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Maximillion · 10-14-2003, 09:21 PM

I've noticed a big drop in conversions lately, has anyone else been experiencing this?

Maximillion · 10-14-2003, 09:31 PM

I know their sites sell good, has PK's biller (Paycom) been scrubbing more than usual?

MattO · 10-14-2003, 09:43 PM

Pornkings has been up for me lately... you should drop them a mail

FUCKuPAYme · 10-14-2003, 10:40 PM

conversions have gotten a little worse but they are still my number 1 sponsor cause my other sponsors also got worse.

I noticed it the past few days with all of them.

I would drop Roger at Pornkings.com an email or call them.
they always help

pimplink · 10-14-2003, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximillion
I've noticed a big drop in conversions lately, has anyone else been experiencing this?

hmmmm interesting. My mailer traffic converts at 1:40 - 1:75 range with them. Off course my database is synched and I do scrubs via scripts. Your results may vary.

FUCKuPAYme · 10-14-2003, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink

hmmmm interesting. My mailer traffic converts at 1:40 - 1:75 range with them. Off course my database is synched and I do scrubs via scripts. Your results may vary.

damn and I thought I was doing good. at 1/120-1/150

what program do you use of theirs?

drunkdollars · 10-14-2003, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink

Off course my database is synched and I do scrubs via scripts. Your results may vary.

Whats that mean?

FUCKuPAYme · 10-15-2003, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkdollars

Whats that mean?

I think he means he lets Surfers opt out.
keeps his list clean

Theo · 10-15-2003, 12:25 AM

Fatal mistake. I let them beg to opt out. A ROKSO listing is like a college diploma these days.

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximillion
I've noticed a big drop in conversions lately, has anyone else been experiencing this?

Maximillion
Your converting Overall with all your traffic this pay period 1/75 on first page hits.

Last pay period you converted at 1/58 overall first page hits.

It hasn't changed much?

Hit me up anytime so we can go over your traffic and maybe I can help you out. but with these numbers It might be tough

Tipsy · 10-15-2003, 02:44 PM

Just got a sale on one of their gay sites from a tiny trickle of traffic I send. I may have to start pushing them more

While we have pornkings attention I may as well grab him - I need to claim $100 for the 2 mill thing from you. Who to contact?

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Just got a sale on one of their gay sites from a tiny trickle of traffic I send. I may have to start pushing them more

While we have pornkings attention I may as well grab him - I need to claim $100 for the 2 mill thing from you. Who to contact?

the Gfy 2 mill post?

Shoot me an email Subject 2 mill [email protected]

Just a trickle of traffic and sale imagine how much you will make with all your traffic

Or call us for anything anytime. Your Part of the Pornkings Familia now

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 05:21 PM

A little bump for the cokewhores
http://www.cokewhores.com/defaultD.php

If your converting over 1/750 with Pornkings hit me up, if there is even such a thing.
[email protected]

Tipsy · 10-15-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

the Gfy 2 mill post?

Shoot me an email Subject 2 mill [email protected]

Just a trickle of traffic and sale imagine how much you will make with all your traffic

Or call us for anything anytime. Your Part of the Pornkings Familia now

Sent. Need to rethink where a lot of my gay traffic is going. May try sending a little more your way

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Sent. Need to rethink where a lot of my gay traffic is going. May try sending a little more your way

Sounds great if you want call me on 800-230-1255 tomorrow
to see what gay sites are converting the best

cool1g · 10-15-2003, 08:12 PM

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If your converting over 1/750 with Pornkings hit me up, if there is even such a thing.

0:1080 this period.....do i win a prize????

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WiredGuy · 10-15-2003, 08:14 PM

cool1g, what kind of traffic is that? Seems under 15% are clicking to the 2nd page, seems particularly low.

WG

ZoiNk · 10-15-2003, 08:15 PM

Wow, I think you should get a prize. But that will also make some ppl look twice at pornkings if that ratio is an oddity and not the norm like at some sponsors.
ZoiNk

cool1g · 10-15-2003, 08:22 PM

the Jungle Hair traffic was an experiment with buying traffic from sex.com and findwhat.com...

i had bought gallery spot for a 'hairy bush' gallery and did 2 sales on 675 first page....much better.

hence trying to send targeted PPC SE traffic....no idea why it did so bad...oh well...another experiment gone awry!

Theo · 10-15-2003, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

Maximillion
Your converting Overall with all your traffic this pay period 1/75 on first page hits.

and he complains?

dirtysouth · 10-15-2003, 08:24 PM

dirtysouth · 10-15-2003, 08:26 PM

Same traffic with the "Free Trial" program.

cool1g · 10-15-2003, 08:29 PM

WiredGuy - looks like DirtySouth's 2nd page click ratio is pretty similar to mine...

i always use first page clicks to compare unless the program doesn't provide that info.

