-15-2004, 03:23 PM

I think if you run an affiliate program you need sales rep's because there is only so much one person can do, plus webmasters always need something and in this case the sales rep can provide them with what they need.

Raven · 01-15-2004, 03:29 PM

I think much depends on the rep....

There was one, whose name I won't mention and is long gone..who never looked at my sites, wouldn't have known how to build or market a site if he fell over it...and all he wanted was my traffic....period...

I've had several reps who really looked out for me and answered my questions....

I just wish these companies who have them would hire people who know webmastering to some degree....know marketing and sales....and not be so drunk or drugged in Vegas or elsewhere that they can't remember their own name, let alone mine.'

There are uses for sales reps..or marketing reps....when a sponsor goes out of their way to pay for advertising, their reps should take the effort to post on the board and contribute...these newbies and even veterans do take note of those who are available and those who are only interested in partying in Vegas.....

wtfent · 01-15-2004, 03:38 PM

If you work smartly you really dont need much help to run an online business until your doing in excess of 10,000 a month.

wtfent · 01-15-2004, 03:40 PM

On my worse day I will get 10,000 visits and I did that all on my own without the help of any team and I did not even have a computer 2 years ago, so If I could do it so can you.

Chris E · 01-15-2004, 04:48 PM

They totally have their use!

Wiseman · 01-15-2004, 04:59 PM

I am the only Rep we have over at Quickbuck and Conversioncash..
I mean Hooper helps people as well....
But we are both workaholics so we arent to hard to get ahold of...
But Hooper is an asshole so noone really likes tyo work with him so thats where I come in!!

But someone up above said that if a Sales rep was truly a good sales rep they wouldnt have to be a sales rep....
He is fucking IGNORANT!! Just because you are one hell of a rep doesnt mean you know or understand what all it takes to run a program...
I handle 90% of the People to people sides of the buisness and Hooper handles all the technical side of shit..
If I had to fucking handle the programers and handle technical problems at 3 in the morning when shit went wrong our programs would not last!!!
And if Hooper was the one to deal with all the clients when they had a problem our programs also would not last!!
No one would use us!! You can only take someone with shitty people skills for so long.... =)

XxXotic · 01-15-2004, 05:01 PM

sales reps are definitely needed, but it seems that most of them in this business really dont know what theyre doing. Doesn't apply to all, but most.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-15-2004, 05:15 PM

"He is fucking IGNORANT!! Just because you are one hell of a rep doesnt mean you know or understand what all it takes to run a program... "

You call me ignorant then back peddle with a follow up statement that that is contradictory?
If one does not know exactly what they are selling they ought not sell it!

I run circles around sales rep's. Maybe some are good but MOST got no clue and confuse it with marketing while others believe they are an art director...

Please save it bro, if you dont know what works in the field and exactly why it works then ya got no business selling it.

Just my opinion, I aint saying you suck... I didint call you ignorant...
But damn you just fucked your self calling a potential client Ignorant then looking stupid with a excuse that is contradictory for the reasons why!

WTF...

Like I said...

Most sales reps make companies look stupid.

myjah · 01-15-2004, 05:17 PM

had several unpleasant experiences with them. at the same time, i think most companies can't do without them

Wiseman · 01-15-2004, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
"He is fucking IGNORANT!! Just because you are one hell of a rep doesnt mean you know or understand what all it takes to run a program... "

You call me ignorant then back peddle with a follow up statement that that is contradictory?
If one does not know exactly what they are selling they ought not sell it!

I run circles around sales rep's. Maybe some are good but MOST got no clue and confuse it with marketing while others believe they are an art director...

Please save it bro, if you dont know what works in the field and exactly why it works then ya got no business selling it.

Just my opinion, I aint saying you suck... I didint call you ignorant...
But damn you just fucked your self calling a potential client Ignorant then looking stupid with a excuse that is contradictory for the reaons why!

WTF...

Like I said...