10-15-2003, 08:30 PM

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Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool1g

0:1080 this period.....do i win a prize????

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That's not good whats your acount so I can see whats up.

The one thing about Pornkings is If you need help you can call me anytime.
I would like to go over the traffic and make sure you do well.

I'm sure I can help I've been running paysites for 7+ years and I want to see all our webmasters do well so I can earn all your traffic.

that site normally does well. but if I have to redo it I will

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 08:55 PM

I know our sites and the traffic out there inside out. Let me help you.

Give me a call and let me review what type of traffic you have or your buying and I'll tell you how to promote us and double what your making now.

Sharky · 10-15-2003, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

that site normally does well. but if I have to redo it I will

Hey Roger! I think I can help you out with that:-)

cheese · 10-15-2003, 08:58 PM

Don't know why i'm posting this.

last pay period with findwhat

current pay period with google

what a difference

i even sent the clicks from findwhat to the traffic-back program which pays 5 bucks less. With the consoles, it was a lot worse.
google rocks! porn kings rocks! findwhat can suck my ass!
most of findwhat's porn traffic comes from ultimate search's expired domains. Sometimes the search listings are listed on the root page without the surfer even searching. It's like paying 8-10 cents a click for 404 traffic.
The google numbers are nuts though

Pornkings · 10-15-2003, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth

Depends on your traffic what sites and Program you should use.

Don't let the payouts fool you. Give me a call and I'll make you money. email, ICQ, AIM whatever I'm If I'm not sleeping I'm looking at numbers.

ICQ:161759738
AIM: Pkings247
[email protected]
800-230-1255

WiredGuy · 10-15-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheese
google rocks! porn kings rocks! findwhat can suck my ass!
most of findwhat's porn traffic comes from ultimate search's expired domains. Sometimes the search listings are listed on the root page without the surfer even searching. It's like paying 8-10 cents a click for 404 traffic.
The google numbers are nuts though

While that's true, Findwhat you can usually acquire at 1-2c (if you got grandfathered) so it works out being about the same ROI even though Findwhat's traffic quality isn't as good.

WG

FUCKuPAYme · 10-15-2003, 10:10 PM

they are my number one sponsor but damn some of you are getting awsome conversions.

Porn4aBuck kicks ass

It takes more then 1000 hits to get a good gauge

the next 1000 might get 4 sales i would test sponsors with about 3k now and days to get a good idea.

Penthouse_mike · 10-15-2003, 10:40 PM

I promoted PK for a bit.
my numbers were seriously out of tune with stats posted here.

I forget the login. my company name is GMCI Internet Operations, Inc.

cool1g · 10-15-2003, 10:47 PM

I just chatted with Roger for a while by phone - while we didn't come up with a good reason for my poor conversion ratios i did come away with some things to change and tweak that will hopefully help. Well see in a couple of weeks.

Maximillion · 10-16-2003, 12:14 AM

Roger any plans for referrer stats? Get with the times bro!

Fred Zeppelin · 10-16-2003, 03:51 AM

Wow!
A real thread on GFY dealing with real webmasters concerns.

Thanks to all that have participated

Tipsy · 10-16-2003, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheese

what a difference i even sent the clicks from findwhat to the traffic-back program which pays 5 bucks less. With the consoles, it was a lot worse.
google rocks! porn kings rocks! findwhat can suck my ass!
most of findwhat's porn traffic comes from ultimate search's expired domains. Sometimes the search listings are listed on the root page without the surfer even searching. It's like paying 8-10 cents a click for 404 traffic.
The google numbers are nuts though

I'm curious - if that's google adwords traffic how do you get around the dialler popup on pornkings or is that just non-US people that pops up for?

Tipsy · 10-16-2003, 08:27 AM

cheese · 10-16-2003, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

I'm curious - if that's google adwords traffic how do you get around the dialler popup on pornkings or is that just non-US people that pops up for?

That's not my adwords stats, but i did use adwords for a little bit and sent it to a porn kings f.p.a. It did o.k, but i couldn't keep the ctr min which i think now is 1%. The prod. was awesome. I couldn't send that much traffic 'cause of the ctr, but the clicks i got clicked on an avg of 5 sites. Then later they suspended my ad because of the country chicks site even though adwords is full of those non beast farm type sites. whatever

Adwords was just a pain in the ass for me. I would get like 2 e-mails a day bitching about something.
It's ashame I can't multiply the little traffic i send them. I tried with a few ppc, but conversion fell hard.
btw, it's not a dialer, it's just some toolbar/adware thing. I hate it and think it's some real nasty software, but the sites still seem to convert with most traffic.