Most sales reps make companies look stupid.

Um OK
didnt mean to hurt your feelings..
Give me your address I will send you something nice.. LOL
I was just saying that you saying that if someone was actually a good sales rep they wouldnt need to be a rep...
There are alot of sides to running and operateing a complete webmaster program...
A lot more then you can do by your self I can pretty much guarentee you that...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-15-2004, 05:27 PM

Don't sweat it bro, your one of the good guys.
Hooper known me for a very long time he has my respect as a pro

I just given ya some love.
BTW...
Ya guys kill out that Chrismas banner yet?

Sly_RJ · 01-15-2004, 05:34 PM

No. I'm worthless. I should be fired now.

Sales reps do a lot more than you guys think. It's not all about sitting in front of the computer answering a question here and there. Preparing content, ordering banners, answering email, building long term relationships, building sites, scouting out domains and traffic, taking care of technical issues, turning technical answers into common understandable answers... need I go on?

If you personally have no use for a sales rep, fine. Don't use them. I'm willing to bet the other people who hit me up on a daily basis feel differently.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-15-2004, 05:39 PM

"Preparing content, ordering banners, answering email, building long term relationships, building sites, scouting out domains and traffic, taking care of technical issues, turning technical answers into common understandable answers... need I go on?"

Thats not sales with exception of "building long term relationships" and possibly "technical answers into common understandable answers" which is summarised with the term "Spin" control.

Your describing being a webmaster there bro, big big difference.

Sly_RJ · 01-15-2004, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
"Preparing content, ordering banners, answering email, building long term relationships, building sites, scouting out domains and traffic, taking care of technical issues, turning technical answers into common understandable answers... need I go on?"

Thats not sales with exception of "building long term relationships" and possibly "technical answers into common understandable answers" which is summarised with the term "Spin" control.

Your describing being a webmaster there bro, big big difference.

Most of the sales reps I know do a good chunk of the above. Cutting checks, dealing with payments, etc.

Digipimp · 01-15-2004, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Most of the sales reps I know do a good chunk of the above. Cutting checks, dealing with payments, etc.

No they don't. That's different, it's like I said it's funny how some big companies have like 2 reps and then the small shitty spammer companies have 10 who do nothing but suck dicks for traffic.

Everyone knows which one of those they fall in.

Sly_RJ · 01-15-2004, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp

No they don't. That's different, it's like I said it's funny how some big companies have like 2 reps and then the small shitty spammer companies have 10 who do nothing but suck dicks for traffic.

Everyone knows which one of those they fall in.

Not every company is like Orgasm Cash.

Wiseman · 01-15-2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Don't sweat it bro, your one of the good guys.
Hooper known me for a very long time he has my respect as a pro

I just given ya some love.
BTW...
Ya guys kill out that Chrismas banner yet?

Yea it is comeing..
I am haveing a little delay with the designer for with it!! (I have to take care of this to) =) it will be comeing and boy will it be a good one!!! =)

Digipimp · 01-15-2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Not every company is like Orgasm Cash.

Way too many of them are though unfortunately. But there are some quality people out there who are not just an average sales rep, but essentially know the biz, are webmasters themselves and rep for companies and do more.

Sly_RJ · 01-15-2004, 05:49 PM

Apparently I must work with the better companies. I know very few of the "cock sucking" companies. They don't impress me, never have. If I want my dick sucked I'll get a hooker.

Phoenix · 01-15-2004, 05:55 PM

yeah, i dont think you are fully appreciating what a "sales rep" brings to an organization. Of course they are needed, I work with many of my webmasters offering tips and help where i can. That is a valuable service which ,when used effectively will almost always result in a percentage increase in the webmasters earnings.

Some reps may come off the wrong way at times, but for the most part their dedication to one company is highly valuable.

It is hard to quantify the number of ways a company benefits from a professional helping to market their product.