Tipsy · 10-16-2003, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheese

btw, it's not a dialer, it's just some toolbar/adware thing. I hate it and think it's some real nasty software, but the sites still seem to convert with most traffic.

Thanks - that's worth knowing. I make a habit of never letting stuff like that install so wasn't sure. Looked like a dialler though

Still - if you're not going to shave people I suppose you gotta make the money somehow. Amazing how many people will bitch about something like that but still expect $25+ payouts

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximillion
Roger any plans for referrer stats? Get with the times bro!

If you think it helps I will look into getting them up. for you

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Thanks - that's worth knowing. I make a habit of never letting stuff like that install so wasn't sure. Looked like a dialler though
Still - if you're not going to shave people I suppose you gotta make the money somehow. Amazing how many people will bitch about something like that but still expect $25+ payouts

At least someone understands

It does not effect the sale trust me if it did I would remove it asap. I tested it many times to be certain.

But if it does make it difficult to get listed on SE then let me know and I can remove them. the more info I have from webmasters the better.

We pay $25 on a trial for a month so you can imagine how many cancel before they become a full member.
the box is for our one way messanger so we can advertise to them later without having to email.

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penthouse_mike
I promoted PK for a bit.
my numbers were seriously out of tune with stats posted here.

I forget the login. my company name is GMCI Internet Operations, Inc.

Mike whats your ICQ or aim?

EZRhino · 10-16-2003, 11:38 AM

FUCKuPAYme · 10-16-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
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Not kewl
Have you sent them traffic

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FUCKuPAYme

Not kewl
Have you sent them traffic

No shit..
I don't mind webmasters who complain who actually tried us out.

As you can see there is not to many. because this could have been alot worse considering it's GFY

but if you are not doing well hit me up so i can help

cool1g · 10-16-2003, 03:42 PM

thanks to Roger this looks a lot better

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 03:44 PM

Because of the number of webmasters who just signed up and wanted the One way messanger removed from the sites.

I'm going to remove it today from all the sites. and just put a banner up so its not as aggresive even though I know it doesn't effect sales. Webmasters are my first priority.

Pornkings · 10-16-2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool1g
thanks to Roger this looks a lot better

And we were on for what? about a half hour. In my eyes well worth it. and thank god you got a sale that fast. LMAO
I didn't expect you to switch it so fast and see the results this fast

Hopefully it continues

serious · 10-16-2003, 04:30 PM

why not just remove all the forced downloads on affiliate links and keep them on the main website.

did you remove just the messanger thing, and is the toolbar and favorites thing still there?

i visisted one of your sites yesterday and noticed several things being installed, then i was being hit with popup ads from the programs every couple of minutes, then one of the programs was giving me an error, i was quite amazed actually.

actually the most annoying thing was that it messed up my toolbar configuration in ie, ad aware took care of the rest.

it's hard to believe all that junk doesn't affect conversions, but i don't doubt you.

Pornkings · 10-17-2003, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious
why not just remove all the forced downloads on affiliate links and keep them on the main website.

did you remove just the messanger thing, and is the toolbar and favorites thing still there?

i visisted one of your sites yesterday and noticed several things being installed, then i was being hit with popup ads from the programs every couple of minutes, then one of the programs was giving me an error, i was quite amazed actually.

actually the most annoying thing was that it messed up my toolbar configuration in ie, ad aware took care of the rest.

it's hard to believe all that junk doesn't affect conversions, but i don't doubt you.

I am removing the forced download.

Now send me your traffic

10-14-2003, 09:21 PM	#1
Maximillion Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: scrooge mcducks money bin Posts: 795	Pornkings sales I've noticed a big drop in conversions lately, has anyone else been experiencing this? __________________ Only $600 bucks for this premium domain: email maximillion76 -at- gmail (Not to be confused with Topbucks' "AllGayRealityPass.com")

10-14-2003, 09:31 PM	#2
Maximillion Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: scrooge mcducks money bin Posts: 795	I know their sites sell good, has PK's biller (Paycom) been scrubbing more than usual? __________________ Only $600 bucks for this premium domain: email maximillion76 -at- gmail (Not to be confused with Topbucks' "AllGayRealityPass.com")

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FUCKuPAYme Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: LA Posts: 1,023	conversions have gotten a little worse but they are still my number 1 sponsor cause my other sponsors also got worse. I noticed it the past few days with all of them. I would drop Roger at Pornkings.com an email or call them. they always help __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-15-2003, 02:44 PM	#11
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Just got a sale on one of their gay sites from a tiny trickle of traffic I send. I may have to start pushing them more While we have pornkings attention I may as well grab him - I need to claim $100 for the 2 mill thing from you. Who to contact? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

10-15-2003, 05:21 PM	#13
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	A little bump for the cokewhores http://www.cokewhores.com/defaultD.php If your converting over 1/750 with Pornkings hit me up, if there is even such a thing. [email protected] __________________ Pornkings.com

10-14-2003, 09:43 PM	#3
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	Pornkings has been up for me lately... you should drop them a mail

10-15-2003, 12:25 AM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Fatal mistake. I let them beg to opt out. A ROKSO listing is like a college diploma these days.

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,484	cool1g, what kind of traffic is that? Seems under 15% are clicking to the 2nd page, seems particularly low. WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-15-2003, 08:15 PM	#18
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	Wow, I think you should get a prize. But that will also make some ppl look twice at pornkings if that ratio is an oddity and not the norm like at some sponsors. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

10-15-2003, 08:22 PM	#19
cool1g Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hollyweird adjacent Posts: 977	the Jungle Hair traffic was an experiment with buying traffic from sex.com and findwhat.com... i had bought gallery spot for a 'hairy bush' gallery and did 2 sales on 675 first page....much better. hence trying to send targeted PPC SE traffic....no idea why it did so bad...oh well...another experiment gone awry!

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dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Same traffic with the "Free Trial" program. __________________ no sig

10-15-2003, 08:29 PM	#23
cool1g Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hollyweird adjacent Posts: 977	WiredGuy - looks like DirtySouth's 2nd page click ratio is pretty similar to mine... i always use first page clicks to compare unless the program doesn't provide that info.

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10-15-2003, 08:55 PM	#26
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	I know our sites and the traffic out there inside out. Let me help you. Give me a call and let me review what type of traffic you have or your buying and I'll tell you how to promote us and double what your making now. __________________ Pornkings.com

10-15-2003, 08:58 PM	#28
cheese Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 239	Don't know why i'm posting this. last pay period with findwhat current pay period with google what a difference i even sent the clicks from findwhat to the traffic-back program which pays 5 bucks less. With the consoles, it was a lot worse. google rocks! porn kings rocks! findwhat can suck my ass! most of findwhat's porn traffic comes from ultimate search's expired domains. Sometimes the search listings are listed on the root page without the surfer even searching. It's like paying 8-10 cents a click for 404 traffic. The google numbers are nuts though

10-15-2003, 10:10 PM	#31
FUCKuPAYme Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: LA Posts: 1,023	they are my number one sponsor but damn some of you are getting awsome conversions. Porn4aBuck kicks ass It takes more then 1000 hits to get a good gauge the next 1000 might get 4 sales i would test sponsors with about 3k now and days to get a good idea. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Penthouse_mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 317	I promoted PK for a bit. my numbers were seriously out of tune with stats posted here. I forget the login. my company name is GMCI Internet Operations, Inc. Last edited by Penthouse_mike; 10-15-2003 at 10:49 PM..

10-15-2003, 10:47 PM	#33
cool1g Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hollyweird adjacent Posts: 977	I just chatted with Roger for a while by phone - while we didn't come up with a good reason for my poor conversion ratios i did come away with some things to change and tweak that will hopefully help. Well see in a couple of weeks.

10-16-2003, 12:14 AM	#34
Maximillion Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: scrooge mcducks money bin Posts: 795	Roger any plans for referrer stats? Get with the times bro!

10-16-2003, 03:51 AM	#35
Fred Zeppelin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: USA Posts: 209	Wow! A real thread on GFY dealing with real webmasters concerns. Thanks to all that have participated

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10-16-2003, 03:42 PM	#46
cool1g Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hollyweird adjacent Posts: 977	thanks to Roger this looks a lot better

10-16-2003, 03:44 PM	#47
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	Because of the number of webmasters who just signed up and wanted the One way messanger removed from the sites. I'm going to remove it today from all the sites. and just put a banner up so its not as aggresive even though I know it doesn't effect sales. Webmasters are my first priority. __________________ Pornkings.com

10-16-2003, 04:30 PM	#49
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	why not just remove all the forced downloads on affiliate links and keep them on the main website. did you remove just the messanger thing, and is the toolbar and favorites thing still there? i visisted one of your sites yesterday and noticed several things being installed, then i was being hit with popup ads from the programs every couple of minutes, then one of the programs was giving me an error, i was quite amazed actually. actually the most annoying thing was that it messed up my toolbar configuration in ie, ad aware took care of the rest. it's hard to believe all that junk doesn't affect conversions, but i don't doubt you. __________________ new search