01-15-2004, 02:27 PM	#1
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	Sales Reps Do You Need Them? The places you use and promote to make the most money do they have sales reps that you use or do you do it all on your own. Isn't a much better more organized site more helpful to you? Or do you find that the sales reps are a big help to you? Personally I pretty much avoid them at all costs most of the time, although there are a few that are really on top of things and can be a big help but they are in the minority. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

01-15-2004, 02:43 PM	#3
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Sales reps make companies look stupid online. Thats why ya see em jump from company to company. Sales rep is sort of an Irony. If they were any good at acual sales they wouldnt need to be a sales "Rep" dont ya think? __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-15-2004, 02:45 PM	#4
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	I wish with the money they spend on sales reps alot of these places would fix up their tours, add more content, fill out the member area and build a better more helpful affiliate site. It's also fun to see big quality programs with 2 sales reps and smaller shitty spammers with 8 hot girls probably all getting commission type pay and making almost nothing. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

01-15-2004, 02:54 PM	#5
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Not usually, but when I do, I usually need a technical answer, not a sales answer. I'm already sold on the sponsors I use, I need techie questions answered if anything at this point. WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-15-2004, 03:02 PM	#6
Tofu The Video Specialist Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 5,615	I LoVe Reps! I bend over backward for my webmasters, and they know I will do whatever to ensure that they get what they need to make money. Even if it means buggin the shit outta Lensman... __________________ tofu916 video services - tofu916.com twitter: tofu916 \| skype: tofu916 \| tel: 916-672-TOFU \| e: tofu # tofu916.com

01-15-2004, 02:41 PM	#2
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Not only do I not contact them, but I find them irritating when they contact me. I realise that their job is to generate traffic/sales, though, and for this reason I always try to be cordial. But guess what? If I am not sending traffic, I either dont like the results, or I haven't gotten to you just yet. Dunning me for hits is not a good way to get me to put up your links.

01-15-2004, 03:03 PM	#7
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	I use some of them. Some of them are so lazy its not even funny. __________________

01-15-2004, 03:17 PM	#8
dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	I'm a rep and proud of it. Wanta buy something? __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com

01-15-2004, 03:23 PM	#9
okny Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Vault Posts: 5,761	I think if you run an affiliate program you need sales rep's because there is only so much one person can do, plus webmasters always need something and in this case the sales rep can provide them with what they need. __________________ Aim: okny Icq: 306232 Skype: OlegKrasBT

01-15-2004, 03:29 PM	#10
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	I think much depends on the rep.... There was one, whose name I won't mention and is long gone..who never looked at my sites, wouldn't have known how to build or market a site if he fell over it...and all he wanted was my traffic....period... I've had several reps who really looked out for me and answered my questions.... I just wish these companies who have them would hire people who know webmastering to some degree....know marketing and sales....and not be so drunk or drugged in Vegas or elsewhere that they can't remember their own name, let alone mine.' There are uses for sales reps..or marketing reps....when a sponsor goes out of their way to pay for advertising, their reps should take the effort to post on the board and contribute...these newbies and even veterans do take note of those who are available and those who are only interested in partying in Vegas..... __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

01-15-2004, 03:38 PM	#11
wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	If you work smartly you really dont need much help to run an online business until your doing in excess of 10,000 a month. __________________ ThisWillShockYou.com DVD Store - TWSY UNCENSORED ICQ# 194020367 E-mail: shockingbucks(AT)gmail.com Promote something different!! Shocking Bucks

01-15-2004, 03:40 PM	#12
wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	On my worse day I will get 10,000 visits and I did that all on my own without the help of any team and I did not even have a computer 2 years ago, so If I could do it so can you. __________________ ThisWillShockYou.com DVD Store - TWSY UNCENSORED ICQ# 194020367 E-mail: shockingbucks(AT)gmail.com Promote something different!! Shocking Bucks

01-15-2004, 04:48 PM	#13
Chris E Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,895	They totally have their use!

01-15-2004, 04:59 PM	#14
Wiseman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,990	I am the only Rep we have over at Quickbuck and Conversioncash.. I mean Hooper helps people as well.... But we are both workaholics so we arent to hard to get ahold of... But Hooper is an asshole so noone really likes tyo work with him so thats where I come in!! But someone up above said that if a Sales rep was truly a good sales rep they wouldnt have to be a sales rep.... He is fucking IGNORANT!! Just because you are one hell of a rep doesnt mean you know or understand what all it takes to run a program... I handle 90% of the People to people sides of the buisness and Hooper handles all the technical side of shit.. If I had to fucking handle the programers and handle technical problems at 3 in the morning when shit went wrong our programs would not last!!! And if Hooper was the one to deal with all the clients when they had a problem our programs also would not last!! No one would use us!! You can only take someone with shitty people skills for so long.... =) __________________ []E-mail: [email protected][]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

01-15-2004, 05:01 PM	#15
XxXotic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Da Swamps Posts: 8,500	sales reps are definitely needed, but it seems that most of them in this business really dont know what theyre doing. Doesn't apply to all, but most. __________________ Sponsors.. Tired of people not using your shitty RSS Feeds? Let Us Help You! Oxeo - Serious Hosting For Serious Webmasters. iCQ:135.887013

01-15-2004, 05:15 PM	#16
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"He is fucking IGNORANT!! Just because you are one hell of a rep doesnt mean you know or understand what all it takes to run a program... " You call me ignorant then back peddle with a follow up statement that that is contradictory? If one does not know exactly what they are selling they ought not sell it! I run circles around sales rep's. Maybe some are good but MOST got no clue and confuse it with marketing while others believe they are an art director... Please save it bro, if you dont know what works in the field and exactly why it works then ya got no business selling it. Just my opinion, I aint saying you suck... I didint call you ignorant... But damn you just fucked your self calling a potential client Ignorant then looking stupid with a excuse that is contradictory for the reasons why! WTF... Like I said... Most sales reps make companies look stupid. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 01-15-2004 at 05:19 PM..

01-15-2004, 05:17 PM	#17
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	had several unpleasant experiences with them. at the same time, i think most companies can't do without them __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]

01-15-2004, 05:27 PM	#19
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Don't sweat it bro, your one of the good guys. Hooper known me for a very long time he has my respect as a pro I just given ya some love. BTW... Ya guys kill out that Chrismas banner yet? __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-15-2004, 05:34 PM	#20
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	No. I'm worthless. I should be fired now. Sales reps do a lot more than you guys think. It's not all about sitting in front of the computer answering a question here and there. Preparing content, ordering banners, answering email, building long term relationships, building sites, scouting out domains and traffic, taking care of technical issues, turning technical answers into common understandable answers... need I go on? If you personally have no use for a sales rep, fine. Don't use them. I'm willing to bet the other people who hit me up on a daily basis feel differently. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

01-15-2004, 05:39 PM	#21
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"Preparing content, ordering banners, answering email, building long term relationships, building sites, scouting out domains and traffic, taking care of technical issues, turning technical answers into common understandable answers... need I go on?" Thats not sales with exception of "building long term relationships" and possibly "technical answers into common understandable answers" which is summarised with the term "Spin" control. Your describing being a webmaster there bro, big big difference. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-15-2004, 05:49 PM	#27
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Apparently I must work with the better companies. I know very few of the "cock sucking" companies. They don't impress me, never have. If I want my dick sucked I'll get a hooker. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

01-15-2004, 05:55 PM	#28
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	yeah, i dont think you are fully appreciating what a "sales rep" brings to an organization. Of course they are needed, I work with many of my webmasters offering tips and help where i can. That is a valuable service which ,when used effectively will almost always result in a percentage increase in the webmasters earnings. Some reps may come off the wrong way at times, but for the most part their dedication to one company is highly valuable. It is hard to quantify the number of ways a company benefits from a professional helping to market their product. __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io